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Friday, October 27, 2017

Who Won the McClure-Brown Debate?

Lamont McClure and John Brown

Executive John Brown and challenger Lamont McClure squared off in a lively debate last night at Northampton Community College's main campus. Over 100 people attended. There were the usual camp followers. There were nervous cabinet officials wondering whether it's time to dust off their resumes. The X factor was a crowd of concerned Nazareth and Easton area residents. Real citizens! Who won? Believe it or not, Ron Angle. He at least gets an assist in a Lamont McClure decision.

No, I've had no cocktails tonight. Let me explain how I've come to what must strike many of you as a ridiculous conclusion.

Dr. John Kincaid was superb as moderator
Contrasting styles

Nobody hit any home runs. Brown's people think he won. McClure's people think Lamont crushed. After thinking it over, Lamont came on a bit too strong. Brown is simply unable to answer a direct question.

Here's kind of how it went.

"How's the weather?"

McClure: "Much as my opponent would have you believe that the skies are gray as he spends thousands of taxpayer dollars on illegal lunches, the sky is actually blue as his callous cronies jet off to Las Vegas and New Orleans. And no, we don't need a new jail."

Brown: "My executive experience in the private sector has empowered me with the core competency to move the needle and work through the synergies of the moving parts to think outside the box and leverage a solution. Thank you."

It's understandable that both may have been a little self-conscious, but they should have opened up a bit more.

John Brown: "We do what municipal gov't can't
do,and what state gov't won't do."
About the only time McClure gave you a glimpse into himself is when he briefly discussed being the son of a civil servant and growing up "acutely aware" that everything he had, from the shoes on his feet to the roof over his head, was paid for by the taxpayer. He said he developed a "great respect" for the public sector employee as a result of his upbringing, and he suddenly sounded both sincere and very likable in that moment. In the 17 years I've followed him, it's the first time I saw him act that way publicly, but it was only for a moment. He should do that more often.

McClure attacks

As it is, he did offer the following devastating indictment of the past four years under Brown:

1) Brown posted armed guards outside a news conference to keep Council members out (Brown never answered this charge)
2) Brown misused his expense allowance (Brown admitted he goofed)
3) Brown's vaunted P3 bridge project is $2 million over budget and behind schedule (Brown said the first bridge will be done tomorrow.)
4) Brown cut farmland spending by 84% (Brown said every farm that has applied and is qualified has been preserved.)
5) Brown balanced the budget on the backs of employees by allowing a large number of vacancies at the jail and in Human Services (Brown responded that Civil Service rules make it difficult to fill vacancies quickly)
6) Brown could have vetoed a 10% tax hike in 2015 (Brown said that would have opened the budget back up to more spending by the Democrats)
7) Brown claims business experience, but was fired from two jobs and laid off by a third (Brown had no response)

Lamont McClure: "So many seniors are struggling that
they fear they won't be able to stay in their homes." 
Brown counterattacks

Brown had his own zingers against McClure:

1) McClure lacks executive experience and would "learn on the way." (McClure said he had 10 years on County Council and that Brown demonstrated his own shortcomings when he attempted to hire a $750,000 business consultant to do his job, and did award an $86,000 contract for a PR firm).
2) Gracedale lost $30 million when McClure was on Council (McClure retorted that his council hired an administrator).
3) A jail at Gracedale is the result of "political rumors" started by McClure "because he doesn't have anything else to run on." (McClure credited Nazareth citizens who rose up after seeing several news accounts).

Areas of agreement

The candidates did have some areas of agreement. Neither is enthusiastic about a reassessment at this time. Neither supports a tax hike. Both support tax incentives to spur economic development, although McClure said he'd like to see developers forced to prove they are actually creating the jobs promised. Both like the DaVinci Center aquarium concept, but both agree that much more needs to be done to determine how much the county should contribute.

Both support more diversity at the courthouse. But McClure said he'd emulate the example set by DA John Morganelli. Half of his prosecutors are women and he has made minority hires  He hired the first black prosecutor in he history of the county.

In contrast to Morganelli, Brown has suspended the first African American captain who worked at the jail as well as a Latino trainer.

Both were in the audience.

McClure's vision is to encourage as much open space preservation as possible to deter the inevitable big box explosion and the doubling of truck traffic over the next ten years. Brown promises "more of the same," and touted his financial acumen in stabilizing county finances and creating a true balanced budget.
L to R: Beverly Herandez (LWV), Marvin Boyer (NAACP), John Brown,
Lamont McClure, Dr. John Kincaid (Lafayette), Lance Wheeler (NAACP)
Angle Nails Brown on Jail Sites


Wheeler laughs as Angle plants one
on Peg Ferraro
While McClure opened up once, Brown never let you see behind the curtain at all, which hurts him. He had a nervous habit of glossing his lips at least once every two or three minutes and would start smiling whenever McClure went on the offensive, which was pretty much nonstop. But those are minor criticisms. The big question is whether he is transparent.

Brown failed on that count.

Despite substantial evidence to the contrary, Brown denies any intention of building a jail at Gracedale. That denial only came after it became apparent that a jail there is politically unpopular. Brown claimed as recently as June that it would be too costly to rebuild the jail at Easton. Now he wants to build a $185 million jail there without raising taxes.

He's relying on a report from architectural firm DLR that was just released on Tuesday. That report listed seven different options, including greenfield sites.

