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Wednesday, August 03, 2016

Blue Lives Matter in Hanover Tp


Blue lives matter in Hanover Tp. A thin blue line, bordered in black, has been painted along Brodhead Road in front of The Colonial Regional Police Department. That's a regional police force serving Hanover and Lower Nazareth Townships, as well as Bath Borough.

A blue line in front of every police department would be a good way to alert the public where departments are located in the event of an emergency, and should be considered by PennDOT.

This road work is the product of Vince Milite's very capable Public Works Department. The idea came from Hanover Tp Supervisor Mike Prendeville.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

1st!

Bernie O'Hare said...

I meant to hold this until midnight, but love the story.

Anonymous said...

excellent idea

Anonymous said...

Good idea, but sorry to say it will have to be removed until approved at the state level. PennDOT has guidelines on road markings, street signs, etc.

Bernie O'Hare said...

I suspect PennDOT will approve. These markings enhance public safety.

Anonymous said...

The blue line as a possible indication of a police staion makes some sense. I agree with 11:38 that if PennDot was not consulted and this is a state road, they should not have done it. Hanover township is known as an attention wanting place with public officials that love to be noticed.

The biggest problem with this is the slap in the face to the entire point of the Black Lives Matters movement. Of course police officers lives matter. Other than some criminals or the criminally insane no one wants to see a police officer shot or harmed. So the entire point of the "Blue Lives Matter" movement is like the "All Lives Matter" movement, which is no kidding, why? Both these movements have some dark roots in the anger over African Americans bringing to light something that is irrefutable in that some Black folk get treated worse than White folk by some police. Of course this is not all police but with the advent of citizen journalists we are seeing examples of excessive force that frankly is shocking. The systemic racism that still exists in society is something we all have to deal with. To dismiss it with competing life matters misses the point completely.

So while I, as everyone, support the police and am grateful for their service to the community, they are in positions of authority while a Black kid is not.

From Black males getting longer and more jail time to epidemic poverty and unemployment. The lily white suburban community of Hanover Twp., may want to get a better understanding of the entire Black Lives Matters agenda and not take the bait on the knee jerk response by making a show of something every sane person already knows and agrees with.

A citizen

Anonymous said...

that's actually pretty well stated, 3:32. there have bee some serious issues with BLM, however.

Anonymous said...

The blue painted line does not meet any published PennDOT regulation relating to approved road markings. PennDOT is responsible for so called long line painting its own roads, not a Township. The Township has willingly put itself in a liability situation. I am sure its insurance carrier would not be happy and may even not cover the Township should something awful happen and it can be tied to the blue line road painting. While a nice thought, the Township should contact PennDOT to make sure the painting is put back to specification.

Anonymous said...

Undoubtedly PennDOT will chime in at some point. But, a blue line "bordered in black" or a blue line with the 2 adjacent yellow lines painted over so the blue is visible? Another reason for PennDOT to come calling.

Anonymous said...

White Lives Matter

Anonymous said...

The experts are out in this one, did not know so many knew all about PENN DOT.
To 3:34, would love to know why you are pissed at Hanover Twp. Public officials do not seek publicity, but get things done quietly and efficiently. Come by and compare the township complex to Bernie's favorite township(s).
Your racial slurs are completely uncalled for. You are either an alcoholic or have serious mental problems.

Anonymous said...

Cops are of control and this is another incident of them thinking they are above any and all laws!

Bernie O'Hare said...

Let me get this straight. Some guys in a township road crew decide to paint a blue line outside a police station to honor the officers,and that is evidence that the cops are out of control? Where did you study logic? Trump U?

Anonymous said...

put a sign "police station ahead" on either end of the painting.
most people when driving down the street would think "not a bad idea"
lawyers however?

Anonymous said...

I understand the Township is trying to support its police force, however if I pass a car in this section and crash, will the township be held liable? This is an insurance and legal nightmare. There are other ways to honor our officers other than causing confusion in the roadway with so many poor drivers as there is out there.

Anonymous said...

