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Thursday, January 27, 2011

Gracedale: The Threats Begin

At the anonymous hate blog sponsored by the Gracedale Goons, the menacing remarks have now begun.
Time To Take The Gloves Off
The Tyrant got tired of all the lefts so he took off his gloves, he's now begging for a right...and he will get it, along with some other combinations. Unfortunately for him, we will take our gloves off too, and we are more effective without the them.
Posted by Save Gracedale at 8:58 AM
You know, God is on their side. If this is what they're writing, what are they saying? Angle has been warned, and a link to their post has been forwarded to the Sheriff.
Updated 9:51 AM: I thought that all this "incivility" only comes from right-wing maniacs. Isn't that what Dem Party Bossman Walt Garvin and Gloria McVeigh were trying to tell Bethlehem City Council?

54 comments:

Sanctifying Grace said...

Bernie,

Has it ever been established who the author or contributors of that blog may be?

These authors/contributors do not speak for the all of people. I don't think they realize how many people, their behavior are turning off and away from supporting and keeping Gracedale in the County's hands. That blog is truly marginalizing themselves as fanatics.

Again, they do not speak for all of the people.

Peace, ~~~alex+

Bernie O'Hare said...

I do believe that the Fake Rev, Mario Martinez, is the author or is very familiar with the author.

* Whenever he takes a picture, it appears there within hours.

* He is the only person identified as the author of several posts.

* When he makes a statement to Council, it is reported there verbatim, with the same syntax and style used at Council meetings.

But maybe the author is Jesus.

Sanctifying Grace said...

Bernie,

The author is not Divinely inspired. And the author isn't Jesus!

I just can't believe that such a thing would escalate into such behavior, especially in today's atmosphere of being charged and aware of any type of threatening behavior.

I pray for conversions.


Peace, ~~~alex+

Anonymous said...

oh please ..... surely you jest ...

Sanctifying Grace said...

Why would anyone minimize such behavior? God forbid, anything happens. Doesn't one have a right to feel safe?

Why even make a threat at all? What is its purpose?

So instead, I am the one with the problem? Not the person who is exhibiting threatening behavior? Is that correct?


Peace be with you, ~~~alex+

Bernie O'Hare said...

That's the way they roll, Fr. Alex. For pointing out their wrongdoing - whether it is cursing in front of scouts, threatening remarks or the illegal circulation of campaign material - you will be knocked around.

Anonymous said...

you can't be serious ... this is just posturing and gloating and you know it .. nobody threatned you ..

Bernie O'Hare said...

I was not threatened, but the language of violence was just used to try to intimidate an elected official.

"he's now begging for a right...and he will get it, along with some other combinations"

I have seen your group ignore the law with impunity, from circulating election petitions for partisan candidates on county grounds to cursing in front of kids. It's only prudent to be concerned about your next move, especially when you start making threatening remarks.

Monkey Momma said...

"...and he will get it, along with some other combinations. Unfortunately for him, we will take our gloves off too, and we are more effective without the them."

Anon 10:45: The above isn't threatening?! There is no other way to interpret it! And it's not a comment - it's an actual blog post. A short, to the point, blog post that clearly threatens O'Hare.

The entire SPG blog smacks of insanity, quite frankly. The writer really does think God is on his side! The rambling rhetoric is over the top, contradictive, and unnecessarily combative. Whomever is writing this certainly cannot contribute to a serious, productive discussion on the matter. I think it's entirely appropriate that link was forwarded to the sheriff.

For folks that support keeping Gracedale in county hands, I would highly recommend finding a different leader. The cause is certainly worthy in the eyes of many, but not the guy writing SPG.

Anonymous said...

Angle has made many threats himself, and no one is running the Sheriff.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/northampton-county/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/128901633258280.xml&coll=3

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1239854711316610.xml&coll=3


It is clear Angle makes threats because he thinks it will get things done. I guess it is only ok if he does it!!

How is by saying "he is asking for a right" a threat? A right what? Turn, wing,answer,solution?

And other combination....what combination, a meal combo from McDonalds? Many things come in many combination's. Let's not try to make this something it is not.

Sanctifying Grace said...

Anon 11:15 am,

I never insulted your intelligence, please don't insult mine.

Peace, ~~~alex+

Bernie O'Hare said...

Your first link is a threat by Angle to step down as Council Prez. Your second link is a threat by Angle to sue the casino board.

Neither of these contains the language of violence or can be perceived in any way as a physical threat against anyone. Your analogy is nonsensical.

