Brenda, a new reader, was raked over last night for daring to criticize Judge Baratta's decision. She's anonymous, but I think she's Brenda Song, who's always calling me and asking me for dates. Brenda has a reaction to Judge Baratta's tortured decision upholding the Gracedale initiative against a claim that it violates a Northampton County Charter prohibition against plebiscites that "extend to the budget." Hizzoner agrees that Gracedale certainly has an impact on the budget, but inexplicable concludes that an initiative concerning its fate does not "extend to the budget."
"The recent decision of Judge Baratta to allow the Gracedale question on the ballot has left a miserable looking scar on the faces of all Northampton County taxpayers. Where else in the world is a flame throwing special interest group allowed to buck their agenda onto an election ballot? The answer is nowhere, Judge Baratta. Allentown State Hospital never appeared on the ballot. Hagedorn State Hospital in NJ, again, not on the ballot. In your decision, you have just literally required a permission slip signed by the voters for a government to sell off an asset. This precedent you have set is not only bothersome, but also frightening. The petition process was flawed and contained upwards of 3,000 invalid signatures. Will you allow me to vote twice on this issue and bring all of my NJ friends to the polling place to have their vote? Regardless of profitability or lack thereof, governments need not compete with the private sector. Excellent patient care exits in privately run nursing homes. We elected a county council to make the decisions that need to be made. That is why they are there. If the county voters are disappointed by council's decisions, they can vote them out of office. When a judge is so fearful as to crawl underneath his bench in his own courtroom to avoid emotional upheaval and bad press, the citizens he serves should be fearful of him. I hope you are appealed and swiftly reversed at the Commonwealth Court. A disgrace!"
61 comments:
I won't even bother asking where she received her legal education. Suffice it to say her letter is very similar to Bernie and many other bagger complaints. Most of those mentioned are inaccurate at best and flat out fabrications at their worse.
This is why so many people don't grasp the real history and Gracedales place in the promised security of Northampton Counties elderly. Gracedale does not compete in the classic sense with private facilities. Private facilities have oft turned down the elderly sick on medicaid with multiple health issues both physical and mental. Those folks are taken by Gracedale.
Sadly many have bought the propaganda and hate fueled rhetoric of the right wing County Council and their leaders Ron Angle and John Stoffa. The facts when examined and truly understood do not add up to their conclusions.
Least we forget Mr. Stoffa needs the money from the sale to not only balance his books but to fund his drug addict live-in shelter and lounge. That will require more than 90% pure county tax dollars. As opposed to Gracedale that receives over 95% of its funds from the Federal government.
The issues it faces today are solvable. The need for Gracedale to exist for the county is a long term necessity.
However the desired sale is based on short term political philosophy and misplaced priorities by the Stoffa Administration. They lack the ability of other Administrations to run Gracedale effectively, either by choice or talent.
The real story of Gracedale regarding care, cost and policy will be presented to the voters of the County.
Most of the elderly voters we have talked to have made it clear that they are sick to death of John Stoffa and Ron Angle putting their pet projects ahead of Gracedale Nursing Home. The one thing they can count on as county taxpayers.
The Truth will set you free but first you must open your eyes and your ears.
We The People
from reading her remarks i was left with the impression she just didn't have all the facts and only hears one side of the story here. which is fine with me everyone is entitled to free speech.
bo is as sleazy as they come. wouldn't be surprised if he isn't masquerading as this broad or any one else for that matter. I believe he puts in anon blogs just to stir the pot. just take a gander at his cohorts and you can see he is non-worthy of any real consideration or thought.
I am so happy to see that it was published. About my exact identity, well, thats going to have to wait. I must thank Bernie for selecting a pic of me in my more youthful days. I was going to show my face at Thursdays meeting , but work has gotten in the way.
