For years, Congress has been gridlocked when it comes to any legislative solution to gun violence. Even bipartisan proposals like universal background checks have gone nowhere. So yesterday, I asked second amendment supporters what they would do to stop mass shootings. Some of them just want to blame Democrats for everything, but I did get some decent suggestions. Here's a summary.
1) Bring God (and morality) back into places like schools. - I'm unaware of any recent data indicating that mass shootings are less frequent at Catholic schools. I am aware that, in 2006, there was a mass shooting inside an Amish schoolhouse.
2) Constitutional carry should be permitted everywhere, including at schools. These are "soft targets" precisely because guns are prohibited. - I believe most people who do carry spend very little time on the range, and are just as likely to shoot themselves or an innocent person as any active shooter. I doubt many parents would be happy if armed people were routinely permitted inside a school.
3) Background checks with an emphasis on mental health, including an examination of social media.
4) "How do we stop these shootings? As a society, we stop dancing around the conversation and start demanding more, rather than, less of parents." - It's certainly true that many children are brought up in single parent households. Even when both parents are around, they often have little time for their children. Some may be assholes, but I suggest that many more are working two or three jobs with little or no benefits. I agree that, if parents are absent, it's important to have role models for children as they grow up. I believe we could do more in that area.
5) The raising of a minimum age to purchase assault style rifles. - I agree.
6) Increased penalties for those in possession of illegal firearms." - That already is the law for many crimes.
7) Mandatory sentencing for those who commit crimes with firearms.
8) No plea bargaining for these offenses.
9) Firearms training for anyone seeking a concealed carry permit.
10) "would a new nation-wide tip line (like 911) specifically dedicated to preventing mass shootings help? I don't know, but I'd like to see it discussed." - This is the first I heard this idea, and I think it's good. Some people will abuse it to get people they dislike in trouble, but persons making unfounded reports could be fined.
11) Armed resource officers at every school.
12) Establish a mental health system .
I appreciate the feedback, and believe that 2a enthusiasts did have some reasonable suggestions. Too Bad they aren't in Congress.
Since it’s obvious that the USA can’t have nice things with its over-glorified gun culture, I call for our mandatory liability insurance for each and every firearm purchased in the US. Just like we do for vehicles.
ReplyDeletePut some pressure on the most powerful lobby group in congress, the insurance corporations, and you’ll see everything change when they have to huge death benefits to beneficiaries.
Well, in the Texas shooting, the shooter posted on Facebook that he was going to shoot his grandmother and then was going to shoot a school. Interesting on how quickly Facebook personnel have been posting and stating a post is false or partly false by fact checkers. Someone failed to do their job and warn others.
ReplyDeleteThis is the best statement and accurate
DeleteWe promote and profit from mental illness by indulging it (27 genders, mastectomies for minor girls, genital mutilation for minor boys). Then, we're surprised when more mental illness develops.
ReplyDeleteGuns can be banned by Constitutional amendment overturning 2A. It's a long process. But it's clearly defined and has been used effectively. As long as politicians are talking about something other than proposing a Constitutional amendment, they are simply fund raising for their next campaigns. This is why guns aren't going anywhere. Even socialist/communist Bernie Sanders, after softening his strong 2A support (which is necessary for any elected official in VT), only calls for common sense gun SAFETY laws. He knows bans are never going to happen without a Constitutional amendment. And a Constitutional amendment is never happening when you can't even get a socialist/communist behind it.
Back to making boys into girls and girls into boys and performing expensive, disfiguring, and life-altering mutilations on minors .......
The people I know that invoke God/Lord on FB do not go to church on a regular basis or at all. Maybe it provides them comfort when they turn around and mock anothers suffering.
ReplyDeleteArmed resources at every school is an sickening idea, this would not stop anything. Perhaps a state hospital system like they had back in the seventies would help. This would cost all of us more money in taxes and would be worth it. Maybe it’s time for socialize medicine where everyone can get the help they need.
ReplyDeleteSo you want to just push pills? State hospitals closed up due to costs I believe. Look at the homeless camps all over the Lehigh Valley. Sad.
DeleteI don't mean to be sarcastic, but do you know anyone who lives in a country with socialized medicine? I've had many friends living in Canada, Spain, and the UK over the years. None of them thought everyone was getting the help they needed in those countries. Limited services, insane wait times, lack of good specialists, etc.
DeleteBernie as I have been reading this and the previous posts I began to think how many people have actually read the second amendment. In today's world most people argue their fight without digging to the base line thing they are fighting over.
