The first unknown is turnout. Hillary's supporters are far less enthused about her than they were for Obama. She will receive a larger number of Latino votes, but fewer black votes. What she has going for her is a great ground game, while The Donald is pretty much relying on the Republican party.
The second unknown is the resentment over rising Obamacare premiums. I have spoken to several people who have just received word that their rates are going to double. I doubt very much they will vote for Clinton.
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It is not just the Obamacare premiums, although they get the most media attention. I work for a very large computer company as a field engineer, which means that I am the one that comes out to repair the hardware when a disk drive fails, you need a fiber optic cable installed, that kind of thing. Ever since the Obamacare debate began in 2010, our company has provided to us very good health insurance at reasonable prices. Yes, we'd see small increases each year, but then, everything goes up in price each year.
This year, our company is in the middle of a merger, and when we received our benefit package for 2017 last month to sign up for, the entire health care part has been totally re-done. We now have the choice of bronze, silver, gold, and platinum policies. The plan I had for 2017 equates to the gold plan, and the monthly premium has doubled. Most of us think this is the first step, that the new organization will simply drop the plan in 2018 and move us to Obamacare and have us sign up on the exchange. Then we'll have to deal with the $10,000 or more deductible with a huge price increase again.
It's safe to say that I'm not going to vote for someone to fix this.
Obamacare rates. Overhead family saying their rates will be $2,000. per month.
My company just dropped our coverage and sent everyone to the exchange. My monthly premium has doubled. I'm pissed and I'm voting in 45 minutes.
Bethlehem Twp has it's own version of "BridgeGate" as Hecktown Rd is closed between Green Pond Rd and Oakland Rd. 2 polling places within 1/2 mile of each other, coincidence?
Massive voter turnout at my Lower Saucon site! Arrived 20 minutes before polls opened and found about 35 already in line. After voting, the line waiting looked to be about 75-100. Normal line at opening at this site is about 10.
I voted for Trump.
In 1781, after the British were defeated at the Battle of Yorktown and the Americans won the Revolutionary War, the British played the song, "The World Turned Upside Down".
The lines at the polls today are long. People are coming out to vote in numbers not seen for decades. If people are going to wait in the polls for a long time to cast their ballot, I strongly suspect they aren't standing in line to vote for Hillary. She just doesn't generate that level of enthusiasm
At the ehd of the day, the news media will be wondering what happened to their world, that got turned upside down by the American Voter.
"Bethlehem Twp has it's own version of "BridgeGate" as Hecktown Rd is closed between Green Pond Rd and Oakland Rd. 2 polling places within 1/2 mile of each other, coincidence?"
PennDOT has the roadway closed for scheduled repairs. Local residence who live and vote in the area might be slightly inconvenienced, but I'm sure they all know ways to get around the closure.
Turnout is high here in Hanover. Hard to say what that means.
If mommy lives it Trevorton pa. can she vote in the 183rd or does she have to vote where she lives. shenanigans ...maybe?
Turnout extremely high at the open 7am in Allentown. Higher than I have seen it in the 3 presidential elections I have voted for while living in Allentown. I usually vote at the open so I can compare this accurately.
Obama's gas prices are being rammed down our throats....oh wait...never mind.
Obamacare is for people without employer-based healthcare coverage first of all. Previous to Obamacare, these people had no coverage. IF the Republicans would have allowed the "public option", this would have never happened. The insurance companies, which we mistakenly left in place, have no interest in low rates. They see little reason to not make as much profit as possible. The only person that will actually fix the problems causing these pricing issues (and actually, the pricing is pretty much as forecasted) is Hillary Clinton who understands the small changes needed to fix the exchanges. Trump would eliminate the exchanges and would remove insurance for those who have it.
Remember as well that Obamacare gave us things people will not want to give up: no lifetime caps, no ban on preexisting conditions, free examinations, family coverage for children to age 26.
My company just dropped our coverage and sent everyone to the exchange. My monthly premium has doubled. I'm pissed and I'm voting in 45 minutes.
Your pissed at the Democrats for your company dropping their plan? You have misplaced anger.
