The undercover state trooper responsible for the recent successful raid on four Nazareth social clubs has been outed. An East Lawn social club employee has already made sure that all the social clubs in the Nazareth know who this person is. At Sunday night's men-only Super Bowl party at Holy Family, he made sure the officers there know. The other Nazareth social clubs have been tipped as well. How he found out is unclear, although I'm sure that Pennsylvania State Police will be asking him. You see, he's been outed, too.
Most of these social clubs are headed by people who are either connected to or are part of local government. For East Lawn, it is former Upper Nazareth Supervisor Bobby Recker. For Vigilance Hose, it was Nazareth Mayor Carl Strye. For the Legion, it was Nazareth Borough Council member Larry Stoudt.
In the past, Larry Stoudt has asked local police to investigate the identity of a club applicant who turned out to be an undercover trooper. Larry was charged with obstruction and ended up on ARD.
Regardless how you feel about gambling, asking local police to do favors for you puts you on a slippery slope.
24 comments:
Can someone anonymously name the "rat", thanks in advance.
I will delete any comment that names this person.
Is this topic even wise to post?
Yes. Let these guys know that the staties are two or three steps ahead of them, and we are starting to see why these guys want positions in local government
I hope all this nonsense going on doesnt hurt the social clubs and helps clean them up. Sounds like some true leaders need to stand up and be elected to the boards of these clubs. No room for political crap in such a small geographic foothold. I have to admit, I didnt know small games of chance, for $$ not prizes was not legal, call me dumb, but i never gave it second thought. My bad. I have played for prizes, never bothered for cash, dont know why, im assuming prizes are OK. I enjoy going to East Lawn,the food is good, familiar faces that are all friendly. IT is cheap. I take my family there because it is clean and no nonsense bar stuff goes on( atleat at dinner hours). I can only rarely afford to take them out, and East Lawn makes it possible to more often.
"Can someone anonymously name the "rat", thanks in advance."
What kind of chicken shit question is that? First, you don't identify yourself. And you're asking for someone else to be a snitch, anonymously. What a beauty.
Those small games of chanvce can be legal, but reliance on a letter from Boscola to stop the staties does not work. She may think she is a queen, but The machines are not.
It's time for the government and yes "STATE POLICE" to get out of our personal lives. If I want to take a chance on a football pool at my favorite bar, I should be allowed to do so. As long as all the money is given out and the house isn't making any money....who gives a shit. Its not like I'm going to the Sands and dropping five hundred or my paycheck. Get out of our lives. A little fun at my local bar during the biggest sporting event of the year should not be a matter for the state police. They should get their lazy asses out and catch the druggies and the meth lab operators. They can't get the marijuana users anymore because they legalized the drug. Get the get who is an upstanding citizen and likes to have fun once a year and nail his ass.
If I knew who the cop was I would let people know. He isn't ashamed of his job is he?
The letter from Boscola was accurate. It stated that no bet could be more than $20.00 and you had to pay out the money. You can't bet on one team but when the outcome of the game is an unknown because you are not betting on only one team, it is a legal lottery. Was the nazareth gang playing foro more than twenty dollars. I think so. That is why they got nailed. Correct me if I'm wrong. Was the nazareth gang betting more than twenty dollars?
You can't even let people know who you are. Not exactly a person of courage.
10:18, My information is that it was considerably more than $20.
It's not just 'a bet' . Social clubs and Legion Posts get cleaned out all the time by somebody inside. Only a few entities are likely in compliance with books and taxes,along with donation of percentages to a real charity-a 501 3 C type. Some of this is about greed and tax free . Loose and unaccountable ,discretionary spending by labor types in clubs becomes a home wrecker.
"At Sunday night's men-only Super Bowl party at Holy Family ..."
This statement is simply false. Again, please ask Judge or Mrs. Dally. There were plenty of women in a attendance, including my spouse. Drafts were $1.50, including Blue Moon! There was a special on wings, also. Nice place; clean with good prices and nice people. They run a mixed doubles bowling league on the weekends. There's lots of cute girls there on Friday nights.
If you made up this part of the story, what's to say you aren't lying about the rest of it? You are well aware of judges' admonishments to jurors about witnesses who've been caught in a lie about one part of their testimony.