@6:41.
I don't think Broadhead is a state road, which means PennDOT would not be responsible for painting the lines. Although I like the sentiment, it still may be improper.

Anonymous said...

Lets turn even the lines in the dam road into contention. For heavens sake.

Only an absolute bullshit artist could make an argument "These markings enhance public safety." It's just a trifling tribute to otherwise very brave and much more deserving public servants. It's effect does more to divide the police from the entire community, and bases on the current climate, possibly make them more of a target.

Those folks who have business with police at the "station house" know where it is, not everyone needs to know. We should as a community do all we can to protect the police and not paint them with a divisive stripe.

Anonymous said...

In health care, a blue line means trouble.

Bernie O'Hare said...

Then I would guess Blue Cross should have consulted with you before naming itself.

Bernie O'Hare said...

"Only an absolute bullshit artist could make an argument "These markings enhance public safety." It's just a trifling tribute to otherwise very brave and much more deserving public servants. It's effect does more to divide the police from the entire community, and bases on the current climate, possibly make them more of a target."


These colors around a police station would without question enhance public safety. They would provide a clear indication just where the police station is located to a passing motorist who might be unfamiliar with the area or emotionally distraught. And blue is a color that "conveys importance and confidence without being somber or sinister, hence the power suit of the corporate world and the uniforms of many police officers."

http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/colorselection/p/blue.htm

No bullshit.

Let me add that I am unfamiliar with PennDOT road requirements. If this is prohibited, Hanover should ask Senator Scavello to propose a new rule that specifically authorizes the use of blue coloring on the streets outside of police stations. I know he would help.

Everyone should be able to find a police station, and this would no more single out an officer than he already is when he pulls someone over for a traffic offense.

Your absurd arguments are why wingnuts like Trump get traction.

Anonymous said...

I drive that road every day and I love the blue line!

It is a very short span of the road and I don't believe anyone would be foolish enough to try to pass anyone or misunderstand it.

If it symbolizes anything - it says there is a Police Station here so don't do anything stupid.

Anonymous said...

If cops would stop shooting at unarmed and mostly mentally challenged individuals, then maybe we can all get along.

Bernie O'Hare said...

Only the most extreme among us think like that. You are as full of hate as the wackiest Trump extremist.

Anonymous said...


This is in response to "Black lives matter" and not public safety concerns. Next you'll be saying this was in the works before there was a "black lives matter".

Just like the cash money being unloaded from planes for hostages. Right, that was just something already in the pipeline.

Anonymous said...

I think we are improving as time goes on, we use to burn a cross, or hang a few from trees, to let'em know they'd be happier living elsewhere. This is more civil.

Bernie O'Hare said...

Your comment makes no sense and only succeeds in portraying you as a sicko.

Bernie O'Hare said...

5:19, of course it is a recognition that police lives matter and is a measure of respect for men and women who put their lives on the line every day. But it does have the added advantage of enhancing public safety, whether you like it or not. And it is completely idiotic to suggest that police station locations be hidden from the public they serve.

Anonymous said...

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database

Anonymous said...

What if they posted a "no passing zone" sign?

Bernie O'Hare said...

I am expert on the rules of the road.

Anonymous said...

"Only the most extreme among us think like that"

Agreed that only the most extreme would say that police lives don't matter. Problem is none of this started until after the black lives matter folks pointed out some cold sad facts. This type of stuff was brought to us by the same people that showed pictures of Obama with a loin cloth and a ring in his nose after his election. When did sane people stop caring about police? The enitre thing is childish at best.

Anonymous said...

Martian Lives Matter!

Anonymous said...

To clarify, this is a township road, not Penndot so the township can do as they wish. This paint is only 50ft or so long, so in that short distance you think you will lose your mind and forget how to safely drive a car, we have bigger issues.
By law, line paint has nothing to do with the ability to pass another car. As long as its not posted "no passing zone", you can pass anywhere as long as it can be done safely. So you get in accident and its your fault, red white or blue lines say its still your fault.