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Wednesday, September 20, 2023

Northampton County Blatherskites Worry About Public Comment

In recent years, Northampton County Council meetings have rarely gone longer than two hours. In fact, Council President Kerry Myers and former President Lori Vargo Heffner have joked with each other about who can conduct a quicker meeting. Unfortunately for them, they were forced to listen to nearly three hours of public comments at their last meeting from parents concerned about a doctor who allegedly misdiagnoses child abuse as well as union and nonunion contractors who had differing views about the responsible contractor ordinance. Now, Lori Vargo Heffner wants Council to review the public comments policy. 

Her timing is awful. It sends a message that the last think Council members want to know is what members of the public actually think. In fact, I received this Facebook message yesterday from a local resident: "Guess they feel the need to silence people speaking out about important issues."  

I doubt that is Vargo Heffner's intention. If her goal is to formalize an unwritten policy that gives each speaker five minutes, that's a good idea. But the timing is still terrible. 

Although current Council members may think that its most recent meeting went on for too long, they are mistaken. Over the years, particularly at budget time, Council has had meetings that have gone until past 1 am.  Meetings that lasted four hours or more were the norm when Ron Angle was one of the nine overseers. It used to drive everyone, including his wife, nuts. 

The first time I met Sharon Angle was at one such meeting. She had been forced to drive Ron to the meeting because his leg was in a cast. She had reams and reams of magazines to review, but after a few hours, she began groaning and complaining, "Won't he ever shut up?"

"Excuse me, but who are you?"

"His wife." 

Council members never hesitate to blow their own horns during meetings with numerous committee reports, even though they are from committees that met that very day. Then there's the endless liaison reports. They have no rules of order, which means that members like Tara Zrinski can weigh in on one issue about 40 times before a vote. 

Pretty much every single one of them has, at one time or another, fit the definition of blatherskite (N. A person who talks at great length without making much sense). 

And they want to review public comment? 

The right of the public to speak at public meetings is enshrined in both The First Amendment and Pa. Sunshine Act. The First Amendment specifically provides that the "people" have the "right" "to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."  Under the Sunshine Act, either residents or taxpayers must be afforded a "reasonable opportunity" "to comment on matters of concern." Anyone who buys a gallon of gas or cup of coffee in the county is a taxpayer.  Moreover, whether the matter of concern is an agenda item is irrelevant. 

I'd agree that Council should formalize its public comment policy, but doing so right after hearing a number of heart-wrenching stories from members of the public is completely tone-deaf. Before they regulate public comment, they should regulate the blatherskites among them with rules of order. 

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

The majority of county citizens voted for a diaper wearing retard for US Senate. I don't blame the party that delivered this dreg for wanting to silence their equally retarded voters. Nobody in NorCo has anything intelligence to say. Scoreboard: Fetterman wins NorCo.

Anonymous said...

Citizens should have 5 minutes of time =.length of your lovemaking skills (lol).

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

If you look up blatherskite in Webster's Ron Heckman's photo is enshrined there as the biggest blatherskite of all time!

Anonymous said...

Lori's Comments today: "Well people complained we have no comment policy, maybe it should be more than 5 minutes. I like to blather on, come up with zero solutions, and waste everyone's time and public meetings. However, since I am bringing it up when the County Executive, a County Employee, or even my council clerk actually solves the problem I can steal credit from them. I'm too stupid to come up with solutions but smart enough to take the credit."

Watch any meeting... this is Lori's MO... she needs to go!

Bernie O'Hare said...

I was very impressed by County Council two weeks ago, when they allowed everyone to have their say. I am quite critical of Kerry Myers, but he did a good job as President in that meeting. Putting this on the agenda, so soon after so many people exercised their right to speak, is completely tone deaf.

Anonymous said...

So, you think we are “tone-deaf” now
Well watch us tonight, we’ll show you

Anonymous said...

Limiting comments is a long time coming! Every public hearing should have some sort of time limit for public comment. Lower Saucon enacted one some time ago, limiting comments to 3 minutes in duration. It has been a godsend. I swear some people have used public commenting in order to filibuster and disrupt public hearings and motions. Some would blather on and on and on, repeating him/herself continuously. Meanwhile, other residents, who may be there for a different agenda, would have to sit through hours of prattling, posturing, politicking and pointlessness...you already made your point, now sit down.

Bernie O'Hare said...

"Limiting comments is a long time coming! "

It came a long time ago. Northampton County Council has limited comments to 5 minutes since at least 2000, when it was considering a $111 million bond. It has been policy, but it is informal bc Council has no rules of order. That is the real problem. Formalizing rules of order would include public comment and would also prevent Council members from going off on their own rents or attempts to monopolize debate, which is what happens now. Instead of discussing rules of order, the real problem, LVH is taking aim at a constitutional and statutory right. I agree there should be limits, but it is incredibly stupid to review public comment right after a three-hour meeting in which community residents poured their hearts out. Although I suspect it is unintentional, this does send a message to the public about just how little their input is valued. It was incredibly foolish to place this on an agenda on the heels of that emotional meeting.

Anonymous said...

Au contraire - I'm sure that some decades ago Bernie didn't have a problem..... however in his current superannuated condition I bet it takes him all night (well, if you find a partner) 😏🤣

Anonymous said...

What is going on tonight?

Anonymous said...

Hefner loves to preach but wants to run everything.

Anonymous said...

It's a crime to question elections or electors. It should be a crime to ask questions of elected officials. Things will be much more orderly, which is enshrined in our Constitution. Where does it say that public officials must serve the public? It doesn't.

Anonymous said...

"Nobody in NorCo has anything "intelligence" to say." You mean like that, Einstein?

Anonymous said...

Rumor has it that narcissistic punk Lynch is gathering twenty of his roided out buds to intervene at the next council meeting if no one complies to the five minute rule.