What gives?
I don't believe Judge Dally would appreciate the way you are using him to buttress your own anonymous argument. The party upstairs is men-only and has been that way for years. I specifically asked my source.
How quickly it is forgotten that poker machines were confiscated. Was this bust about them or were they just an added score in the PSP search for super bowl boards?
Seems to be a hidden agenda in all this we have not been told yet
The policeman was just doing his job. The real rat is the Bernie O'Hare friend who snitched to O'Hare.
Probably one of those sticker goons.
Just kiddiing
I'm glad that the state police have all crime under control and can concentrate on stuff like this. What a tremendous waste of resources. Nobody cared until the state and its politicians and their gaming benefactors monopolized gambling. Just like the mob, as soon as they corner the market, they protect what's theirs by whatever means available. It's like The Sopranos, except these enforcers wear badges and collect unsustainable pensions. Society would be better off if the obsessively prying would mind their own business and not be so concerned that somebody might be enjoying him or herself.
I just talked to everal pwople who go to the superbowl party every year and akthough thwy sy its boring a heck....its not all nwlw. BERNIE i like ya mot of tge time but this make me wonder whether your source is tainted or has other intentions ..double check it
Sounds like you started your evening martinis early. The real Superbowl party costs $45, is upstairs, and is for men only. There is another party downstairs, open to everyone.
Okay, if the party cost $45.00 and you got a block on the Superbowl Raffle, Isn't that illegal? Does the law make a stipulation for so much to food, so much for prizes, and so much for alcohol? I don't think so. It does make a distinction for the amount given to a charity and the amount allowed to charge, however I didn't see anything that also includes food and alcohol. That has to be something separate from the "POOL". AM I right or AM I right?
Congratulations to anyone who drops the dime on anyone who turns in a VFW, A Legion, A volunteer firehouse, or any other social club helping our Community for selling super bowl blocks. NO one person had financial gain in these "pools", and all the above organizations help our soldiers and fight fires in our community. I for one am sick and tired of watching government regulate morality while they pass laws to line their own pockets and coffers, i.e. legalize gambling and state lotteries etc. etc. This Trooper is a a member of this club, frequents the club under false pretenses, buys drinks for himself and other customers all for the sole purpose of "sticking it to em". It's okay for the state to sell lottery tickets for $30.00 and sell unlimited tickets out of their machines to thousands of people who can ill afford to buy those tickets, but it is illegal for our volunteer organizations to raise monies to help in our Communities. Just another view.
To all of you that think the money raised goes back to these organizations is sadly mistaken. This money raised at these clubs goes back into the operating expenses and when you join up most of the clubs will tell you upfront that their affiliations are separate. Holy Family is separate from the church and is not linked to support the church. Hecktown Fire Co does not even have a fire fighter on the board of their social club and most of the board members do not even live in the area of the fire company to ever get there in time to put out a fire. The American Legion in Nazareth has one fundraiser to help their little league and that is all. Look up their financials on line and you will see exactly how these operations work and they contribute nothing to support the communities in which they operate. I have sat at the American Legion and watched a woman pull out a check book to write the legion a check and I am thinking how nice of her. She hands the check to the bartender and the bartender, instead of thanking her, hands her a small game of chance board. Here this woman plays the board off and when she wins the prize she asks for her check back. Is this fair? Can she use her checks written on income tax as donations to a charitable organization? How about going to Hecktown and seeing the bartender with a big roll of payout money in his pocket stand next to you at the poker machine and start putting in 20.00 bills and not playing one dollar or two dollars, but 10.00 a game and hitting a three of a kind or full house and collecting a nice payout for himself. Is that fair? Do you have that privilege? How about going to Holy Family when they had their machines and seeing the machine in use placard on the machine with a payout before the club even opened. Is this fair? Could you do this and get away with it? NO, the rules are enforced for some, but the privileged have no rules. I am happy that there is a crackdown at these clubs, the greed is sickening and by the way, Hecktown's football pool last year was 100.00 a block. The breakdown for that pool left someone pocketing 3500.00 that did not go back to the patrons who played. SO for all of you know it all's that think you have it right, think again, because even the people in high places in these towns know what goes on and looks the other way or is part of the problem and not the solution.
Great comment!
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