The problems started with judges up for retention with simple "Yes" or "No" votes along the right side of the ballot. Some of the machines were sensitive, especially with those questions. They issued court orders throughout the day, resulting in calls and text messages from the elections office to election judges, instructing election judges to inform voters that if they had any issues, they were to notify election workers. Constables even served election judges with a court order concerning these retention races.
In addition, turnout was 27.68%, which was unexpectedly high for a municipal race. In some districts with contested races, it was much higher. Voters would have to wait. In an instant gratification society, this means some people would start complaining. The scapegoat for this wait was not the turnout, but the new machines. These new machines do take longer to operate than a simple touchscreen. For most people, it takes only 30-60 seconds longer, but that was long enough to make people start blaming the machines. I have received some reports of paper jams and other problems, but can attest there were no such issues in my precinct or the one next to me. I did poll about 30 voters about their experience with the new machine. Some did have some minor complaints about the sensitivity, but all reported they were able to vote without incident. Most people dislike and distrust computers, but liked the paper back-up. "That's a lot better than the politicians doing their thing," said one.
Common pleas judges were worried about their retention races, but I was confident in the new system. This all came to a sudden end when the polls closed and I printed out reports for the two machines I was using. Both of my machines showed that Steve Salvesen, a long-time Hanover Township Supervisor who lives in my district and presumably voted for himself, received no votes. They also showed judicial candidate Abe Kassis had zero votes. I knew this had to be wrong.
On my way to the courthouse, I was wondering what the hell I had done wrong. Then I began receiving reports from other judges who were experiencing the same issue. Yesterday, Lamont McClure said it was a county-wide problem.
When we run reports, we also remove encrypted flash drives from the machines and return them to the courthouse. My assumption was that these flash drives would show the actual count. Yesterday, ES&S Exec VP Adam Carbullido said that the flash drives showed the same erroneous results as appeared on the printouts.
When Executive McClure was made aware that Democrat Abe Kassis was getting no votes in Easton's blue wards, he sought and obtained permission from the state to scan the paper ballots. That count continued throughout the night, in the presence of candidates and their attorneys. The tabulation was finished around 5:30 am.
"We cannot have any difficulties with this system," said McClure, who added he was very disappointed with ESandS, manufacturer of The Express Vote XL. But he blamed himself. "[T]his is one of my responsibilities," he said. "To the voters yesterday who had difficulty casting their ballots, I am sorry. We will do better. To the candidates, their families and supporters who were unnecessarily made anxious by this process, I am sorry."
A chastened Carbullido also apologized to Northampton County voters and officials, claiming his company is committed to ensuring it never occurs again. He has "a high degree of confidence" in the tabulation of the paper ballots. But amazingly, "we don't know the root cause of the issue."
"How can you have a high degree of confidence that the results are accurate when you don't know what the root cause of your problem is?" I asked. Carbullido responded the paper ballots tabulated accurately, and I am sure they did. But how does he know these individual paper ballots are actually what appeared on the screen? He later admitted the flash drives contained the same errors that led to the obviously erroneous printouts, so how can he or anyone be sure the paper ballots are actually what the voters cast?
Carbullido would later say that "logic and accuracy" testing was done before these machines were put in use. This is done to ensure software has been set up properly to accurately count the specific ballots for that election. Obviously, this testing was botched.
In addition to the failure to test this setup, elections officials also improperly excluded Morning Call reporter Riley Yates from the scanning of the paper ballots on Tuesday night. McClure apologized to Yates and said he might have made a different decision. He said at that time elections officials were dealing with a "three-alarm raging fire." But as Yates noted, there can be no public confidence in a vote that is counted behind closed doors.
The public is permitted to attend the canvassing of the vote.
At this point, it's unclear whether Republicans will challenge this and problems occurring in other counties. Legally, there is little chance of success because of a strong public interest in finality of elections and a legal presumption of validity. But even a losing effort would be politically beneficial to the GOP.
McClure has honorably blamed himself. So has Adam Carbullido. But there's one person who really is to blame for this entire mess and no one has mentioned him. It is Governor Tom Wolf who ordered all 67 counties to get new voting systems with a voter verifiable paper trail. It is Wolf who ordered they be in place by 2020. It is Wolf who vetoed a bill to reimburse the county for 60% of the cost. It is Wolf who suddenly did an about face and agreed to that bill, but only after most counties dug into their pockets to buy $3 million systems to replace others with a few years of life still left in them.