And I was precisely right about the reaction. Cold, heartless....no, its election fraud and has nothing to do with Gracedale
Brenda,
Yes...it is amazing. There is a bunch of Union Thugs that earn mega bucks for the job they do at Gracedale in fact I think they live around Million Dollar Highway. But then there is a MOB of GOONS that have been outrageous at meetings and swore in front of boyscouts and then they mugged people into signing the petitions at the election polls. There was also this woman who was just outrageous at the council meetings....I think her name was "Kunkletown Kook". There are tons of duplicate signatures on the petitions that the Election Board didn't pick up. But then on a better note, we are lucky to have Ron Angle.....the most compassionate, well mannered councilman ever. He is the most "squeeky clean" politician. He doesn't accept donations from any source other than hard working constituents. Bernie, by the way is the most respected former attorney there is in the Lehigh Valley and just simply forgot to do things when he was an attorney for his clients. So please....keep following this blog and believe every word you read.
By the way....I'm selling the Brooklyn Bridge....do you wanna buy it?
The brooklyn bridge huh? hmmm, lets see, thousands in toll money, but dont forget about the million dollar upkeep repairs made by union workers. The repairs are so costly, I am not sure it would be worth it. I'd have to apply for government subsidies to keep it open.
But maybe the repair work could be done by the private sector...now there's an idea..but if I bid my contracts I am definately afraid that the giant inflated rat will be blocking my front door by tomorrow morning
Getting this thing on the ballot might have been ugly, but there is nothing wrong with taxpayers having a say on whether or not they want to keep paying for Gracedale. Representative government jumped the shark generations ago. They rarely do what is in the interest of those they represent, unless it just happens to be a tangential result of serving themselves and their friends first.
If the taxpayers kill it, so be it. If they vote to pay more to keep it alive, that will tell you much about how "in touch" our leaders really are.
Now, if we could just get to vote on the school districts' CBAs and administrator contracts, rather than for fat-ass board members who keep shaking us down, that would be something!
Brenda, If you google search the name "Brenda," the first or second image that comes up is Brenda Song, who won't leave me alone. That's why I used that picture.
it sounds like this woman has an agenda and that she doesn't trust voters.
Angle might be right: voters may very well opt to reject the question. Why not trust them to do what is right?
The opposition to the sale of Gracedale centers on one issue - protecting the salary and fringe benefits of the Gracedale union employees. Pure and simple.
Unions always try to deflect the issue of their salary and fringe benefits (teachers talk of education and children, Gracedale employees talk about the elderly)but most of us see right through this smoke screen. If the unions want to "save" Gracedale all they have to do is agree to roll back 1/3 of their 68% of salary fringe benefits. They will not do it. It is the only issue of which they and their supporters care.
Its fine Bernie. Its cracking me up that people are leaping to conclusions that I have been invented by you when we have never even met or spoken.
They can think this all they want. The Molvinsky Blog had me laughing out loud
By Bernie's oft-repeated logic from past posts, this Brenda girl is a coward for anonymously criticizing this judge without coming forward and identifying herself.
I think Bernie posted it because I offered my opinion on it with out too much personal attack on the judge. The sentence about him crawling under his bench was slightly inflamatory, but I still think I'm OK to keep silent on my identity
I think you are too. My point simply is that Bernie is selective when it comes to anonymous comments. Some are so slanderous and harsh that they deserve nothing less than condemnation, if not deletion. But others are no less harsh than yours and he still condemns the posters as cowards if he disagrees with their POV. Others that he agrees with, like yours, he publicizes and trumpets as its wisdom from the heavens.
I know Bernie makes no claim of consistency when it comes to his comments, but that shouldn't give him free reign to hypocritical.
If you don't like the way I handle this blog, don't read it.
I generally permit comments that should be deleted but have deleted nasty shots at people I already dislike bc they are personal.
The opposition to the sale of Gracedale centers on one issue - protecting the salary and fringe benefits of the Gracedale union employees. Pure and simple.
Unions always try to deflect the issue of their salary and fringe benefits (teachers talk of education and children, Gracedale employees talk about the elderly)but most of us see right through this smoke screen. If the unions want to "save" Gracedale all they have to do is agree to roll back 1/3 of their 68% of salary fringe benefits. They will not do it. It is the only issue of which they and their supporters care.