The blog posted on that hate site is an obvious reference to violence and is directed at Angle. As Monkey Momma points out, the entire blog smacks of insanity. Putting it in the best possible light for you, it is a poor choice of words.

Anonymous said...

I prefer not to go to the "other" blog, as I believe the fake rev is no better that the fake Fr Alex.

I think you are trying to make more of something than what it is.

Bernie O'Hare said...

I think you are trying to minimize their bad behavior, and insult someone who actually is in a seminary.

Sanctifying Grace said...

Anon 11:34 AM,

Thank you for the compliment.

I am just a lowly servant. No better than anyone else.

Pray for me, please. Be assured of my prayers for you.

Peace be with you, ~~~alex+

PippySqueek said...

That group kind of brings to mind the statement Gandhi made:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."

Makes you wonder if they have even picked up a bible, let alone read one.

Anonymous said...

No prayers needed, I merely heard a boxing reference. Bernie calls it a threat for a blog topic.

Anonymous said...

Severson's threatening to stab people in church. Kanjorski calls for gubernatorial candidates to be shot. The lefty reverend with vending machine credentials calls for operating outside the bounds of fairness and legality in a thinly veiled, grammatically challenged threat. With compassion like this ....

Anonymous said...

I think this is a threat and the person who said should be jailed

"You bring a knife to the fight
I'll bring a gun"

Didn't Obama say that?

then we have according to Ron

"no "colored" guy will be president for 50 years because of Obama"

as stated on Business Matters


the term

PIECE OF WORK
comes to mind with that statement



see everyone says dumb stuff

some say more dumb stuff than others

Anonymous said...

Not sure what is worse, a fake rev or a disbarred drunk, i would take the Rev.

Bernie O'Hare said...

No doubt you would.

Anonymous said...

Bernie, the truth is that these people, at the first drop of real fisticuffs, are the ones who would say, i'll sue, cry, or run for the police...

It is quite amusing however...and far from threatening...

This 28 year old Irishman has your back!

Anonymous said...

If the fake rev and his ilk want a fight from me, they'll surely get one. I'll show up and vote with all of the same people who clubbed this faker and his band of thugs at the ballot box. That's how we roll.

Anonymous said...

The only person who tried to bring a gun to a meeting was Angle. He tried to bring it to a Mt. Bethel meeting to intimidate the late Ivan Nusic. The local police chief convinced Angle that he was being a stupid ass again and to not wear his gun.

The only ignorant people here are Angle and O'Hare.

The so-called threats are one of the many delusions of O'Hare alcohol riddled brain.

Angle and O'Hare, you are the perfect couple. Crazy and crazier.

Maybe Father Alex would do better to pray for himself as a frequent contributor to the rancor in this hate blog. No one else wants this pretend priest's prayers.

Bill Coker said...

It is amazing to me how many "brave, moralistic, god driven" souls hide behind the anonymous symbol. Obviously, most sane people can look at Bernie as a successful recovering alcoholic and admire his willingness to admit his weakness and overcome it.
As a guy with similar problems, I admire him. I, too, have problems with Ron Angles' outspokeness, but generally he is correct in his assumptions as far as county dealings go. His personal dealings I have a problem with.

Now to the point, these "save Gracedale" advocates leave something to be desired in the fact department, but are strong in the bullshit department.

Sanctifying Grace said...

Anon 8:51 PM,

Thank you. But may I ask you a few questions? (I wish I knew your name - therefore, I could give you the proper dignity that you deserve by addressing you by name.) Since I can't contact you directly, I'll just post them here:

How do you know whether or not, "No one else wants this pretend priest's prayers."? And when you reference "the pretend priest," I'll assume that you are talking about me...

It is funny how this keeps happening - claiming to speak for the masses/people/majority, again.

Because, last time someone claimed to be representing the masses (and representing them anonymously), we ended up here. I would hate for this to escalate any further.

Therefore, I ask for your prayers. Be assured of mine.

Peace be with you, ~~~alex+

Bill Coker said...

Sanctifying Grace,

Cut the holier than thou act. What is your name.

Mine is Bill Coker, 21 West Center, Nazareth....check an publice records available to anyone, even you.

Bernie O'Hare said...

Bill, You forgot to tell everyone how great we are in baseball.

Folks, as a matter of full disclosure, Bill's grandsons introduced my grandson to baseball about 6 years ago. And football. And basketball. And manhunt. And pickle.

Wayne said...

Why on earth are you attacking Alex?