I strongly suspect they aren't standing in line to vote for Hillary
Yes, they are there to vote AGAINST Trump.
And the first female President doesn't hurt.
Turnout is high here in Hanover. Hard to say what that means.
High turnout ALWAYS favors the Democrat.
Wow, somebody seems to have an awful lot of emotional energy invested in Hillary's Grand Coronation! Vote early and vote often. It's the Democrat way.
Merkin Muffley you are correct.
However, you are trying to educate and appeal to the people's intellect and what you don't understand is that people are not motivated by reason, people are motivated by the careful manipulation of emotion. They're dumb and providing them with healthcare is counter productive, give them free chew and cigarettes, beer and nascar fumes, and keep your fingers crossed that works.
What is going to happen tomorrow is a total meltdown by the Democrats and a nearly 100% hostile media environment.
I was in a very, very long line at our little polling station. Normally I'll walk in, vote and be out of the poll within 15-20 minutes. It took well over 90 minutes today.
There is an extremely high turnover Mr Muffley. However, they aren't voting for Hillary. My faith in America has been re-affirmed by what I saw today. I'm very proud of my country.
Mr O'Hare.
You wrote about the SEPTA strike in Philadelphia the other day. The strike was resolved but there have been bad stories about public transit down there so I believe that many Philadelphia voters won't know the strike is over. They're not happy about the buses especially. If they do ride, many people have a lot of pent up errands to run. Also, many people who live in Center City especially have had have to work a lot of overtime to make up for those that live in the suburbs that have not been able to get to work.
This isn't the first time that there's been a strike, and SEPTA says they will be 100% tomorrow, but I don't think so. In the past, many union members are slow to return to work after a week long strike due to hold outs & hard feelings. Don't be so sure that the turnout today will be the same as it was for Obama.
Not a single R voted for the pickpocketing that is Obamacare. Not one. Democrats own Obamacare. Anger at Democrats over skyrocketing premiums and soaring deductibles is perfectly placed. Again, not a single R in either chamber voted for it. They weren't even permitted to offer amendments, thanks to Pelosi and Reid. Insurance companies got a sweet deal from Dems and they'll get a bailout if Dems win. We were told 26 times by Obama that we could keep our plans. He earned four Pinocchios for his lies. Now, it's time to make Hillary pay for her unabashed support of it.
Let me take a few moments to explain what is happening today. This is an election that does not fit the normal expectations of the political pundits. What we are seeing today is in fact, a rejection of what we have experienced for the past decade or so by the voters. Today, in a real sense is a Howard Beale moment by the American people. We're mad as hell, and we're just not going to take it any more.
Hillary made a large mistake thinking that she could ride Bill's popularity into the White House. Hillary, quite simply, is not Bill Clinton. Unless you're a die-hard Democrat, no one really likes her. Despite his scandalous behavior, Bill has a warm side that you can sense he emphasizes with people who are in trouble or not well off. That's why even when he was being impeached and afterwards, people did like and support him. That's not what you get with Hillary.
People just don't like her and it's not just what we hear during this election cycle, but it is the stories about her we've heard over the years have that have just not been nice. The stories about how she is with people that worked in the White House every day when Bill was president. Hillary is quite different and doesn't have that warmth that Bill has. She's a very angry person also with the stories about the lamp throwing, the disparagement of secret service and the military aides that were in the White House.
That's a big reason that despite Trump being the way he is with women, Hillary is just not registering with the American people the way Bill did. She puts on the smile for the public, but behind that smile you can sense that she is cold, calculating and interested in money and power; not the people. It's not the negative feelings about Trump that are bringing people to the polls today, it's the negative feelings about HER.
Just look at how ugly her campaign commercials have been as well. We've all seen them. It's been a long advertising campaign in the most negative fashion I can imagine. I work in advertising. For example, if you setting up a campaign to sell Fords, you don't advertise how horrible a Chevrolet is to get people to buy Fords. You try to convince the buyers who are in the market for a car to make your product appear to be the best on the market and how it will make your life better. Not how bad your competition is and say if you buy the Chevrolet you're going to die in a car crash because they make horrible cars and show the films you saw in driver training of people dead in crashes.