They offered 3 mill give backs to START
Then the union reps took over.
If surveyed the "good working people" of Gracedale would consider all options and work with the county on givebacks. When the union itself gets involved that is when it turns bad.
Don't paint them with the same brush.
I personnaly know that a substantial group of employees pays what is called "fair share" . These employees are covered by union negotiated benefits however have no vote and disagree with union mentality and the way they handeled the givebacks. . They would be willing to abolish the union and work with the county. I know this because my wife is a worker there and does this exact thing. She has always been and a growing number now have become leary of the unions. That said please don't paint them with the same brush. Especially if all you know is what you read in here.
Brenda may be anonymous and her LTE is slightly inflamnmatory, but it is by no means a personal attack. She is criticizing a judge and is stating why she disagrres with him, while the anonymous trolls here delight in cowardly personal attacks that don't even address the substance of a post.
"They can think this all they want. The Molvinsky Blog had me laughing out loud"
Brenda,
Today is the third time in the last 2 weeks that he accused me of posting under other made up names or anonymously. The first time, it will Bill Coker, who was very surprised to learn that he is me. Bill terstified in the Gracedale case. The second time, it was an anonymous comment on his blog, and I cannot disporve a negative. Now, he is insinuating that I must have created you.
He gets sidetracked by all his personal attacks instead of addressing the actual issues concerning Gracedale.
I just got off the phone with Scott Parsons
I volunteered my time and donated 25 million dollars for his campaign against Ron Angle
I suggest anyone who is disappoined with our current representation contact Scott and see what you can do.
Sorry Ron I voted for you EVERYTIME you ran. This Gracedale thing is the kicker.
Good luck in your future endeavors
Bill terstified in the Gracedale case
He was lucky he didn't place himself on the "grassy knoll" with his testamony
LOL
Anonymous 3:17 AM
That was a wonderful statement to bad there are no facts to back it up.
At one time Gracedale was a profitable facility. So were a lot of other facilities and businesses. Gracedale is running on a deficit. The competition in the area is going to wipe out Gracedale and at that point she will not be worth what she is today. Why you say? Because her fees are enormous, $260 per day plus medicine, which comes to $7,800 per month without med costs. The competition is killing here. As evidence let me note that when we started this sale Gracedale had a population in excess of 700 today that number has dropped to somewhere between 600-630. I know because I called today, 2/16/2011. In addition, for those who are not indigent the idividual signs over their pension and social security and if need be the family sells the house. And as to numbers in the rooms, 4 per room in the towers and 2-3 in the other areas that are still open.
The people who turned in petitions turned in illegal petitions. I spoke to one gal who told me that people from Saylorsburg wanted to sign said petitions but she didn't let them yet signatures from folks in Saylorsburg did show up on the petitions.
Baratta's decision will cause the council to open the budget, thus the impact on the charter. For all intents and purposes the Home Rule Charter should be tossed into the fire because it has lost a major element.
In the end this is all about the unions maintaining jobs and benefits to the tune of $66M a year for wages and benefits. The opposition lead by an e-mail minister who also works at Gracedale
If Gracedale is saved you will see a minimum of a 15% tax increase. In addition you will still have the swapthon to deal with as well as the Bond issue and a failing non-profitable Gracedale. Your school taxes are going to go up, in Nazareth we are looking at an increase anywhere between 2.5-7percent this year. My local tax is going up 6% and meanwhile, take a look around or ask the missus have grocery prices gone up. Florida orange growers are in trouble with a disease that turns the oranges salty and bitter. Orange juice could be a luxury item. Look at the commodities market. Clothing prices are up 10% Check butter prices, egg prices, the essentials and see what is happening.
Then tell me how want to save a failing facility that you could really put into jeporady because you wanted to keep pumping money into a rat hole and a year from now no one will want to buy it. If things really go bad the indigent will not have a home to stay in because the milk will no longer come from the public teat because it will have all dried up. Wake up and look at reality. We will not survie with our heads in a hole and a lack of will to do what is necessary. Right now the new buyer is willing to keep a seciton for the indigent. Most of the staff will remain and despite the oppositions commests, no one is going to be kicked out of Gracedale.