Anon 8:51 is the one that's way off base here.

I suggest you take the time to examine the personalities here and not rush to snap judgments.

We really need to sell programs with the list of characters defined.

Sanctifying Grace said...

Mr. Coker,

My name is Alex Joseph. I am a Catholic Seminarian. I sign my posts. And if you click on the Sanctifying Grace link, you'll be directed to my blogger page.

I am a former Northampton County parole officer, a former Northampton County D.R.S. employee, a former barber at Gracedale, and was partners in a privately owed barbershop.

Since you seem to be friends with Mr. O'Hare, please feel free to speak to Bernie about me. I have nothing to hide.

If you don't like how I write, I am sorry. But this is a real person and this is really how I live my life. Sorry if I don't meet your expectations. But I will still pray for you.

Peace be with you, ~~~alex+

Sanctifying Grace said...

Thank you Mr. Wayne.

Peace, ~~~alex+

Bernie O'Hare said...

Fr. Alex, I think BillC had you mixed up with the Fake Rev.

Sanctifying Grace said...

Bernie,

No worries. The shoes fit... I'm not even a priest, yet.

Peace, ~~~alex+

Anonymous said...

Bern

you know I'm with you on the larger issue. I read the offending post, and it's really nothing more than hyperbole. the "take the gloves off" metaphor is no worse than Ron's own "i'm here to stack bodybags" statement of several years ago.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Bernie O'Hare said...

OT rants,especially when directed at a reader, will be deleted.

Anonymous said...

Alex, when will you be ordained? And why does it take so long? With numbers down, they should streamline the process, perhaps. You're in my prayers. Best to you.

Anonymous said...

Cookies Comb
Remember that song
I sent someone the 45
And he must have had a cup of Nilap Tea and listened to it
The world thanks you

Sanctifying Grace said...

Anon 1:27 PM,

Thank you.

Closing out my fourth year. Anywhere from 4 to 8 years. It takes time ...


Peace, ~~~alex+

Bill said...

Bernie,

Thanks for trying to cover my ass but I did not have Sanctifying Grace mixed up the fake rev. The walking on water pic, the holy roller verbage with the peace to you's....I'm sorry this seems pretty fake to me. I realize I'm an old fart and perhaps don't understand the NEW way but bullshit is bullshit in my book.

Bill said...

Bernie,

Thanks for trying to cover my ass but I did not have Sanctifying Grace mixed up the fake rev. The walking on water pic, the holy roller verbage with the peace to you's....I'm sorry this seems pretty fake to me. I realize I'm an old fart and perhaps don't understand the NEW way but bullshit is bullshit in my book.

Bill said...

Bernie,

Thanks for trying to cover my ass but I did not have Sanctifying Grace mixed up the fake rev. The walking on water pic, the holy roller verbage with the peace to you's....I'm sorry this seems pretty fake to me. I realize I'm an old fart and perhaps don't understand the NEW way but bullshit is bullshit in my book.

Bill Coker said...

The previous post should be from Bill Coker. Sorry, screwed up and hit enter instead of shift.

Bill Coker said...

Sanctifying Grace,

Seems like you can't keep a job. Priests don't get fired, just transferred. Correct?

Bill

Third Baseman said...

Your name is Bill. Just not Bill Coker. Give it up before you start to get yourself in more trouble.

Bill Coker said...

Third baseman,

What?

Bill Coker said...

Third baseman and any other anons out there, my name and adress is posted. If you had balls to back you up, yours would be too.

Anonymous said...
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Sanctifying Grace said...

Mr. Bill Coker,

Thank you for your concerns and compliments.

Please feel free to email me with your concerns regarding how I have harmed you or this topic, if you would like. My email address can be found on my blogger page. Just click on the Sanctifying Grace moniker and you'll be directed to my blogger page.

Peace, ~~~alex+

Sanctifying Grace said...

Anon 1:47 AM,

Thank you for the biography on myself, 3 days after the origination of this post and at almost 2 in the morning. It is greatly appreciated. It will help others to more readily identify me. Thanks for all of your assistance.

Peace, ~~~alex+

Anonymous said...

All Rev's are fake. Some just have the paper to legally beg for money.

Anonymous said...

What seminary did Jesus attend?

Anonymous said...

Bernie, it is taking you WAYYYYYYYYY to long to respond to the BIG news that the election committee changed it's mind.


Your silence is DEAFENING!!!!!!!!!!

Bernie O'Hare said...

I responded. Learn to read.