ReplyDelete"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
Reading this it talks about a well regulated Militia so to that point then how about in order to own and bear arms you must serve in the military for some period and be trained in handling weapons. Then you must maintain your status on militia roles (gov't managed). Before you can own arms.
Does not take a lawyer to interpret the fact that there are too many commas in the 2nd ammendment to just narrow it down to a well regulated militia. AM I correct Bernie?
DeleteThe militia, as understood at the time the Second Amendment was ratified in 1791, was intentionally NOT the same as a government standing army. Americans were terrified of the British standing armies and an armed milita of the people was meant to be a check on the level of government power. You can read the Supreme Court's decision in D.C. v. Heller for a history lesson on the original meaning of the words of the Second Amendment, if you're interested.
DeleteBernie one additional thought - effectively securing school buildings, both external and the ability to secure rooms inside the school so that in the event of an a active shooter situation doors lock down automatically.
ReplyDeleteIt never fails to amaze me that I need a state issued ID, go through a metal detector and past armed guards, and am in a fortress, to see a politician, but I can just walk into a school? Come on.
A lot of these proposals miss a simple fact: most pyscho shooters like these end up dead, often by their own hand. You cannot deter such attackers by strengthening your defenses.
ReplyDeleteThey will simply move on to a more vulnerable target (public parks, businesses) or, at best, the massacres will continue but be shortened. I would not consider a future where we have regular shootouts between psychos and teachers to be a successful solution to the problem.
The real problem here is the number of young people ending up in a mental state where murder-suicide looks like a reasonable course of action to them. More guns will never solve that problem.
"but I can just walk into a school? Come on."
ReplyDeleteWhen's the last time you were at a school? Security is very tight at most of them. You can't just walk in.
Bernie you are an optimist. I didn’t see nearly as many viable suggestions as you did. Other countries have solved this problem because they have had an open discourse and a common goal to end mass shootings. Some of your reader responses that mentioned mental illness is just distracting and goes back to the old NRA line from the 70s, “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” Nonsense. People with guns kill people. We could argue with the 2a people, what is an “arm”? Is it a musket from 1791, when the constitution was ratified? Is it a sword? A knife? A catapult? A rock? An anti- ballistic missle launcher that I’ve assembled in my backyard? Is it a bomb that I’ve constructed? Why do Americans of any age need an assault rifle? Who, in my suburban world, am I going to need to assault? Oh yes, I may need to have to defend myself from the criminals who have guns. Another old line from the NRA. The add more guns, yes, arm second grade teachers with handguns and all will be well. That an elementary school needs police with guns is an amazing statement of our love for guns. Then bring God into it. Yes, God wants you to have guns, or we need guns because we have left God out. The NRA won’t let a conversation happen. They’ll slap-down any politician who thinks about having a conversation.
ReplyDeleteWhy aren't you having this conversation about cars??? When some nut job takes a car and runs over a group of people at a Christmas parade no is up in arms about let's get rid of cars .cars dont kill people. People in cars kill people. Them problem is people. And their are people in the far right and far left. Nobody wants to again compromise. This country has gone to far to the extremes. And any weapon can be a assault weapon. Some gets shot with a musket and dies pretty sure that person that was killed would think he was assaulted.
DeleteI am a huge proponent of firearms training having conducted such training for just a little over 20 years. I've taught gun courses that were both mandatory for the participants and voluntary for the participants. By and large the level of skill (surgical accuracy) has been higher among those engaged in voluntary training. It's not to say that those who are forced to undergo annual training aren't accurate but many who are forced to "qualify" are downright scary on the range.
ReplyDeleteAn argument is often made that we cannot simply allow the average person to carry a gun in a prohibited place (schools, courthouses, federal properties) because of lack of training. Arguments are even made in some instances that it is unknown if the user's firearm is well maintained (serviceable). The problem in that argument is that these animals who are killing innocents are not highly trained people and it is unknown if their firearms are maintained.
Mandatory training is a feel good measure that does not accomplish nearly that which the mandate intends. It is born of the person who believes that "somebody has to do something" when in fact doing something many times does nothing useful.
My grandfather carried a gun all of his adult life. He didn't have special training, was not a lawman, didn't serve in the military, etc. It doesn't take special training to use a gun effectively, as proven by the success of the mass shooters.
As far as mental people having firearms if we are going to put any effort towards prohibition then we need to extend that prohibition to operating a motor vehicle of any kind as well. We need to address the issue of mental health, not use it as a way to extend firearms prohibitions.
