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Monday, December 02, 2013

Allentown Priest Worries About Gay Menace

Run! The queers are coming! 
Even its most strident cheerleaders will agree there are many problems in Allentown. Violent crime. High unemployment. Terrible schools. Extreme poverty. Hunger. Homelessness. It's a place where a church, any church, can do so much good. So what does one Allentown priest do?

Attack the gays.

In a snippy letter to the editor, a Catholic Allentown pastor has taken aim, not at any of Allentown's real problems, but those damn queers. Andrew Baker, a Bishop wannabe housed in comfort at Allentown's Cathedral, calls same sex benefits a "potential harm to the common good" and likens them to extending maternity benefits to men.

Gays, incidentally, are manufactured in Greece by Satan and then shipped all over the world.

Baker has condemned the gay menace before. In 2002, while doing a stint at the Vatican with all the other Bishop wannabes, the obscene wealth did not trouble him a bit. But he sure was bothered by gay priests. In an essay, Baker called homosexuality a "disorder" and worried that gay priests could ruin the good gig priests have at places like St. Catharine of Siena, where rich people can pretend they're just like Jesus Christ. Except cleaner.

I'd be a little more worried about pedophiles.

If you google Baker, you'll learn that he's very concerned about gays and "religious freedom." But not much about poverty, illness, homelessness, violence.

Make that man a Cardinal!

Baker does not speak for the Church. Nor does Vic Mazziotti, a Lehigh County Commissioner who hid behind Baker's robes to justify a vote denying same sex benefits in that County.

Pope Francis, who does speak for the Church, has just released his first Apostolic Exhortation, Evangelii Gaudium. He thinks the Church should focus on the poor, not the gay menace. In fact, he condemns the "wafer wars" threatened by misguided clergymen against those who refuse to follow a message of intolerance. "The Eucharist, although it is the fullness of sacramental life, is not a prize for the perfect, but a powerful medicine and nourishment for the weak." The Pope wants the Church to be more inclusive, not less.

Allentown's poverty problem should bother the Pope a lot more than queers. I'd love to see Baker and all the other Monsignors and auxiliary Bishops come out of their cathedral and actually help people, instead of advising some rich guy after Mass that he's right to hate gay people. .

The Pope's message does not specifically address the gay question. That itself is a signal. The Church needs to be more focused on helping people than deciding who is worthy of Holy Communion.

33 comments:

Anonymous said...

Read the letter. The guy sounds more like a pompous ass Presbyterian than a Catholic priest. Feed and cloth the poor and worry less about the gays.

Maybe he is the official padre of the Santorum for President movement, who knows. By the way, all you folks worried about the gays should google "Santorum" I think you will be amazed.

God Lord, is that what we focus on in a world full of misery?

Bernie O'Hare said...

Since 2011, Presbyterians have welcomed gay members and clergy.

Anonymous said...

As a Catholic I must say that I feel the Church seems to dwell on gays and birth control pills a great deal more than hu8nger and sexual predators.

The Church asked for Mercy in handling sexual predator priests. Too bad it does not call for mercy regarding gays and women.

I was not sure about the new pope. Now that Rush Limbaugh has attacked the Pope, I know we have a good one.

Bernie O'Hare said...

I don't think there is much substantive difference between Francis and his two immediate predecessors. He is not going to change the goofy rules. But he is going to try to change the Church's focus, make it more responsive to the very real problems facing people instead of sermons about the evils of abortion and those damn queers. He is being called a Marxist, etc. He is not. He is not a liberal or a conservative. He is one cRaZy radical, much like Jesus Christ must have been. Don't know if he has got around to washing the feet of hookers, but he's well on the way.

Anonymous said...

r u pro queer (your word) or anti catholic - or both?

Anonymous said...