Part One
It seems pretty clear that the advocates of the Gracedale ballot initiative are so focused on the fact that Judge Baratta ruled in their favor they have missed the point that others have made about the legal issues. To be clear at the outset: I personally have not studied the intricate details of the Gracedale issue, particularly the financial numbers, to have a solid and informed opinion as to how County Council came to it's decision to sell the facility. I am not certain that is the right decision. I would need a lot more information to know if the right decision was made or not. But, if we were all being honest, virtually EVERYONE in this county would have to admit that they really don't have all of the facts and details about the Gracedale issue - enough that it would lead them to an informed decision.
For most Gracedale advocates, it’s pretty simple really. These people are: 1) Gracedale employees (or those very sympathetic to the employees); 2) relatives and friends of patients (current and former); or 3) County residents that are comforted by the fact that such a facility exists in case they ever need it. I respect their advocacy for what they believe in. But, frankly, these people are probably the least likely of anyone to make an honest and objective decision regarding closing Gracedale. I don't expect these advocates to be objective. For many of them, the issue is deeply personal.
What I do expect is that this issue will be decided within the confines of the law. Specifically, is this County Council's decision or not? (Home Rule issue) and did the advocates of the petition initiative follow the law? (are there enough legal signatures to get this on the ballot, assuming it is even a valid ballot question).
(continued – AMO)
Part Two
Regardless of your position on Gracedale, what we should expect from our Judiciary is fairness to the litigants, due diligence and research and a logical and intellectually honest opinion that follows the law of our Commonwealth. Sadly, in his opinions issued last week and this week, Judge Baratta failed miserably to live up to the standard. As an attorney, I have read many poor opinions. I can say that this is not among the most egregious ever. However, the opinion is illogical, poorly reasoned and does not follow the law.
Whats worse, even if you can disagree about his legal acumen (which is suspect at best), Judge Baratta can't even do simple arithmetic. Based on HIS OWN RULING, there aren't enough valid signatures to get the issue on the ballot. This is not to criticize all of the people who worked hard to get those signatures. But the math doesn't even add up. Judge Baratta follows up that opinion with one that is even worse regarding the Home Rule Charter. There, the judge's reasoning is even more tortured and poorly constructed. To be clear, the Judge got the law wrong - its really that simple. His opinion reads like that of a judge making excuses, not following precedent.
Again, it's not my intent to antagonize folks who really believe in keeping Gracedale. You have done what advocates are supposed to do. Its just that we should expect much better of our judges. This is a difficult decision. A proper application of the law would likely mean a very disappointing result for Gracedale advocates. This judge simply did not have the courage to make a call. Instead he punted, which is cowardly at best, but more likely stems from laziness and a reluctance to be seen as "opposing the masses".
(continued – AMO)
Part Three
The fact is that we elected people to make those decisions. On Gracedale, County Council has spoken. The recourse of the people, if they don't like their action is to vote them out. Plain and simple. This is exactly what reader "Brenda" was saying in her letter. She was unnecessarily attacked for making valid points. Sadly, all too often during this whole Gracedale debacle, advocates of the facility have failed to stick to the issues and make their case. Instead, many (but not all) have taken to verbally attacking those with a different point of view. I understand this is an issue that has brought out passionate advocates, but verbally assaulting those who disagree with you with personal attacks is not called for. It only suggests a weakness in your position and is the refuge of the small minded.
I don't think we are even close to a resolution of the Gracedale issue yet. There is likely much more to be said on this issue. I only hope that this debate will focus on the merits - by all means advocates, make your case. But leave the cheap shots and personal attacks out of it. That probably starts with something I have said here before: I think if you have something to say, don't be afraid to put your name to it. But what's worse is to make a cheap shot comment without having the guts to sign YOUR name.