We also need mandatory sentencing for violent offenders and like others said no plea bargaining and no bail for violent offenders. Placing a violent offender back into society is dangerous.
We don't have a gun problem, we have a violence problem. Dead with a gun is the same as dead with a knife or a brick or a roofing hammer.
Anon @ 7:46 is correct. Bring back the state hospital system for the mentally ill.
ReplyDeleteI think there are a couple things we might be able to do. Sad I have to think this way but today's world. Make a central control room like they have in prisons that controls all the doors of a school. If a active shooter comes in this person could some what contain the shooter.
ReplyDeleteAlso make a new branch of the department of homeland security. Call it what you want but an armed law enforcement officer in every school. And the number of officers at each school depends on the enrollment of the school. The level of security needs to be there. And not some retired cop just trying to make a couple bucks. Make it federal. This country throws money around for everything. Do it to protect some of are most vulnerable.
The upgrade for the schools all paid federal money. Have panic buttons in class rooms for teachers to lock room down. I know bullet proof glass would be crazy expensive but there is bullet resistance film that goes over windows and glass to maybe slow things down.
Idk. Just ideas
This day and age with IT , I would thank an algorithm would have tickled something when one places a FB page that their going to ,go “shoot my grandmother “ and go “to a school. “. Geez , Communality of perpetrators , they do the same things , “This is not a gun problem.” Texas Governor says. Well , I agree with him . In Switzerland able bodied mails are in their armed services,they are issued a firearm with ammunition to keep
ReplyDeletein their homes ,look at their crime rate, or murder rate,mass shootings Firearms are “Tools” .. Look at Vermont ,any crime % to speak of? The answer to the question in my book is education in the subject matter. Start early and often ,safety ,respect and control early and often. Evan a squirt gun (modal) teach not to aim at other people on purpose OR “muzzling inadvertently “. Avoid use of GAMES were people are shot, I believe these GAMES are the anesthetic of a kids mindset . This is a person problem, If they used a Mack truck to run over a group of innocent people , the resulting end is the same. Would they start saying no Mack trucks? I’m the. Same as another poster here , I punch holes in paper, I’d never kick a cat and Do Not Hunt Animals. Good day.
There is no proposed legislation that would have deterred any of the recent shootings.
ReplyDeleteThere is no magic legislative act that will end violence. I think the word is violence, not just gun violence. More people are killed with blunt objects. There is always cars, trucks, fire and many other creative ways to kill, if you put your mind to it.
As for detecting the criminals before they act, that is an oppressive police state that will inevitably be used for vengeance and other objectives.
That leaves us with the reality that we now live in a dangerous world, were many violent criminals are being released into society every day.
Like the old west now, it will require vigilance and self protection, no one is going to save you now that society has moved from law and order and respect to mayhem as the status quo. No legislation will provide the safety everyone wants, it will only punish the lawbreaker who obviously doesn't care.
How about policies that encourage a 2 parent family, where a father is the head of the household, not just a provider and servant. Oh no, that is patriarchy and the last thing everyone wants today. Why should men be fathers, when there is no respect, just accusations of domination and control which maybe that is what is needed for stable families and a stable society.
Is that going to happen, no, so expect things to get one hell of a lot worse before whats left of society gets the message, that the tried and true lessons of civilization worked and chaos and anarchy always leads to death and destruction.
I know it didn't factor into the Texas shooting, but I think another issue is that public schools need to be able to expel problem students more easily.
ReplyDeleteI believe the schools are limited in that regard by state requirements to educate students, no matter what problems they present. This is worrisome as it keeps "normal" kids in close contact with those that are potentially dangerous, and it also keeps the problem kids from getting the specialized help that they need.
Beyond those with actual mental problems, I know Allentown has kids who are affiliated with gangs attending their schools and they are rarely disciplined since everyone knows they aren't going anywhere. I'm guessing that Allentown isn't the only school system in the Valley with that problem.
That's not a recipe for the other kids attending to be safe and get a decent education, and it allows parents of troubled kids to treat school as a taxpayer-paid day care. It also makes our public schools de facto juvenile mental health and juvenile detention facilities, which I believe is WAY beyond what should be their focus.
I think there are problems with public schools beyond this issue, and I'm not saying fixing this solves all those problems. But this seems to be a clearly bad situation that's putting all kids at risk.
Why does the president and all these bleeding heart liberals only come out on school shoots why isn't Biden in Chicago or California every weekend. 20 people are killed almost every weekend in Chicago. Not enough political gains
ReplyDeleteThese country is screwed. When you have a president sit there and tell some kids that their father, a convicted felon for putting a loaded gun to a pregnant woman belly demanding money, drug addict trying to steal from a store by using counterfeit money, while high on drugs, is a great man. We are screwed as a country .