Updated 9:43 am: Philly had sensitivity issues with ExpressVote XL. - At yesterday's news conference, ESandS Exec VP Adam Carbullido said he had heard of no complaints about the ExpressVote XL from other counties. WHYY is reporting, however, that there were problems in Philadelphia:
The complaints varied on the controversial machines. Across the city, some complained about the touch screen’s sensitivity, in which it changed their selections, while others found the font of the printed ballot too small to read. Some glitches put machines out of commission for a few hours.
Emma Tramble from West Philadelphia said the booth was so dark that she could hardly see the candidates she was selecting.
She added that people at her polling place had to wait a long time to vote, which she attributes to a combination of people getting used to the new machines and others not being familiar with the election itself.
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Hopefully none of these candidates will have a cloud cast of their candidacy. Everyone said that Morganelli was a shoe-in and I tend to believe that. But like you pointed out, how can the paper ballots be trusted that they printed what the voter selected on the touchscreens. I remember when Callahan was a shoe-in for County Executive. Good luck and I hope they find a great solution and quickly.
Canned vague apology. He read from a prepared script and when when pressed he was his bristly, prickly thin skinned self. You love him, everyone knows that but the video was clear. He gave a bs answer to the reporter about how a reporter is not the public. Also he made sure to single out Atty Snover.
The company man came off bad and was about as informative as a chair. Hopefully, the county council can convince them how this is truly unacceptable
By the way wasn't Amy Cozze the machine expert? Apparently she is now kept out of everyone's sight but Dertinger.
In hindsight, testing a sampling of the machines with actual ballots would have revealed the problem before the machines were distributed to the polling areas.
The test ballots were simple and large. The actual ballots were very small and confusing. This appears to be a collaborative fuk up by the voters office and the machine makers. Need real world tests by average folks. Why didn't Amy ad company think of this??
4:45. Exactly! What are those strips going to look like next year when there are A LOT more races? The font will be much smaller and even harder to read and align with the office and candidate you voted for. Bad choice by McClure. I hear Lehigh County's hand cast ballots went smoothly...and they cost 1 million less.
"But there's one person who really is to blame for this entire mess and no one has mentioned him." ... Bernie, I have to respectfully disagree with putting this statement. Granted I think the state should have picked, and paid for, one uniform voting system. That said, he had nothing to do with the choices made by NorCo for this specific machine. Besides this tabulation mess, I and the person using the machine in front of me, had an issue with our first ballots being printed but then spit out, and the machine saying it could not read the ballot (and no, it was not because I changed any of my votes on that round, as suggested yesterday. I obviously can not speak for the guy in front me). Other issues I had... the machine was too sensitive. On my second round of voting, my coat sleeve must have been too close to the screen so as I was voting with my finger in the Dem column, it initially registered a Repub vote, which I had to change. When I went to then vote for the correct Dem person (Kassis), it initially cancelled out the two people above him, and I had to repress them. With all of those changes, it did accept my second round of voting. Also, and I heard this from several co-workers as well, trying to read the ballot with the lighting, dark curtains and small print was difficult to see through the glass. Hey, I know $3 million was spent so they are not going to change, but I do not have great confidence going into next year with these machines. If Trump loses NorCo, I can just see a challenge from the GOP. And it was taking people longer than an extra 30 to 60 seconds. Perhaps that was owing to the newness, and no instructions being given beyond, stick it in the slot and follow on screen directions. For example, somebody in another area told me they were instructed to tap on the name, rather than trying to tap on the check box. Hopefully this year's roll out experience doesn't dissuade anyone from voting next year.
I would glad to help test machines . I would be a good candidate as I’m a super voter, over 65 without perfect eye sight or hearing ,I’m also lacking in electronics and computer shills and probably fall about average otherwise among readers here in daily issues. And -generally, if something screws up ,it will happen to me. So I volunteer. Anybody remember the signs at the 78-287 split ? Morristown left lane (placed on South side of spite .) 287 South was on North side of split well electronics are the same for elderly folks.