Frankly, when it comes to scandals and sleazy behavior, no one outdoes a Clinton. Just drag a dollar though a trailer park and look what you come up with.
There is an extremely high turnover Mr Muffley. However, they aren't voting for Hillary. My faith in America has been re-affirmed by what I saw today. I'm very proud of my country.
High voter turnout ALWAYS favors the Democratic party. The Democratic party far outweighs Republicans in voter registration. This is politics 101.
Not a single R voted for the pickpocketing that is Obamacare. Not one. Democrats own Obamacare. Anger at Democrats over skyrocketing premiums and soaring deductibles is perfectly placed. Again, not a single R in either chamber voted for it. They weren't even permitted to offer amendments, thanks to Pelosi and Reid. Insurance companies got a sweet deal from Dems and they'll get a bailout if Dems win. We were told 26 times by Obama that we could keep our plans. He earned four Pinocchios for his lies. Now, it's time to make Hillary pay for her unabashed support of it.
Valid point. But the only people voting against it are people who actually USE it which is less than 20% of Americans.
Impressive turnout this morning at Bartholomew House in City of Bethlehem. Substantially longer line than 2012 election. Regardless of outcome, it's good to see the electorate participating en mass.
Anonymous... I lived in Center City Philadelphia right after college. I didn't make a lot of money and rent was expensive. I walked a lot to work and rode the busses a great deal back then. Even as a newlywed, we were trying to save up money and neither my husband or I had a car. My monthly TransPass was how I got around. Life is better now, but I remember those days very well, thank you
You can believe what you want if it makes you feel better Mr Muffley. You're in for a makeup in the morning. And I was the Anonymous at 10:16, I hit the wrong button before I clicked on the not a robot box by mistake
Here's the problem, Mr. Muffley. 2016 is not a typical election year. The Republicans have their strongest candidate in decades. The general public despises the biased, corporate media. The internet makes information readily available. Obama has proven to be a lousy President and Clinton was a KEY player in his failures around the world.
Anti-establishment politician sentiment is HIGH, and Trump has never been an elected politician. People LIKE an underdog! Do not take comfort in past patterns.
:) guys. Unlike Democrats who are stuck on the public assistance wagon, some of us do have upwards mobility in life. I also used to work at Saylors at 19th & Tilghman as a waitress before college when I was going to William Allen.
Just because you're stuck in your parent's basements doesn't mean I had to live my entire life in a one-bedroom apartment.
The simple fact is...
the MAJORITY of citizens eligible to vote DON'T.
Some don't care because they know this country was bought and sold long before they were ever born, the shit they shuffle around every 4 years means nothing. Others have their own reasons not to participate in the show. Most are just to busy working.
but, these non-votes will be the ones that have to clean up the mess you Voters make, both sides will be pissed and will piss money away, and the non-voter will just get up and go to work....nov.9 ? ...just another day on the rock pile.
Do svidaniya
Here's the problem, Mr. Muffley. 2016 is not a typical election year. The Republicans have their strongest candidate in decades. The general public despises the biased, corporate media. The internet makes information readily available. Obama has proven to be a lousy President and Clinton was a KEY player in his failures around the world.
Anti-establishment politician sentiment is HIGH, and Trump has never been an elected politician. People LIKE an underdog! Do not take comfort in past patterns.
President Obama has a 57% approval rating. The discontent with the President is only evident in your circles. IF you think the candidate that destroyed the GOP and caused mass defection is the "strongest" in year, you are clearly troubled.
57% approval rating with whom? No one I know likes him at all
That is simply more made up bullshit by the Democrats. Just like the 4% unemployment rate.
57% approval rating with whom? No one I know likes him at all
That is simply more made up bullshit by the Democrats. Just like the 4% unemployment rate.
Math is hard for Trumpkins. Yeah, its ALL bullshit. Just like the polls that told you Romney was going to lose and you didn't believe it. Just like the polls that told you McCain was going to lose and you didn't believe it.