What that president should have said was, your father made a lot of bad choices in life . And they got him killed. The cop didn't use proper procedure and is being punished for it ,but kids dont be like your father. And we are working on law enforcement using the correct procedures.
"Why aren't you having this conversation about cars??? When some nut job takes a car and runs over a group of people at a Christmas parade no is up in arms about let's get rid of cars .cars dont kill people. People in cars kill people"
ReplyDeleteI addressed this bogus analogy yesterday. A car is designed to transport people. A gun is designed to kill people. That is the difference.
Once again that is a statement of someone on the far left. I'm the person who made that post. And I have guns. 30-06, 35 ,12 gauge, 300 Winchester mag.
DeleteThen I have my hand guns,and other weapons.
Not one gun is there to kill people. Some are there to defend people. Like myself, my family. And when I put that badge on my chest 8 hours a day I have a gun to protect our society and public. Not to kill people. If people use something for the wrong purpose it's the same. So if you use a gun , a car, a knife, a bat ,hammer, piece of glass, or poison. It's all the same bad people do bad things. What they choose to use is what it is.
I know this doesn't fit your you little agenda.
19 children’s bodies ripped apart, 2 adults, and yet the NRA will meet in Houston to hoot and holler and celebrate their gun culture and the politicians who take money from them. What hope is there when these people show no respect for the families of those victims?? I see no hope in our blatantly hateful, me-first society.
ReplyDelete"When's the last time you were at a school? Security is very tight at most of them. You can't just walk in."
ReplyDeleteThen how are these guys getting in? The Ulvade shooter actually locked doors when he was inside to prevent law enforcement from getting to him. It worked for 30mins (at least).
Something isn't right about how secure the buildings really are.
21 people killed by a gun legally purchased and owned by a member of the mythical well-regulated militia
ReplyDelete$100 insurance policy for each gun owned, then the insurance companies can payout for the next mutation. Also, the parents are responsible for their kids behavior until the age of 21. That will be the age an American can purchase a gun legally.
ReplyDeleteQuestions for 9:05AM - Is it even remotely possible to confiscate all guns? Will the criminals, gang members, drugs cartels freely hand their weapons over? Is it impossible to illegally manufacture dozens of guns and thousands of ammo rounds inside a space the size of a two-car garage?
ReplyDeleteI can answer these questions. NO to each one. Until these answers are YES, the great majority is Americans want to keep what they have now.
10:56 AM - Being expelled from school no longer means what most of us think does. That is, kicked-out of school entirely. Around here, expelled means any period of suspension 15 days or longer. Then, come right back, possibly to a different school building within the same district.
ReplyDelete@11:05 - What part of the definition of "liberal" bothers you? -
ReplyDeleteWilling to respect or accept behavior or opinions different from one's own, open to new ideas.
I wish you would allow us to post gifs as it might be easier for the poorly educated to understand basic common sense.
ReplyDeleteThe deflections about "tough gun control laws" in big cities being failures is silly.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know why Chicago, LA, NYC are the gun murder capitols of the country?
IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE THE MOST POPULATED CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES!!!!
Any accidental or intentional death by a gun is worthy of grief, sympathy and concern. Stop citing Chicago as a point of failure and start citing gun deaths on a per capita basis.
Bernie he walked into the school, unobstructed, entering through an unlocked door.
ReplyDeleteSo he could "just walk in."
As far as I'm concerned, the principal, vice principal, and school board should take responsibility for this as well as the murderer.
Blame doesn't solve this issue. And frankly it's disgusting to blame the principal
DeleteGuns are big money on both sides. In America it is about money and not about right or resolution. As you can tell from these blogs there are people on both sides willing to destroy others for their own opinion and many more are willing to put their money where their opinions are. Both sides will make hundreds of millions off the latest mass shooting. So they really do not want to resolve it. It is too profitable for groups that could help to resolve it. And the common people are too stupid to stop really help a solution. Instead they would fight amongst themselves..
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ReplyDelete"- Is it even remotely possible to confiscate all guns?"
It would not be needed.
remove the capability for people to buy ammo.
Along with reloading supplies etc.
Folks are going to produce their own primers?
smokeless powder?
Start with say 223 caliber.
As to illegal manufacture take a page from Texas law.
Any individual can sue ($10 thousand ching ching )a person with a illegal gun and it is up to the accused to prove differently plus anyone who assists in that act.
