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Monday, June 23, 2025

Irani Attack Was in US Nat'l Security Interests

Northampton County approved a number of livable landscape grants and have awarded a contract for a new parking deck at the courthouse campus, but those stories will have to wait until tomorrow.

On Saturday evening, US B-2 stealth bombers launched precision strikes at three Irani nuclear sites, including the underground site at Fordow. Not only was this attack justified, but it was in the interest of our own national security. six American warplanes dropped 12 30,000-lb GBU-57 massive ordnance penetrator (MOP) bunker-busting bombs on Fordow

According to the Institute for the Study of War, satellite imagery of Fordow from June 22 shows six probable entry-point craters on top of a ridge above the underground complex that houses two halls of at least 2000 centrifuges. These were producing nearly enough highly enriched uranium to fuel one nuclear weapon per month. Initial Israeli assessments indicate that US strikes did not destroy but inflicted serious damage. Iran may have moved materials and equipment from the site ahead of the strike. A senior US official similarly said that the US strikes did not destroy but severely damaged the Fordow nuclear site and took it “off the table.”

Was it the right thing to do?  Opinion is divided in both parties. 

House Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that Trump acted unconstitutionally and has given the House grounds for yet another impeachment. But the attack was praised by Democratic Senators John Fetterman and Josh Gottheimer.

Republican congressional leadership lined up behind Trump.  But there are voices in the isolationist MAGA movement, like Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Greene Taylor, who condemn our involvement in yet another foreign war.

I believe this strike was an absolute necessity and in our own national security interests. Iran's raison d'etre since 1979 has been to promote a Shia version of an Islamic revolution, including state-sponsored terror by the 3 Hs - Houtis, Hamas and Hezbollah.  It has been a driving force behind international instability. 

British journalist Matthew Syed, whose father was a Pakistani immigrant, makes the case at Triggernometry. Here are some excerpts. 

"The doctrine of mutually assured destruction is what prevents people with nuclear bombs from initiating the first strike, because they worry that in the counter stripe they will be eliminated. So it's a very strong doctrine that even though there are nuclear weapons in the world, we have not yet, thankfully, be subject to a nuclear holocaust."

But Iran, unlike most countries, has no interest in the mutually assured destruction doctrine because they are religious fanatics.  

"They believe that they have absolute truth, many of them in the regime, and that anyone who disagrees with them by implication are infidels, and, moreover, they glorify martyrdom, they believe that if they can take out infidels, they will go through a door, into heaven, and be blessed for eternity." 

"A lot of people don't seem to know about the 20,000 child martyrs who are indoctrinated by the fanatics and the clerics who took over after the ' 79 Revolution to believe that the greatest duty they could perform for Allah was to walk and sometimes run into minefields and up against machine gun fire, to clear a path for the adult military coming in behind, and they died, their limbs strewn across battlefields, and they were then glorified in government propaganda , held up as icons of the Revolution. 

"The fact that the people who are supposed to protect [children] indoctrinated them into what is effectively a death cult seems to me very good evidence, in addition to all the more contemporaneous stuff, - the repression of women, the killing of people who have a sexual [difference], the funding of genocidal proxies committed to the elimination of Israel -  tells me that if they got a nuclear weapon, it is likely they would use it. 

"I could envision an aging fanatical leader initiating a first strike and then looking at the radar screen and seeing the inevitable response in which that person would die in thinking that I am closer to Allah. I don't think that that is true of Vladimir Putter. I don't think Putin is prepared to die for his ideology. He's a venal corrupt leader, of the old school. He's worth billions. He had a Black Sea palace, he's got a young girlfriend . He wants to live. I think the same is true of the North Korean leader, with this ham and his looted opulence. It is not true of religious fundamentalists who glorify martyrdom. 

"Nuclear weapons, potentially 9 or 10 nuclear devices being held by a militarian cult that is committed to the destruction of Israel and calls America the Great Satan. A nuclear war of that kind, even if it occurred between Israel and Iran, would kill hundreds of millions of people around the world."  