Not bad in Salisbury township. In and out in 7 minutes. And no they still did not announce our names or parties.
The reason to announce the name and party is for the benefit of the poll watchers. Apparently there were few applications for poll watchers in Lehigh County.
You really thought I use my real name and photo here? :) he he he... silly boys...
I'm not voting FOR Donald Trump -- I'm voting AGAINST Hillary...
Your company must suck and doesn't really care about you or your health, just their own wallet
No 'Jamie', it's pretty obvious you're a fraud, and in case you missed it, you were caught in a blatant lie within 24 hours of telling it. Not that anyone believes you are either educated or a woman.
Incidentally, studies consistently show that conservatives actually take slightly more in the 'handout' department than liberals, but please, don't let 'facts' get in the way of your fairy tales....
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2012/12/18/a-bipartisan-nation-of-beneficiaries/
Anonymous, you can think what you want if it makes you feel better. Indeed, you must really have issues if you spend hours on end looking to find out about someone that doesn't agree with you. I strongly suspected you're the kind of man who sits in their underwear in a room of nothing but white walls, under a naked light bulb on your 386 used computer believing all the garbage the Democrats offer you. You're the kind that we used to laugh about in my dorm that the girls we didn't like would wind up meeting and be stuck with in their doublewide.
Also, I strongly suspect that if I wasn't a conservative, you wouldn't have pursued trying to find out who I am to the ends of the earth. You're likely a stalker and have a lot of anger in your life about poor decisions you have made. Perhaps you're unemployed; perhaps you're divorced, but whatever they are you're angry about something. Maybe someone else got a job you wanted because they invested in themselves and you spent your youth drinking beer and driving a Camaro and spending money on cigarettes. Maybe if you had half a brain that was functional you wouldn't be where you are in life and be so angry
You see, not all of us are like you. Some of us actually have a future because of the time we spent doing homework, and attending college, and working hard at our jobs. You see, that's how you succeed in life. Not by stalking people on the internet who are low-lives and likely have Velcro fasteners on their sneakers that you bought at Walmart for $12 and are seven years old.
So you go on and keep on doing that. I don't live your life and perhaps someday you'll wake up and see how much a failure you are. But I doubt it. You probably don't have enough intelligence to get out of your basement. Enjoy :) Has your mom called you to come up for lunch yet ?
Yes, we can tell how successful and proud of your accomplishments you are by posing as someone you are not. It's quite obvious. By the way, only a 50 year old man would drop the "386" reference.
Actually, I just used to live in Philadelphia and remembered your comment from yesterday, and noticed you'd changed it today. Certainly not the first time you've been caught lying.
"Obamacare is for people without employer-based healthcare coverage first of all."
No kidding. And who pays for these souls? The rest of us, via increased premiums and copays. And we're getting crushed this year. I didn't get to keep my plan or my doctor. Thanks Democrats. Math has never been your strong suit. You are EXACTLY who Jonathan Gruber spoke about not being too smart. And yes, the part about it not being a tax was also a lie.
Donald Trump Packs Scranton, Pennsylvania Rally to the Rafters
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/11/07/donald-trump-packs-scranton-pennsylvania-rally-rafters/
I cast my ballot for TRUMP just a short while ago - What an Honor is was !
TRUMP - Let Freedom Ring !
I voted and the lines were never longer. When I left the lines outside were three times as long as they were when I arrived.
Obama called me a bitter clinger...
Eric Holder called me a coward...
Hillary called me a Deplorable...
Donald Trump calls me an American.
I voted for Donald Trump
The pollsters have been pushing a narrative and not been honest. Get out and vote to show them up.
anon at 12:40
Obama, Holder, Hillary, and Trump told you the truth.
You're confusing how Trump makes you FEEL, with actual knowledge.
His reprehensible comments about women aside, Trump is simply not qualified to seek the highest office in the land.