Anthony Orlando, UMBT
Battle Cry,
Very well said and well written. What the Gracedale group does not want to believe is that there are thousands of people who want this facility sold and will share their voice if they have to on a ballot initiative, but are just as content to have council take action and execute the sale.
I am only one person who came onto this blog to agree with BO and now the flamethrowers are insisting that I am an invention. They are so outnumbered in the masses, but do not see it because they only associate with themselves. It does not belong on the ballot, but if its there, I will slam the NO button in the polling booth...hope I dont break the machine
Hey Brenda
I collected over 700 unchallenged signatures
I could count on 1 hand the amount of refusals to sign
And I will say maybe 1 or so dozen voiced their opinion of that to want to sell
can you please tell me where you are gathering your information
besides in here?
I think you will be unpleasantly suprised if this makes it on the ballot
why do you think these people
BO and Angle keep trying to keep it off
THEY KNOW
as a newbe in here you seem to have taken an extra heapin' helpin' of the Koolaide
it is just you who is left in the dark
I don't think I'll be responding to your comments any longer
that is until you educate yourself on the issue
Dear anon 4:31,
I can tell you that I am very well educated on this matter and if you choose to post lies that I dont know what I am talking about then that is your choice.
By trying to remain anonymous, as you are too, I wont give out specifics because I will risk losing anonymity if I do that. I try to keep in mind that I would say to anyone's face the things that I write, and hope not to offend others.
As to my knowing that the initiative will fail, well, I do not do hokus pokus nor am I equipped to rig an election, but every interaction I have had with other voters leads back to the same conclusion. It will never, ever pass muster.
The inflated rat mentality has been fading away for many years, and the DEMS took a beating last November. The question has absolutely no purpose on an election ballot, and the judge will very likely be reversed on appeal.
Dear anon 4:31,
I can tell you that I am very well educated on this matter and if you choose to post lies that I dont know what I am talking about then that is your choice.
By trying to remain anonymous, as you are too, I wont give out specifics because I will risk losing anonymity if I do that. I try to keep in mind that I would say to anyone's face the things that I write, and hope not to offend others.
As to my knowing that the initiative will fail, well, I do not do hokus pokus nor am I equipped to rig an election, but every interaction I have had with other voters leads back to the same conclusion. It will never, ever pass muster.
The inflated rat mentality has been fading away for many years, and the DEMS took a beating last November. The question has absolutely no purpose on an election ballot, and the judge will very likely be reversed on appeal.
Dems took beating
country is already experiencing "buyers remorse" on that one
Put it on the ballot
you'll win
we'll see
are you saying there is voter fraud in the county elections?
prehaps you should share this info with the DA or state elections board
you know those types of allegations will lead to your identity being revealed if the right people hear about them
ask "old man" on the Topix forum
the secret service paid him a visit and he has been AWOL ever since
thanks to alert citizens like me
and BO enjoy your audit
Rat out a tax cheat, collect a reward
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"In a down economy, the temptation to cheat on taxes is much stronger because people are in more desperate situations more often," said Bill Raabe, a tax expert at Ohio State University's business school.
Informants are required to complete a claim and mail it to the IRS. The form is available on the IRS Web site, or you can call the agency's fraud hotline at 1-800-829-0433 for instructions. While you must reveal your identity to the IRS, your name will not be made public.
And allow me to say you can do this as an anon coward
If the goons who terrify old people by telling them and their families they'll be tossed to the street ask me to sign something, your damn right I'll sign. I'd be afraid of what they'd do to me if I refused. Then, I'd run to the polls to vote against the selfish, heartless bastards who make Gracedale patients take one for the organized labor team. Public service unions are gutless and wouldn't exist without one party counting on them for votes. This is not what organized labor fought to achieve in the last century. It's a bastardized version that puts throws bones at takers in exchange for their reliable votes. Gutless.
However Anon, what you are missing is that there is a very clear distinction between tax evasion and tax fraud. The Govt likes to find Karoly style cases so that the investigation pays for itself.