In Lower Nazareth Township, it took me 45 minutes just to get to the machine. I arrived at 1:30 PM. At this pace, I better pack a lunch when voting in next years presidential election -- expect to be there hours!!
GOVERMENT does it again it will not improve it will continue down hill--third world status--the politicians are bad bad news
I am not convinced that the votes were correct. I for one did not hit one that registered on the screen and ballot. I have NO faith in the system. What does one suspect when the have a clerical tech vet it! McClure out in 2021!
McClure F'd up again with his class of clowns. I witnessed and elderly lady have so many problems voting that she finally gave up and left in tears finally refusing to vote. Is that what McArs wants to happen when it comes his turn.
I waited 55 minutes in a LAMONT LINE. You can tell how rich and heartless he is when you see how he inconvenienced people who actually work for a living. What an insufferable incompetent. Go away, Lamont. Get the eff out of working peoples' way. Why do you hate us? I'm certain LAMONT LINES are the new, new in NorCo. We knew we were electing a slothful incompetent who barely showed up for the first job he was given. That was made clear on this blog. We get what we deserve. We were warned - by Bernie, no less.
anonymous 7:16 is indeed an asshole. He is a sick individual.
I believe you are right. He had a kid that was not talented enough to make the ALL STAR team so he needs to blame someone else for his own child's shortcomings.
Anonymous Peterjcochran said...
I would glad to help test machines . I would be a good candidate as I’m a super voter, over 65 without perfect eye sight or hearing ,I’m also lacking in electronics and computer shills and probably fall about average otherwise among readers here in daily issues. And -generally, if something screws up ,it will happen to me. So I volunteer. Anybody remember the signs at the 78-287 split ? Morristown left lane (placed on South side of spite .) 287 South was on North side of split well electronics are the same for elderly folks.
November 7, 2019 at 6:04 AM
The above writer is correct in the debacle voters endured Tuesday in Lehigh and Northampton counties. Many voters could not read the paper ballots in Lehigh. Why did Northampton allow machines and Lehigh forced voters to use paper? Someone needs to investigate.
If anything, we learned that digital machines are ultimatly programmed by someone; and if the code is wrong, the machine will spit out inaccurate numbers. To avoid such a fraud, a paper copy is a must! Thank goodness for the paper ballot trail.
In NorCo, you get to SEE your printed paper ballot before you Cast your vote. Awesome idea that works. As for the clown or clowns that didnt program the machine calculator to properly tally the votes, he should be canned.
Blaming Wolf? You lost me there. Your article was great, until the end. And it isnt McClures fault or NorCo...its the vendor. ES&S...shame shame shame. Maybe the contract can be broken and we get the ones Lehigh is using?
After hearing of all the problems these machines had; maybe they should send them all back and have them tested and re-tested to eliminate and issues before next year comes around. If the issues arise during the primaries then eliminate these machines and bring the old ones back for the November elections next year and get a refund on these.
An absolute disgrace.
I blame the Russians.
@8:28
I blame old white men.
I agree with Bernie, this problem is Wolf and Harrisburg. The past machines were fine. They were alleged to be tampered with during 2016, never proven. Now our county must spend millions on a questionable advancement. Voters in the entire state will wait in "Lamont Lines" (that was funny) because SCANNING PAPER TAKES LONGER! Again, it's not Northampton to blame, contact your Deep State Swamp representatives of Harrisburg.
Executive McClure took responsibility for the election, which he should have. I would expect ES&S Exec VP Adam Carbullido to say what he said. ES&S has made a lot of money in PA lately. ES&S will try to keep NorCo as a customer. The integrity of the election(s) is/are sacrosanct; therefore, the machines must be ready, they were obviously not. There is no acceptable excuse. Especially for the investment by the taxpayers.
"Yesterday, ES&S Exec VP Adam Carbullido said that the flash drives showed the same erroneous results as appeared on the printouts." That's scary.
"In hindsight, testing a sampling of the machines with actual ballots would have revealed the problem before the machines were distributed to the polling areas."
As I understand, the logic and accuracy testing is precisely that. According to ES&S, he had his "top notch" people on it, but it's pretty clear they messed up. EVERY function has to be tested. This would include running the reports and printing the actual results. The county made a decision before the last budget to shed a technician who maintained the machines at Gracedale. I believe the county probably needs someone to test each machine.