He has demonstrated an astounding lack of understanding in military matters (30,000 troops and their supporting gear are going sneak up on Mosul? Really?), courts an authoritarian leader who suppresses dissent in his home country (to the extent of assassinating political opponents), wants the US to retreat from the world stage thereby leaving a vacuum for nations such as Russia to fill and wants to enact tax and trade plans that would explode the debt and cost American jobs.
He speaks in the language of a demagogue ("I alone can fix"; as if he has some sort of mystical superpowers) fosters hate, anger and pessimism. His rise is enabled by the hot gases that emanate from the fissures he opens between groups.
He possesses no intellectual curiosity, wrongly thinking his instincts will always lead him to the correct answer. He seems to think that the President has the same power to enact deals like a chief executive of a private corporation; that he will negotiate a trade deal, sign off on it and it will become law, conveniently ignoring that dysfunctional body we call Congress. He believes that because he decrees it, other nations will "fall in line" and obey, or he will bomb them.
I sincerely believe that this has been one of the greatest ego trips ever undertaken by a human being. I am sure his sole purpose for seeking the Presidency is to see his name in every paper, every day. I would not be surprised if he created a Department of Scrapbooking to keep track of all of his mentions.
Just as I would not want a heart surgeon that has not studied and developed a sound understanding of his career, I cannot fathom voting for a candidate that cannot make a comparable effort for this job.
For the first time ever I cast my vote for the Democratic nominee. Not because I believed in her, but because of my certainty that the alternative offered by the Republicans was so, so much worse.
Bernie,
I see the irratant, toilet brigaide and the gloryhole gatherers are out in force today on your blog! They are trying to spread salve on a wound so deep and wide that even surgical removal of would not even begin to be a step in the positive dirrection that is desperatly needed?
Just think, Al Gore got more votes.
Looks Bad for Hillary
First Exit Poll: Twice as Many Voters in 2016 Want ‘Strong Leader’ as President
http://www.breitbart.com/live/2016-election-day-live-updates/first-exit-poll-twice-many-voters-2016-want-strong-leader-president/
Landslide Trump. Just count the attendance at the rallies, People walked for miles in the dark along roads to attend his rally in Scranton last night. Waiting hours to see him and be a part of this movement.
Lock Her Up
What this massive turnout across the nation is showing is that people do not want another Clinton in the White House. The Wikileaks revelation have shown that the Media and polls are in the tank for Clinton and are part of a massive disinformation campaign to convince Americans that Trmmp has no chance of winning.
The movement you're witnessing is Republicans, Moderates, Tea Partiers, Democrats and Independents coming together to take their country back.
I am particularly fortunate to be in an area where I have the opportunity to vote for a "4 time deferment chicken hawk", "4 times bankrupt", 3 times married family value megalomaniac with a penchant for grabbing pussy and also a "never had a fulltime job" "military law breaking" "advocate of date rape".
What country! Goodness the future looks bright.
I'm voting for Hillary's old flame, Janet Reno, in memorium. Make unattractive lesbians great again.
Hillary is a creepy old crooked hag and nobody likes her. No way she wins unless the vote is rigged.
The Hillary clone polsters are like the predictors in Soviet Elections.
They always predicted a 95% Stalin win.
If a Pravda reporter wrote that Stalin had a big, funny mustache, he lost his job, his apartment, and his wife her food ration cards, and probably wound up in Siberia somewhere.
If a CNN, CBS, NBC reporter said something nice about TRUMP, he would be run out of town, and told never to come back. Also his career would be torpedoed with bad references.
With Lady Gaga in a Nazi uniform how can she lose
Yeah if Lady Gaga was wearing a "Nazi uniform" it must have been the gay designer ones.lol
You guys are too funny. She had on some goofy skin tight black jumpsuit with a huge broach on. She always wears goofy stuff but if saying she dressed like a "Nazi" floats your boat, so be it.
If Trump loses hopefully our Republican Party immediately repudiates him and tries to actually push a common sense agenda. This election was the Republicans to lose and somehow we let the lowest common denominator decide that hate and vitriol was the ticket. The Hispanic vote was really up for grabs as most work hard, have strong family values and are very religious. He blew that right out of the gate. He went on to attack the disabled and women. He is a bloviating reality star narcissist and he may cost the Republicans the senate.