If you are a reward seeker similar to those citizens who seek philadelphia shithole status in federal lawsuits and shop for ways to hit the lottery, the burden of proof is yours and discovering evidence gets very expensive.
The IRS ignores flamethrowers
The so-called facts posted by the baggers and fringe Republicans on this subject are just echo's of the propaganda pushed by Stoffa and Angle.
Their financial numbers have been shown to be false. the four to a room issue is a desperate attempt to create an issue where there is none.
Yes, by all means lets vote. You bagger Repub's only hang with each other. At bars and restaurants I go to the vast majority of people who actually vote are voting to save Gracedale.
Sorry, but do keep spinning.Call me Bob. like Brenda I dare not identify myself.
We all know that Ron Angle is a crooked politician, facing a fraudelent will and accepting cash from the prison group, and these are just things that make the paper! Him and John Stoffa are just a bunch of white collar criminals who are pushing there agenda on the public to sell gracedale or taxes get raised. Since when do you ever remember taxes going down, pretty much every year they go up regardless.Might as well be for a moral obligation to elderly who are now in the position that need help financially,.PROPAGANDA MY FRIENDS,DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD RON ANGLE OR JOHN STOFFA SAYS...BUNCH OF FATCATS WHO NEED TO BE VOTED OUT!!!! QUESTION AUTHORITY!!!!! Hank Chinowski
bob (on this) is obsessed with things scrotal. is this what we want taking care of our old folks? They'll be eating dog food and grabbing their ankles for the brotherhood.
solidarnosc
I can't understand why it is so wrong to put an issue like Gracedale on the ballot. Is letting registered, presumably vetted, actual citizens have a say in how they want a portion of their tax dollars so terrible?
Government of the people, by the people, for the people.
If the possibility of increasing taxes because of Gracedale bothers you, say "no". If you agree that it is good government for the country to provide for those in need of this type of facilities, vote "yes".
What am I missing here?
ha! ha!
The Govt likes to find Karoly style cases so that the investigation pays for itself
my reward is simple incarcerate the bum
and its truly is funny you bring up the Karoly case
anyone want to fill poor Brenda in on the Karoly story as it applies to our dear friend?
Kudos, Bernie, for hosting such great entertainment! I'm so naive...I didn't know that there were so many whackos out there.
Can MM have as many posting personalities as he accuses you of doing?
Bernie did I open a can with the Karoly comment? I hope I didnt insult you. Aside from the tax fraud that killed him, if he were still practicing,
I am afraid it would be death for all citizens because municipal police forces as we know them would be extinct
I think the man was probably an excellent lawyer , but got too overzealous, and became the target of scrutiny.
A wise person always told me to fly high, but not above the radar
Brenda, The Karoly comment did not bother me. I doubt it bothers John, either. Good advertising.
When did Tom Tosti show up at the county council meeting...what a mug shot!
"Can MM have as many posting personalities as he accuses you of doing?"
He's graduated from that. He's now implying that when I wrote about Angle's campaign finance, I deliberately withheld a $3,000 contribution from GEO.
I wrote about Angle's campaign finance several weeks ago,and noted a $500 contribution from Eckert Seamans, the law firm involved in Gracedale's sale. I also noted $1,500 or some such figure from Ramzi Haddad. Haddad is Abe Atiyeh's partner and wants to contract with the County for a treatment center.
I noted these and condemned them, but failed to mention GEO bc I did not see it. Had I seen it, I would have mentioned it along with the others. The question I would ask is why MM does not get off s lazy ass and start looking at some campaign finance reports himself.
I tend to condemn this kind of thing for all local candidates from either party.
I also wrote about a $20,000 contribution to Morganelli from Peter Angelos, who employs Lamont McClure. McClure's wife is an assistant DA.
Despite the fact that this is nearly ten times larger and Morganelli does employ McClure's wife, Angle gets hammers for a $3,000 contribution from someone he ended up voting against.
It's ALL wrong and should ALL be noted, not just one person.
"When did Tom Tosti show up at the county council meeting...what a mug shot!"