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ReplyDeleteFuck the car analogy! Grow up and make tougher decisions, make something that work. Demand your politicians to make something work. That is their job to make tough decisions. Let’s make them go against the NRA and gun manufacturers. Otherwise we will see more children die and no God will help us.
An overwhelming majority of gun violence in this country occurs in cities and states controlled and regulated by Democrats. Many of them have the strictest gun laws in the country.
ReplyDeleteIt should come as no surprise that liberal politicians and media outlets reserve their outrage and shock for carefully selected situations involving white supremacy and conservative areas.
It gives them an opportunity to ignore the realities of their own failures.
3,561 shooting last year, over 800 of them fatally.
In Chicago.
Not Texas.
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ReplyDeleteWe have a gun problem and a Republican Political issue with greed, power and money. How many Democrats are going to the NRA party in Texas? Sorry, Joe Manchin a Republican. This is a Republican problem which they grew throughout the decades and every vote for a Republican is a vote for more dead Americans. Face facts
Why are you making this about politics??? Geez!! Grow up
DeleteNothing is going to change. The Republican party take gobs of money from the gun lobby and will do anything to stop any form of gun control. The Republican party also controls the Supreme Court majority so no problem there. The Texas governor blames this latest shooting on mental illness yet he recently slashed the budget for fighting mental illness and very shortly this same governor is suppose to attend the NRA convention somewhere in Texas along with Senator Ted Cruz. With the Republicans well-known stand on abortion I can only conclude that Republicans are more concerned about an unborn fetus than they are about a living school child.
ReplyDeleteYou’re an idiot
DeleteLet’s not teach critical race theory because fragile white people don’t want their kids to learn Americas ugly slave history.
ReplyDeleteAnd let’s give absurd performances at school board meetings over keeping our kids healthy over mask.
But let’s remain quiet about how easy it is for an eighteen year old to buy a assault weapon, that has the power to split a child in half, because it will make it harder for us to buy MORE weapons.
Do you hear how fucking retarded that sounds?
Fuck your infatuation with phallic boomsticks, our babies lives are more far more important assholes.
White people?? Screw your analogy racist asshole.
DeleteI don’t want to Monday morning quarter back this , but I spent 28 years with an Infantry MOS.in the Marines and Army . But a bit of cops running around causing displacement of tactical integrity. Several units responded and they don’t know each other. A bad guy could dress up a kill them because the don’t know each other responding . Bad guy could get in middle like those Characters that gave away apartments as federal agents to Secret Serves they faked it. - stupid. One aggressive shooter - only 2 that go after him. See all these cops running places- this means out of control. Signed - Peter J.Cochran retired infantry officer ,US Army and Marine Corps both schools. Don’t like it “Come get me ,see what happens 2U. Well I am in shock as Americans are over this killings of innocent children. With water in my eye I know I could have personally stopped this guy ,the U.S. Government paid a lot of money to get me where I’m still in a lethality state,Evan at my age , almost nobody . Punks are not trained ,they are sitting ducks in my eye. I wish I had a Crystal Ball and could see into the future.
ReplyDelete"Not one gun is there to kill people. Some are there to defend people. Like myself, my family. " And that is because your gun is a killing machine. I know people who buy guns simply bc they are beautiful to them, but they are killing machines. And it you really are a cop, you know better than most just how dangerous they are. The biggest advocates of gun control are often police officers.
ReplyDeleteA mistake for you, Bernie, to even start this conversation since you don’t know how to end it! Way out of your league!
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ReplyDelete"An overwhelming majority of gun violence in this country occurs in cities and states"
try
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/22/crime-murder-rates-republican-cities/
"McConnell’s line of attack dovetails with the fearmongering at Fox News and on the right that crime is flourishing in places run by Democrats. This tactic is as predictable as it is tiresome. It’s also only half the story; Republicans are conveniently ignoring the even sorrier state of many places where they’re in charge."
"What McConnell doesn’t tell you is that his home state of Kentucky has the third-highest homicide rate per capita in the United States. In fact, eight of the 10 states with the highest homicide rates in 2020 voted that year for Donald Trump."
"That’s not to say crime isn’t a problem in blue locales."
"But exclusive focus on these jurisdictions obscures dire data outside Democratic-voting states and cities. The per capita homicide rates in Mobile, Ala., Jacksonville, Fla., and Tulsa, Okla. — all cities with Republican mayors — are more than double those in Los Angeles or Seattle. The rate in House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s (R) hometown of Bakersfield, Calif., is twice New York’s.