So yeah, eliminating Iran as a nuclear threat is in our own national security. If Canadian wildfire smoke can travel to France and interfere with the Criterium du Dauphine, there is little doubt in my mind that the nuclear fallout of a nuclear winter involving as few as 15 nuclear bombs following an exchange between Israel and Iran would kill millions worldwide.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Trump is a true leader not a politician

Anonymous said...

Too bad Harris wasn't President.

Anonymous said...

A case study displaying what a lifetime of propaganda has the capability of accomplishing. You are completely brain washed with our governments talking points. I'm mostly terrified but a little impressed.

Anonymous said...

Yes, the decision to attack Iran’s nuclear capability was the right decision for the Trump administration to make. I am pleased President Trump showed the kind of courage and leadership strength to make such a call. Our world is a safer place without having unnecessary nuclear capability in the hands of the world’s largest sponsor of terrorism.

Keep in mind, this step was NOT about killing the Iranian people. This was about taking out facilities used to harm others. It was a masterful, controlled operation of constraint by America.

By the way, there was nothing unconstitutional about this act. Even so, the Democrats will ride that claim right through to the next election. Best to just ignore.

Barbaric terrorism around the world against innocent people will not end unfortunately. But, this move by America will give nations who support such savagery some pause and reduce such incidents going forward.

Anonymous said...

Keep drinking the kool-aid, You know nothing about Iran, its religion, or its culture, only the propaganda that has effectively demonized Iran since 1979. The real problem with Iran was that it took control of its oil reserves for the US and Uk, and they have been trying to topple the government ever since. Just like they toppled the elected government in 1953, that was not a religious government. It was labeled a communist government, the label of the time.

The reality is that the U.s. has attacked 8 middle east government in the last 15 years. The U.S. or the Uk still controls the oil of Iraq, Syria and Libya, and now hopefully Iran. No matter that ese enterprises have resulted in millions of deaths and destabilized much of the world. One can only assume that greed and keeping them destabilized is the real goal.

Anonymous said...

This is exactly what people were saying to justify the Iraq War. They were wrong then. You're wrong now.

Anonymous said...

So ..... we had to do it to prevent the development of "weapons of mass destruction?" You dopes will never learn. Good grief. Such idiocy and naivete. How do we know there were nukes? How do we know there are no more? How do we know the attack was successful? Oh that's right. The Trump administration said so. Hegseth even invoked Jesus. It must be true. Lol.

Anonymous said...

7:08 - Yes, the claims must be false because every country buries their legitimate nuclear facilities 300-feet underground.

That is especially true for countries that have such a great need for and reliance on nuclear power, like oil-rich Iran.

You are the definition of the useful idiot.

Anonymous said...

So the Israeli attacks should end right? Facilities were neutralized, end of story/killings! All those who bought the campaign promises of no more wars, what you have to say now?

Anonymous said...

6:26 - So Iran doesn’t want to wipe Israel off the map? They don’t want to wipe out the Great Satan (the USA) as they’ve been saying for the last 50 years? They haven’t been funding the terrorism of Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis? And Iran’s deeply-buried nuclear facilities are for peaceful purposes?

How stupid are you?

The question shouldn’t be why we’re striking Iran, but why we took so long.

Anonymous said...

No one knows the extent of the damage inflicted upon those nuke sites this soon after the strikes. General Cane admitted that in yesterday’s press conference. The damage assessment will take days, if not weeks. If not totally put out of commission for good, it should take several years to clean-up those sites and make them an active threat again. That’s good enough for me.

7:08 AM - we know without any doubt there were nuclear materials being prepared and stored. Iran even admits that. Technically, Iran has no need for nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. It has oil sources and supplies sufficient for hundreds of years going forward.

Anonymous said...

I approve of the attack but it would have been better if Trump had kept his mouth shut and the strike stealth. With a forewarning they had the opportunity to move some things and be prepared.

Anonymous said...

Are you trying to balance out your negative Trump posts because the Trump Trolls are getting to you? Don't want to lose those high IQ readers now!

Vladimir Ill-itch said...