Now is the time to think of the future and not fixate on some past time fantasy in our nation that never existed.
"Just drag a dollar though a trailer park and look what you come up with."
A Republican landslide?
Current wait at Bushkill School is 2 hrs and growing quickly. It's been well over an hour all day. It's a heavy R district. But I hear the lady doIng signatures is slow as molasses in January. This a major failure by whomever administers these things.
I'm amused at the conclusion by some (perhaps only one?) who comment that the high turnout is a good omen for Trump. I'm of the opinion that Democrats, sane Republicans, and Independents realize that not voting might just put a nut like Trump at the wheel. Trump already knew he lost. Nobody expecting to win would accuse the election process of being "rigged." That's the excuse of a LOSER.
5:32 - voting machine problems being reported in SEVERAL states, including Pennsylvania.
5:36 - You trying to imply that means "rigged"? None of the problems are affecting the vote count. Just causing delays. But for you, you an now claim you have proof that Trump was robbed, right?
Some early exit polling
– 75%: ‘Take country back from rich and powerful’
– 72%: ‘Economy rigged for rich and powerful’
– 68%: ‘Traditional parties, politicians don’t care about me’
– 76% ‘MSM more interested in $$$ than truth’
HEY...lets send more jobs and companies offshore so we can fix our country. Hope and change anyone? Vote Clinton if you're happy with the current state of the union
From Pittsburgh:
Voting Issues: Some Trump Voters Reporting Ballots Switching To Clinton
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2016/11/08/some-problems-reported-as-voters-head-to-polls/
Bernie,
I voted this morning and the all infamous anyone else but those listed above was my write in?
REpublican redd
Aaaa the smell of the carnival circus sideshows in the morning!
6.49and one can add from pittsburg
"In Allegheny County, officials said they heard reports about machines not recording vote choices, so they sent experts to examine those machines:
“In each of those cases, there has been no evidence that the machines are working incorrectly. This includes reports in Robinson, West Deer, Hampton, and Sewickley Hills…In every election there are machines that need to be re-calibrated following transport. So far today, we have reset three machines — one each in Upper St. Clair, Monroeville, and West Mifflin. This is in line with what we see in each election.”
Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman Rob Gleason says he doesn’t see anything “nefarious” in scattered complaints Tuesday about apparent vote switching on older machines.
Butler County elections director Shari Brewer says older machines can get out of alignment during transfer. She says poll workers can cancel the vote when the wrong button lights up and move the voter to another booth.
Pennsylvania Secretary of State Pedro Cortes says the GOP reported problems with about 25 out of nearly 24,000 machines statewide. He says in all cases votes ended up being recorded correctly.
so much for the rigged election myth
Lafayette COLLEGE HAS it's own machine -i say the students should apply for absentee ballots from the the venue they are from .LIKE MILITARY FOLKS HAVE TO.Well Donald id going to wack these socialist at our local collage anyway. Looks like they are basically fucked at this hour. Well I hope so these characters have taken over the city. They are there own entity. Ipay more in taxes because the rich kids that go to this school don't have to contribute here -BUT THEY VOTE.
AND-Bernie I have stated on your blog that Easton Area Schools District is spending another--20 million dollars to upgrade a building with stuff they don't need --the ANCHOR BABIES at this school will go back with their illegal parents now . It;s over . 20 MILLION we have incompetent board members they are just --ahh. This is whey your taxes are out of hand.STUPID
Was #1455 in Upper Nazareth and it took a little more than an hour. Guessing about 1600 votes will be cast in a Township just over 6000.
TRUMP WINS!!!
CNN Is in total denial.
The New York Times gives Trump a 63% chance of winning PA
It would be nice if PA was the state that put Trump over the top.
The dominoes are falling for Trump now.. Iowa & Wisconsin.....
Trump is going to win. I'm calling it now at 11:40pm
Bernie would have won...shame on the democrats for nominating a republican to represent their party.
Too bad, next time stay with your base.
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