“The increase in murders is not a liberal cities problem but a national problem,"
"A mistake for you, Bernie, to even start this conversation since you don’t know how to end it! Way out of your league!"
ReplyDeleteThis is my league. I invited the comments and have no intention of ending anything.
My prediction of the kind of changes coming to better protect school buildings -
ReplyDelete12 foot tall, chain link fencing all around each school’s perimeter. Minimal number of gate openings, each opening manned by armed security. Everything backed-up by camera security monitored at all times by a security person inside each building. No more casually entering a school building, even for what has been normally accepted reasons, like parents bringing forgotten lunches, picking-up/dropping off due to appointments, package delivery, maintenance, etc.
In other words . . . . prison-like environment.
Great discussion and a fascinating read of comments. They're predictable and repetitive, though. That tells me nothing meaningful will be done - again, and we'll be back here for the next shooting, which will surely come. School massacres are not new. The worst school in US history happened 95 years ago last week, killed 38 children, three adults, and only involved a shotgun, fired at a vehicle to detonate explosives.
ReplyDeleteI don't know the solution. 340 million guns aren't going away under any plan. Not even the most progressive politician has proposed an amendment to overturn 2A. I think we've all lost a grasp of objective realities re: right and wrong. It's unpopular, and even criminal to call any thing, institution, or behavior "abnormal." When this results in ignoring, or even indulging mental sickness, it simply enables the sickness. With the loss of faith in just about every institution in American life, we have no anchors. We have no objective reality. In other words, we're screwed and hopeless. But we did it to ourselves.
Please tell me what mental health intervention works to "fix" this shooter? What are they going to do to "fix" that young man who just pulled a gun on a storekeeper in Allentown when this guy thought it appropriate to threaten when shopkeeper requested dog be kept outside? It will be plea bargained down and he will join the other punks roaming Allentown streets. They will just throw some money to some fast-talking community organizer that will explain how disadvantaged this kid has been.
ReplyDeleteGet a load of this dude at 6:58PM LOL. This is why I think the far left liberalism people are mentally ill.
ReplyDeleteNobody is saying don't teach our kids about slavery, what we don't want is our kids being put in categories like oppressor or oppressed and so forth when they're 5 years old. CRT is a joke, we're 36th in the industrialized world in math and science and this is what they're worried about LOL.
Absurd performances over masks? The CDC just said that we now know this virus is less of a risk to people 25 and under than getting killed in a car wreck. Again, mental illness LOL. A mask of a kid for 7 hours a day, with the dirty hands and constant touching does nothing anyway.
The 18 year old buying a rifle, as a conservative 2A supporter I really wouldn't lose any sleep at all if they banned all rifles, the problem is people like 6:58PM insist on having our southern border wide open, so it doesn't' matter what we ban, it's still going to get here. Just ask the families of the 110,000 people who died of fentanyl overdoses last year, 5 times the amount of people killed by guns.
How's that for being "retarded" which, as a liberal, you should know is inappropriate in 2022. Again, rules for thee, not for me.
Okay, we’ll keep the word oppressor out of it.
DeleteSo let’s open the conversation about slavery. Let’s explain to your kids that when your founding fathers wrote the constitution, that each and every one of them owned a slave. And explain to them that when slavery was abolished, your ancestors created “black codes” which were laws that criminalized petty offenses and aimed at keeping freed slaves tied to their former owners where they continued to be abused. Our next lesson is Jim Crow, where whites created racial segregation. They dominated state representation and made it a point to disenfranchise and remove any political and economic gains made by every African American. Oh, and when your little Kimberly wants to know why African Americans live on this part of town affectively called “Da hood”, you can explaining that your ancestors developed redlining, to make sure they stay in that part of town. And don’t forget to explain white privilege, white fragility, white supremacy and how it works to create systemic racism that effects all marginalized groups to this day. And if you’re not actively fighting white supremacist, you’re probably a racist Kimberly.
But yeah, make sure you you don’t mention the word “oppressor”…
What do you expect from a dim-witted conservative that dismisses the kids that die in school shootings as “the price we have to pay” for your FREE-DUMB. And I certainly don’t expect you to understand that it’s not about that actual mortality rate of children, but that they can be vectors of the virus and transmit the it to the immunocompromised or elderly.
But yeah, just keep looking at this pandemic through a one-dimensional lens.
Unfortunately for you, the family of a million Americans disagree with your simpleton assessment.
But yeah, I’m the one with the mental disease.