The mission itself was quite impressive; too bad some Americans are rooting for our military to fail in the their mission because of whom the President is. B-2 Bombers take off from Missouri for a weekend road trip to Iran, supported by over 100 planes and the two carrier strike groups in the region. Iran never made a move and didn't fire a single missile or put a single fighter in the air. While we do not know the actual damage done yet (obviously Iran will downplay it), it appears that this mission was successful in two ways: 1) the targets were indeed hit and 2) the US reminded the world of her military might and that she can conduct military operations at-will globally. This plan was a lot more involved and complicated than a carrier strike group launching jets and firing missiles from far away. The generals planned a textbook mission and the men and women of the US armed forces did their jobs and did them well. Great work!

Anonymous said...

Obama dropped over 26,000 bombs in one calendar year (2016).

No bitching back then, right?

Anonymous said...

Can anybody give me a number of bombs Obama dropped during his presidency with no approval from congress? Also, was he impeached for it?

Bernie O'Hare said...

I opposed our intervention in Iraq bc I never believed that Hussein possessed WMDs, and even if he did, they did not threaten our own national security. This is much different. There is no dispute anywhere that Iran has been enriching uranium well beyond what is needed for peaceful purposes. It has stockpiled enough for 10 nukes and the facility at Fordow had reached the point where it was enriching enough for one nuke a month. And nukes present an international threat, unlike the chemical or biological weapons that Hussein was said to possess. Even a small exchange of 15-30 nukes would result in a nuclear winter over parts of the globe, and this would mean worldwide food shortages. And Iran, unlike rational states, is impervious to the MAD doctrine./ They have been state sponsors of terror since 1979. The religious fanatics in that regime do not place value on human life. They have neither sirens nor bomb shelters for the people they are supposed to protect. They have given us the three Hs - Hamas, Hezbollah and Houtis. All three are proxies that have engaged in terror. Iran itself routinely refers to the US as the "great Satan". The country has killed hundreds of American troops in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria. https://taskandpurpose.com/news/iran-attacks-us-military-iraq-syria-biden/

Anonymous said...

I was in the military of our Country for four years. I was very fortunate that I didn't have to kill anyone and was also very fortunate to see a great deal of the mid-east and Mediterranean area. What Bernie is printing here is factual and although I don't agree with him on everything he prints, he is right on with his observations and assessment of the Arab Nations. If you are not part of their religious "fanatical cults" you are considered an infidel and will never be accepted as a deserving person to enter the kingdom of our Lord. I despise Donald Trump and everything he stands for. Unfortunately I have to agree with him on this issue. Iran will be the first Country to use atomic weapons and the removal of this threat should be a priority for the rest of the world. From here into the future, he should include the NATO Nations in these decisions.

Anonymous said...

Obama, fresh from picking up a Nobel Peace Prize, droned an American citizen while he was dropping over 20,000 missiles. Granted, the American citizen was a piece of shit who had it coming. But it's food for thought as Trump attempts to deport non-citizens who have committed crimes - and Democrats fight him like he's Lincoln about to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, or Grant forcing southern Democrats to accept Reconstruction.

Anonymous said...

Was this the right thing to do? I’m not sure, but no one could say Hegseth wasn’t prepared. His hair and makeup was perfect and he’s figured out just how much of the red white and blue pocket square should be showing. Good job, Hegseth. Did we start world war 3? Maybe, but you look marvelous. Trump had to leave G7 early because he knows what makes good tv.

Anonymous said...

There are plenty of reasons Trump should be impeached especially over the emoluments clause but this isn’t one of them

Bernie O'Hare said...

8:00, One of the many reasons I opposed Trump's election was because of his isolationist foreign policy claims as a candidate. That might actually be the main reason. This is a sharp reversal of his previous statements, and I agree with it. There are currently three democracies under siege - Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine. In all three cases, our own national security is threatened. Though Israel is far more capable of defending itself, it is the world's most threatened and most hated democracy. China and Russia, the aggressors in Taiwan and Ukraine, are at least rational. They understand the consequences of nuclear war. Iran is a regime of religious fanatics who wish to export their ugly and hateful brand of Islam to the rest of the world. To the extent that their ambitions threaten our own security, they need to be stopped.

Bernie O'Hare said...

Israel has far more to worry about than nukes. That is our concern. But Iran possesses and uses missiles and drones to attack Israel directly or give to proxies who gladly do their dirty work. Israel should do everything it can to eliminate this threat. This is actually far more urgent than anything in Gaza.