Ironic. Baker is a cleric in an organization that is obsessed with gays. I am a lifelong Catholic, Jesuit educated and have many relatives, ancestors and friends who are (were) priests and religious. A reasonable estimate is that 25 % of priests and religious are gay because it is a comfortable shield for this lifestyle. Yet the pompous Baker (yes he does have red hat ambitions) chooses to rant. Sad situation for the Church founded by single man who traveled with a band of brothers and preached tolerance.

Anonymous said...

@5:53

Bernie is set to come (cum) out of the closet and finally run for office (Oriface).

Anonymous said...

@5:53. You must be so proud of yourself. As it is now 8:45 7th grade must have begun.
Have a great day and be sure to wash those sheets.

Bernie O'Hare said...

5:53 is the Blog Mentor. He does not care about any issue, only his own hatred.

Anonymous said...

Actually, the Pope Francis' 1st Holy Thursday as a Pope, he went to a detention school for the youth of Rome and washed their feet. This home is not like a detention home in the USA. These are forgotten youth and hardened criminals' feet that he humbly washed. It was quite a groundbreaking event.

Bernie O'Hare said...

Very cool.

Anonymous said...

Baker's a piece of shit!

Bernie O'Hare said...

But not gay shit.

Anonymous said...

The gays are at the gates. If we do not stop them no anus is safe!

The Shankers wankers battalion will soon be upon us.

Anonymous said...

I don't agree with the priest and don't care what anybody does. But anyone - hetero or homo - who finds anything attractive or pleasurable about the place where shit comes out is sick. I'm for gay marriage. I'm for equal treatment of all kinds of sick freaks. Live and let live.

Bernie O'Hare said...

As the Pope would say, while placing a hand on his derriere, "Who am I to judge?"

Anonymous said...

www.nambla.org

Because our kids will end up screwed up anyway ... who are we to judge?

Bernie O'Hare said...

There's a big difference between homosexuality, which is legal, and pedophilia, which is not. Society has rendered judgment on that point. And when you come right down to it, even a pedophile is a child of God.

Anonymous said...

All of the priest problems with molesting boys probably can be answered by so many priest being gay. Gay men many times prefer boys. The man boy association that has been legal. In this country for years is about men and young, young boys. Having children I would kill any adult who would molest my child. You can say you are fine with gays but this situation and the many adult woman now molesting young girls is going on way too much. When it's all about sex there are no boundaries. Google adult teachers, women and see how many have sexual encounters with our young daughters. Now they complain and insist they are not held to equal justice because they are gay? It's not the same to them as a man with a girl. Really??? This is what we are becoming. For those who are okay with this I think the rest of us have a good picture of them....

Bernie O'Hare said...

I understand and respect your desire to protect your children. I won't argue with your desire to play it safe.

But the notion that because someone is homosexual, he likes young boys, is wrong. The notion that because someone is a lesbian, she likes young girls, is wrong. It is a myth, and is often used to justify intolerance.

According to the American Psychology Ass'n, the incidence of pedophilia among homosexuals is no greater than that among heterosexuals.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2010/winter/10-myths#.UXHUZrXvv2s

Anonymous said...

Bernie gay men and woman do go for young children. I am talking under 18. You don't address the man boy association. Or the gay men who travel outside of this country for boys. It's not all of them but far too many. You have to worry about men and woman with your young daughters or boys. I had a business once where I witnessed this man boy thing up close and personal. It's a different world for them. Most of the ways we have raised our children applies loosely to gays. I am sorry but from what I have seen and do see far too many of them are the permiscuous person parents, actual mother and fathers have not wNtsd their children tp be. Do u really think 2 lesbians teach a young girl about love for a man or about anything remotely moral? I know they do not do this. How do they raise a boy to have a healthy respectful love for woman? These children have to figure it all out on their own and with even more confusion then the child raised by their parents. It is just very different and the children and society pay the price. Their is no price to high to protect children. Or grandchildren. Or anyone's children. We do what we can.

Bernie O'Hare said...

I sent you a link to the data. That is all I can do. Pedophilia occurs among both hetero and homosexuals.