Slavery??? Seriously?? Your making this about that?? Way to deflect. 18 kids lost their lives because we have a mental health crisis. Boy are you real Rembrandt!
DeleteThere’s no mental health crisis, for fuck sake stop listening to that propaganda mill Fox News. We have an access to weapons of mass destruction problem. No reason why an 18 yo should ever own an AR, period. It’s all fun and games with you turds until your son or daughter gets split in half by a bullet. Miss me with this bullshit.
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ReplyDelete" changes coming to better protect school buildings -"
average cost is about 3 million per school. then paying armed folks for complete coverage.
only one access point?
What happens if there is a fire at the school?
Triangle shirt factory ring a bell?
There are 130 thousand schools in the US at 3 mil apiece?
Gun control is a better way
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ReplyDelete"340 million guns aren't going away under any plan"
Little hard to use without ammo.
Managed to regulate buying Sudafed so ammo is possible.
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ReplyDelete" worst school in US history happened 95 years ago"
And how many other school massacres happened that year?
So one ancient event means throwing up your hands and just accepting kids will die?
@11:51 sounds to me like you have one of your rifles stuffed up somewhere and blaming everyone else and not ever thinking about contributing to a fix but whining and throwing up blocks to any other solution which might be out there.
ReplyDeleteThe reason we are the worst educationally is because of people like you who blame everything on everyone else. 6:58 sound like they could be in the same platform. It was not my kid, it was the teachers fault, it was the schools fault, it is CRT, it is religion in school, it was it is it........ In many nations you have to continue through the process and show progression or you are out. In this country it is about who makes the money. The teachers, the unions, the school districts, the townships skimming out of school taxes, the universities who pass people so they con continue to collet tuitions. Education should be education and not a profit center. Poor Johnny and Suzie they have ADHD Ot they don't test well, oh they can only learn in a private teach, oh oh oh.
Some of you who read my post thought I’m —- well leadership at site hade issues. .I was on the Pennsylvania State Governor’s 20 for 8 years x- we didn’t teach- wait ! Our coarse of fire was aggressive and Street in . “Not to Breach” this is why I said wait I did earlier. Pray , school district security is a pay scam . We pay for it ,they hire the ,not the right persons for these positions.
ReplyDelete"So one ancient event means throwing up your hands and just accepting kids will die?"
ReplyDeleteGuided by 95 years of evidence since the ancient event in question: yes.
Evil exists and society seems comfortable making excuses for it. Cowardly cops are not helpful, either.
Well this headline says alot.
ReplyDeleteGuns will be banned during Donald Trump's speech at the NRA conference.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-abbott-cruz-scheduled-speak-163639598.html
it is good for them but not for anyone else. Hmm if guns don't kill people why don't they sort through their radical's and keep those people out of their events instead of banning guns and for that matter anything which might be of any harm.
Absolutely hypocritical.
And by the way the only reason Trump is even mentioned in this is that he was in the headline. I unilaterally applies across any of these politicians. And Cruz, Cawthornes, Boebert, Greene all apply the same rule but yet several of them tried to carry weapons through public areas where they are banned and then cried fowl that they were singled out. Should not be allowed to have it both ways.
I just happened to be watching TV earlier this morning and a movie from 1951 - I was a communist for the F.B.I was on. It was really interesting in the tactics, plans, money generation and other actions conducted. Although the premise is supposed to be fictional so many of the things that are occurring the background like utilizing an incident to raise money, stirring the pot but then making yourself out to be the hero, ripping apart America through planned derision, motivating an individual to create a problem that you can blame on the other side, and so much more may have been portrayed as fiction then but are in practice today.
ReplyDeleteWatch the movie then step back and look at what is going on around us today. Russia's tactics have not changed in dealing with America, but even worse many of our own internal so called leaders and their henchmen have embraced and refined many of the methods portrayed in the movie. There are too many bad actors in today's society which we encourage and elevate.
And the scariest part is that these same things were shown in a movie in 1951 but we have forgotten and been blinded by the fight instead of remembering the history which created derision then and is creating destruction today.
Trump is not a politician that is why the deep state hated him trump was on to those people. Too bad Trump is not in charge no inflation gas less than 2 no border problems no wars stock market soring The smart people long for the good old days.
ReplyDelete@3:37 LOL nothing like an angry liberal. Read 11:51 post. First off he/she states that they wouldn't care about banning rifles. Doesn't sound like a gun nut to me. Makes a valid point about the border being wide open, because yes, someone else made the point about the 110,000 fentanyl overdoses which is way more people we lose to gun violence in a year. It's very hard to ban anything in this country when the border is wide open and contraband flows over it like water. I would not have used the mental illness analogy, but really, a liberal will tell me that they're the party of science, then tell me a man can compete against women and have no advantage, or men can have babies ect I mean give me a break. Both parties are off the rails and we need to open the primaries up or it's just going to get worse.
