When the PHA fired the cretin, AFSCME went to bat for him. He was wearing the union label.
Although the arbitrator agreed that the behavior was perverse, he ruled that the PHA lacked "just cause" to dump the bum.
AFSCME actually argued that no public policy would be served by sacking this predator.
Public sector unions. Gotta' love 'em.
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Are Stoffa's sexdual jokes to women considered Sexual Harssment?
That's the problem with public unions. They fight ridiculous fights. If you want to stand up to protect your people from bad management that's one thing. But to fight for this guy just justifies the unions negative image and shows how silly they can really be.
Are you joking here Bernie.
Maybe he should have asked to eat her dog.
If the harasser is male, he should fired. If the harasser is female, that's hot!
AFSCME + welfare recipients = same thing (i.e. lazy beggars on the dole).
I keep reading about accidents in NYC construction. Cranes falling and dropping loads. Also 40+guys doing shots over lunch at ground zero.A dozen inspectors on the taketo ok shoddy work.
Tell me again about union superioity in construction safety?
Public sector unions are no worse than private.
If this incident was as bad as you say , then why did the NEUTRAL arbitrator rule in this worker's favor??? You couldn't possibly be leaving out some information Bernie, do to your love of public unions ?? If a worker challenges a reprimand or firing the union is duty bound to defend him no matter what the charge is..If they ended up winning the case , then I'd have to believe it wasnt nearly as egregious as you say. Surprise there..
When you pay "union Dues" the union is OBLIGATED BY LAW to represent you no matter how serious the offense (as long as it is job related). Murder is another issue. Failure for the unions to represent someone would put the union in jeopardy of a law suit and they would definetley lose. I don't care much for unions but in some cases or issues their hands are tied. I'm sure some of these cases leave a bitter taste in their mouth, but the law is the law.
"Are you joking here Bernie."
No joke.
9:34, I can cite numerous instances in which AFSCME refused to file a grievance, to say nothing of going to the Supreme Court, when it knows that the employee is in the wrong. It has no obligation to represent a member who is being ridiculous.
9:27, That's bc, as i said before, these arbitrators are NOT neutral. They are either pro-union or they sit in the office, waiting for the phone to ring. This case illustrates what is wrong with public sector unions and what is wrong with the ridiculous arbitration system.
So Bernie, when you were accused of your wrong doings, you didn't hire representation? You didn't try to fight the discipline you were facing?
This is how it works, someone is accused of something, they seek representation. It is up to the PHA in this case to present evidence. There case could not have been very strong because it was ruled they didn't have "just cause" to terminate.
Maybe your issue here, and all the other union bashers should be blaming the arbitrator that made the ruling. After all the arbitrator is selected and agreed upon by both sides, and their ruling is honored.
Your issue is with the arbitrators ruling, and not the union.
Even though your crimes Bernie were very clear, I am sure you still sought representation and attempted to defend yourself. Since when is that a bad thing?
This is a stretch on your part to bash the unions, great attempt, but a huge failure on your part.
Try again!!
Blah, blah, blah. As I already said, the arbitrators are union goons, too. If they do not rule in their favor, they get no calls. AFSCME made a terrible decision in giving this guy any representation, and you defend it. No surprise there.
Unions, particularly public sector unions, have become nothing less than a legitimate laughing stock.
In the private sector, the sexual harasser is toast and that is the end of the story.
Defending the indefensible, that is all 11:34 is engaged in.
Those massive salaries and other valuable perks that Union Representatives receive while schools go without textbooks, city pools go witout water, etc., must be justified no matter what.
HELLO WISCONSIN!
That's irony.
Pulling the Class Warfare Card on the public sector unions.
But, they deserve every bit of it.
Live by the sword, die by the sword?
Thank Go for the right to belong to Unions. I can remember when my father worked at the B.Steel Co. and used to come home from the work place because he wasn't selected by the foreman to stay and work eight hours. The guy who stayed and got paid that day brought a small ham into the foreman. My dad came home. Unions put a stop to this kind of discrimination. I have never seen so many Union Bashers spitting forth such venom as on this Blog. If you want to belong to a union it should be your choice. If you want to work for someone who doesn't give you a fair competitive wage, or a holiday off, or any vacation, or a sick day or two, then stay where your at. I feel compassion for you sorry asses but that is your right to work for a shit head that doesn't care about anyone but himself. God Bless America and the Unions that made America great.
AFSCME is a pushiver nad will roll wiht whoever the party tells them to support.
Anonymous 8:56pm,
for your information, there are public employees that are rocket scientist! They range from microbiologists to bus driver, to janitors. So please stop saying that we are dumb,uneducated people.. and we sure aren't whores, unlike some of the trolls on this blog!!!!!!
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