"Blaming Wolf? You lost me there. Your article was great, until the end. And it isnt McClures fault or NorCo...its the vendor. ES&S...shame shame shame. Maybe the contract can be broken and we get the ones Lehigh is using?"
Well, it's pretty simple, although it has received scant coverage. It is Wolf who (1) ordered all 67 counties to have new machines in place with a voter verifiable paper trail; (2) ordered these machines in place for the 2020 election, without regard to the burden this placed on counties: (3) failed to provide any funding; (4) vetoed a bill that would have reimbursed 60% of the cost, meaning that counties like Northampton had to dip into their rainy day funds; (5) finally relented and signed a bill AFTER most counties had spent the money.
I agree that voter verifiable paper trails are a must, but there was no reason to rush into it. Since the counties are spending most of the money, he should have allowed for a phased-in transition.
Had a more gradual approach been permitted, we would still be using the older touchscreens.
" And it was taking people longer than an extra 30 to 60 seconds. Perhaps that was owing to the newness, and no instructions being given beyond, stick it in the slot and follow on screen directions."
Perhaps I am mistaken, but I actually timed several people. In most cases, it took about three minutes. This was a bit longer than the previous system. My estimate (I never timed people on the other machine) is that it was 30-60 seconds.
If you really think this is an issue, we should probably have more machines at the polls.
The touch sensitive screen machines do indeed meet the letter of the law. They do have a verifiable paper trail as required. The chosen machine coverts voter choices into bar codes. What is printed for the voter to see and inspect is the programmable interpretation of the voters choices. That is why it is very important for the voter to verify his/her printed ballot. Most of the voters at our poll did inspect their ballot this time. That is what is counted if needed. The only way to guarantee the actual vote of the voter in a recount would be with a hand checked paper ballot. Of course, that process would be much more challenging to implement in most aspects and the chosen voting system from ES&S is the most like the previous voting machine, which makes the transition easier. This purchase by NoCo was rushed and not explored enough. I do not know who is at fault. It is a good thing that NorCo implemented the new voting system during a municipal election and not a presidential election cycle. There is time to fix the identified issues. IMHO
"I believe the county probably needs someone to test each machine."
I agree.
Article in the MCall was good. However, at my polling place where I voted at 5:00 p.m. none of the poll workers was cautioning or saying anything about potential difficulties that voters should look for and ask for help or report even though the judges order said they should. I was glad to read that Dertinger got his ass handed to him by Barrata because he tried to blame voters for the problem even though there was clearly a problem with the machines regarding Kassis race and others. Again, what about how difficult it is going to be next year when there are many more races to try to fit on that paper ballot slip? Font size and alignment are going to be a real issue.
There will be less races next year.
Next year, and for the foreseeable future, we will linger in Lamont Lines. He wanted his name on something. There you go. An MC reporter tweeted that media was barred from the recount and only the public was permitted. Sounds like a blue ribbon shit show.
I covered that in this story, which you apparently failed to read.
" at my polling place where I voted at 5:00 p.m. none of the poll workers was cautioning or saying anything about potential difficulties that voters should look for and ask for help or report even though the judges order said they should."
Where did you vote?
Read the article in the Call about the judges. It was fair and accurate. You continue to cover for McClure but the judges made the best points. They were not as easily swayed by the swill form Detindger.
This was terrible and McClure's press conference/monologue did nothing to make things better.
Please go back to being objective and not attacking people who are bringing you real world problems with these machines. Don't blame the voters as the Dertingner did in court.
Forks Elementary
Also talked to folks that voted in LowerNazareth and Bethlehem Township who were given no such heads up about retention yes/no and no instruction. They were given the ballot and told to read instructions period.
My guess is that election judges who fAiled to follow the court order simply forgot at different times. As someone who knows what can happen, I followed it but may have forgotten fro time to time. I sure as hell hope not, lol
I post stuff with my name because I I’m not affected by retibubtions of integrity.. if you don’t like me say so and post your name . I hide nothing. .
SOB should resign.
It's all in the grand scheme of ruthless, power-hungry Democrats to eventually take over the entire government. One day there will be no Republican party, and we will live under a totalitarian system.
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