ReplyDelete6:37 sounds like a very angry black dude that's spending a little too much time reading Nikole Hannah Jones and her 1619 project. Settle down it will be ok.
Fortunately for us, conservatism is a dying ideology in America. You’re afraid. We know you’re trying to hold on to that last shred of white supremacy but you don’t have to worry about the marginalized making you our slaves because all we ever wanted was equality.
DeleteInstead of listening to every dog whistle Fox News throws your way, you’re be glad to know that we don’t have a illegal border crossing problem. It’s been all manufactured by the elite and fed to Fox News to pump the fear and fantasy infatuation you have with anything that’s different, while the billionaires continue to accumulate wealth. But ya to dumb to realize that.
You can dismiss the African American experience in this country all you want, but it happened, and you’re just afraid to face the atrocities your grandfathers participated in because of your white fragility.
Have the day you deserve.
Haha you're a regular riot!😆
DeleteI want to give shoutout to every Republican out here who believes that they’ll defeat a “tyrannical government” with AR-15s…
ReplyDeleteThat’s rich.
Now, should teachers be armed? Ah, I know two that really could pass muster . For the most part teachers and guns are like city kids and farm tractors. They don’t mix. So- better to have some staff ,Evan the dear hunting janitor ,get him to qualify and carry, the best situation would be former combatants that are waiting for a job to open and let that person guard our kids . Their fine and know stuff. Then rotate. Them in and out as they find jobs. And school district doesn’t have burdened costs later.
ReplyDelete@1:25, @4:48, @4:50, @4:55 You should be careful on holidays like this dinking and fireworks don't mix to well. Especially be sauced that early in the morning.
ReplyDelete@1:30 What?? Someone lacks common sense. Nice comeback moron 🙄
ReplyDeleteOnce again we prove the old adage of opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Whether you are pro gun or anti gun, guns are not going away in America in your lifetime. You can regulate to a certain degree who has access to guns but it basically ends there. You must have a nation wide policy and not state by state. Nationally our asshole leaders in Washington want to do something but they don't have the backbone to do it right. This is a screwed up issue that has no real answer because of the hunting industry and the taxes generated from the gun and hunting industry. They want to pass laws that you have to be 21 to purchase a gun. Really? In Pennsylvania like in most states you only have to be sixteen years old to hunt by yourself without adult supervision and with a gun. You only have to attend a "hunters safety course" sponsored by the Pa. Game Commission. This 16 year old can put this gun (hand gun or Rifle) in his automobile and travel to any gun club or to his favorite hunting area and shoot this weapon. Technically it is considered a concealed weapon once it is in his car. The gun will be owned by his father or another relative and registered in the adults name but the teenager can still hunt with it. Are you going to arrest the adult who allowed him to have the gun? This must be looked at from every aspect of society and not rushed into. Hundreds of laws will have to be changed as well as new laws introduced. Something must be done to protect our children and I support that 100%. Just take our time and do it right.
ReplyDelete@5:59 it was written in a way that a drunk or drug addict like yourself would probably read it and put it together coherently but apparently not.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching the latest Medcram, it is inescapable that social media plays a huge roll in the suicidal ideation that drives mass shooters. One answer then is to limit internet access on cell phones to those under 18. Cell phones, like any tool, have inherent dangers and that needs to be recognized and addressed.
ReplyDeleteSo I am reading through the posts this morning getting caught up on the nonsense LOL. I did notice this guy at 6:37 and 5:09 and I'm like, how did this go off the rails to a racial discussion.
ReplyDeleteThen it dawned on me, that's none other than Justan with an "A" Parker. Where did all the money go Justan?? What did Cullors do with it. Don't be triggered now, tell us where all the money went that was given to your crooked outfit known as BLM!
Hello douche bag. If you scrolled up more than your smooth brain allowed you to, you’d realize that CRT was given as an analogy for how fragile the white man can be when bringing up subjects they’re uncomfortable discussing. Such as CRT and gun law reform.
Delete10:13 STFU with your racist mouth.
DeleteI’ll be quiet, but you’re still weak and fragile.
Delete3:14p What the fuck is wrong with you?? Put down the bottle and stop watching CNN. Good grief 🙄
ReplyDelete2:28 says the keyboard warrior.
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