M.McShea said...

Francis is little more than new lace curtains in the windows. Don't expect any children to be safe in any Catholic Institution any century soon.

Also regarding institutional bigotry, anti-gayness, pouring out of a very crowded RC closet - Anti-Gay Bigotry is in some Catholic circles these days the New Black. lol

http://thisculturalchristian.blogspot.com/2013/12/rc-church-allentown-pa-lehigh-county.html

Bernie O'Hare said...

Michael, I must genuflect whenever I say your last name. Bishop McShea used to always buy ice cream for my sister.

Anonymous said...

You guys would all be shocked if you had the facts. Sex abuse between adults and children is nothing compared to the abuse among children. Like say 14 against those 5 or 6. The old stories about playing doctor has new meaning in this day and age. Kids Peace is full of both perps and victims. Since its only the most serious cases that get reported the problem just festers and leads to Adult predators both hetero and closeted gays. Openly gay men are the least likely to be offenders. Don't take my word get the facts from Waldron at children and youth.

Anonymous said...

There is no question that queers love to prey on children. Sadly, with the onset of Obama the country is going down hill fast. We are now being forced to accept defective human behavior as normal.

There is a reason we don't have gay scout leaders. These gays cannot control themselves around children.

8:51 is right.

Anonymous said...

We are forced to accept defective human behavior as normal, your right 12:40 even you are acceptable.

Anonymous said...

"cover your ass", takes on a whole new meaning around the gays.

Anonymous said...

Did you ever see gays in a parade or on a gay beach? They act with no class at all. Men on top of men at a beach. Men practically having sex with men on the side in parades. There are no other people I can think of that act so x rated in public. Grace is another word that does not apply. There is a small segment of straight people who act up in public but not usually to the extent of gay men. There is a reason gays and lesbians dislike each other. Lesbians hate that gay men make the money for the most part. They also know their actions cause the lesbians to be looked down on too. And lesbians dislike anyone with a penis...they can dislike their fathers. Ever know a gay man who didn't love his mother. They are a mixed up group for sure. Then we throw in some kids so they can be a family. They come and they go for the most part. That is how they are. Without innocent kids involved who cares....I've seen outed gay men and yes they had someone's 17 year old son. Even younger. And do you really trust lesbians with their young daughters friends.? What a deal.......

Bernie O'Hare said...

Look, I get offended when gay rights activists think their issues matter more than anything else. But I know and am friends with several gay people, and yes. I would trust them with my grandchildren. You are making generalizations that are inappropriate.

Anonymous said...

anon 6:46 has the guts to tell it like it is, not what the "Obamaites" want you to believe. Sodomy is not funny. Guys that do other guys in the but are sick in the head.

I am thankful real Americans were elected in Northampton County so the equal benefits nonsense will be voted down there just like in Lehigh County.

Anonymous said...

So are they generally like the ones you know or are they generally like the hoards of them I've witnessed? a parade alone is a large group of them. Maybe it's 50/50 but that is a large number in itself. How about the Florida keys? There are many there and they do act up. At all ages. Sure there are some who are more grounded but in the end they all win when they win. And Bernie I'm not so sure you have the character to be the one convincing anyone that you know much about others level of character. My grand kids are not available to these people. Sorry. When they are older and can handle themselves then sure they may be around them as they are a part of society but they will be old enough to handle themselves. While I like you personally I don't see anything here to teach my children or grandchildren to aspire to. You do write well and try to give an honest interpretation. Guess that's something. Don't we all go by what we experience and see through our own lifes? Ours are very different.

Anonymous said...

BO why is honesty inappropriate? We learn by what we see through the years and do you really think many people out here haven't seen some of what is said by 6:58? We don't all have nice classy gay friends. They are 5% of the population and make 25% of the noise out here. Many, maybe not your friends but many are uncomfortable in their own skin and they end up being victims of society. People are entitled to their feelings and to their opinions.