Two weeks ago, He was there to save Gracedale "Hospital."
Did you know I used to be married to Tom? He was my first husband....cant believe he was in town and didnt stop over
I think he gets aggravated that I leave a dish of rat poison on my doorstep. It really helps with the mosquitos
We often had differences of opinion. If I look around the house, I may be able to find some wedding photos, or...oops, there goes that identity problem again
That may be blown now.
"His opinion reads like that of a judge making excuses, not following precedent."
That's it! It's the best, and shortest, explanation of Judge Baratta's decision that I've read. Thanks.
Well, on a better topic, who took the fishing trip photo with Pektor, Callaham and Tenges?
I honestly don't know who snapped it. It just fell out of the sky and hit me on the head.
Definately understood
Before people scramble out of control, it was nothing more than a cyberblog joke.
No ex-husbands on my record
Probably no birth certificate either.
I enjoyed reading these comments. Just what I needed after 10 hours of work!
The Battle Cry Of Freedom
I sort of remember the phrase
" RAT HOLE " and hearing the financial problems of the world when all we are interested in is Gracedale.And also people telling us to keep our family at home and care for them ..when in fact their own Mother is sitting in a nursing home. Another thing knocking the union's when they themself collect a union pention and work at the same time. Why don't they stay home and let someone that needs a job have it instead of collecting unemployment? " Don't do as I do -
do as I say.
The bagger movement and the "patriotic" decal and novelty shirt crowd are hypocrites if nothing else.
Their rants about the cost of Gracedale and the "4 per room" evil and all the other "Soviet style" propaganda is just that.
One of their spokesman who screams of evil public pensions, collects his own teacher public pension.
It goes on and on. By the way there is a bridge the County is fixing up north in Bangalore that I never cross. I demand my tax money not go to those people. Want the bridge fixed for your family, fix it yourself. I don't use the bridge.
You frickin socialists you!
Sigmund Fraud
"By Bernie's oft-repeated logic from past posts, this Brenda girl is a coward for anonymously criticizing this judge without coming forward and identifying herself."
Agreed
Anonymous 12:19AM
Don't know who you are talking about but as to the Rat Hole comment it goes back many decades as in "sending your money to Washington DC is like throwing it down a RAT HOLE." My mother is not in a nursing home and will not be because I promised her I would keep her at my home. She took care of me for many years and I intend to do that for her. Obviously you will not be doing the same.
Anonymous aka Sigmund Freud
Call Gracedale and find out the daily cost of staying. Ask them about taking assets. Find out the number of residents. Then come back and tell us how great this place is. It is going to go broke and when it does we will lose an asset that could have helped us lower our deficit. Meanwhile you will contiune to pay the debt incurred by Gracedale and it will not be in operation. The move of a brillant scholar
No offense Einstein aka Battle Hymn but if someone goes to ANY nursing home they will charge back against your insurance and any assets until they are forced to be fully medicaid funded.
You folks really have to do a better job of fact checking. That is why the bagger movement will never crack the 30% of crazy number.
Buy and read a book not recommended or written by a host of one of the Fox Channel infomercials.
Harry Hunt
""By Bernie's oft-repeated logic from past posts, this Brenda girl is a coward for anonymously criticizing this judge without coming forward and identifying herself."
Except that her attack is not personal.
Don't know who you are talking about but as to the Rat Hole comment it goes back many decades as in "sending your money to Washington DC is like throwing it down a RAT HOLE." My mother is not in a nursing home and will not be because I promised her I would keep her at my home. She took care of me for many years and I intend to do that for her. Obviously you will not be doing the same.
Physician
"heal thyself"
Should we start calling you
Dr. Battle Cry
no
that would be like calling Bernie
Attorney Ohare
although a noble jesture
you might need to re think and explain to mom
that changing her diaper, purchasing a dialysis machine,
dispensing controlled substances, changing her position to avoid bedsores, CPR for a code red, deposal of bio hazardous waste .....etc...etc...
is not what you had in mind
keep trying soon you'll come up with the next best reason to sell the place
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