On Tuesday, Brown told me that the options were based on a generic greenfield, not a specific site. But the report lists different levels of "community support" at the different locations. If this is just some abstract greenfield, the "community support" should be the same.

Wheeler cries as Angle plants one on him.
Last night, McClure asked Brown to list these undisclosed sites. Brown stated again that the report is based on a generic greenfield, and that Lamont McClure is quite the storyteller.

As he began to sit down, someone in the audience smelled a bullshit burger. It was none other than the Northampton County Bulldog, Ron Angle.

"You haven't answered his question?" barked Angle, who demanded to know which sites were considered.

Brown suddenly changed his tune. As Angle pressed, the formerly generic greenfield sites now became "irrelevant" because they were never considered.

That's why I give the win to Ron, or at least an assist..

One county official told me on Tuesday that the sites were confidential, but there is nothing confidential about property already owned by the county.

Now Angle is no friend of Lamont McClure. But he hates bad government, and a government that keeps secrets is bad government.

NAACP and LWV were wonderful

This was the only debate between McClure and Brown. It never would have happened but for the League of Women Voters and Easton's NAACP. Beverly Hernandez and Lance Wheeler deserve our thanks for the work they put into making a night of democracy possible. Lafayette College's Dr.John Kincaid served as moderator. He has performed this chore several times, and brings a quiet dignity that makes these events better.

46 comments:

  1. Sounds McClure comes from a long line of Bureaucrats, The worst handlers of taxpayers money.

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  2. @4:30,
    Since only governments (bureaucrats) determine what is done with taxpayers money what others are you making your comparison?

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  3. McClure won, hands down, poor John Brown could not really answer the questions unless he made up words that don't exist and the zinger of the night was when McClure pointed out JBs real work record before he became the County Executive and the many mistakes that were made in the last 4 years

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  4. I was there...McClueless didn’t answer questions, took shots at Mr Brown about isolated items which happened four years ago and haven’t since then and Mr McClure had NOTHING recently to use because of the success Mr Brown has. Remember, $50M has been put back in the general fund that the Democrats wasted and Gracedale is operating in the black. The jail reached its highest staffing numbers ever due to Mr Browns administration. It was Mr Barron, the unprofessional sloth without decorum who yelled from the back that Mr Brown didn’t answer a question. Leave it to him to act like an animal in a room full of human beings.

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  5. Brown lied again! He definitely knows where the prison was planned for.

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  6. @6:29

    Again when you lose you make up Fake News. The person who yelled out was in the front of the room sitting next to the blogger.
    Funny how when you get your ass handed to you, you make up bullshit.
    brown raised taxes, he is no genius , he RAISED YOUR TAXES to be able to get that fund balance cushion.

    Bur now, You sit here and pretend that his fund balance is from some good government approach you are being disingenuous at best!

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  7. 6:29 AM
    you are completely wrong about the prison they have never reached there staffing levels under brown. they are always short on staff mainly due to his hiring freeze that he instituted during his 1st year leaving the jail 30 some officer down. and then on top of it lower the amount of officers needed because he felt the number that was needed to run the jail was to high and could be done with less personnel. so don't praise brown for his wonderful executorship because it is far from it.

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  8. Brown gets an A for his corporate lingo, however, his tarnished record stands for itself. Every time he gets pinned in a corner, the corporate lingo comes out. Like "Fed Ed" he is delusional in his own self-assessment. The guy was never a corporate executive, a third rate borough mayor and a poor back door manager who cannot hire or promote quality personnel. Besides his non-transparent approach to government, there is no redeeming factors in keeping him on as County Executive.

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  9. anyone expect an unbias report from bo? lol

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  10. So Mr. McClure would not be my 1st choice. However, I am in the ABBB camp. Anyone, and I mean anyone, but Brown and his current crew of cronies, has my vote. I think many of the NC employees feel the same. When you see his and his admin. in action everyday, you really can't wait till this election.

    PLEASE, county employees and your families. You know the damage this guy and his crew have done. Get out and vote!

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  11. 8:21 AM Exactly!!!! County employees...vote out this clown! Anyone is better than Brown. Anyone!

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    1. Let's write in Ron Angle for County Executive. Let's make Northampton County great again!

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  12. Bernie,
    Did Angle bring his infamous attack shit fly's to tell who's who before he began planting his lips for the smootch?

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  13. Make no mistake. McClure is the swamp; the swamp is McClure. An ambulance chasing lawyer who's bought and paid for by unions is very bad for NorCo taxpayers. Now, cue the union whiners from Central Casting ..............

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  14. McClure could use a tailor from a big and tall men's store. He looked like he was dressed for Halloween more than a debate.

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  15. Again: John Brown was the worst Mayor in the history of Bangor. AND , he is the worst Executive in Northampton history.


    He is consistent.

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  16. If McClure wins, they will have to double the staff in the courthouse cafeteria.

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  17. I voted for Brown. He had his chance and proved to me I made a mistake. I believed he was the corporate success he told everyone he was and that he knew how to run a County.
    McClure gets my vote this time. I'd like to see if he can do better. He can't be worse than Brown who hired people that know less than he does.

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  18. "anyone expect an unbias report from bo? lol"

    There is no such thing as an unbiased report. I have a clear McClure bias. I have told my readers I even contributed to his campaign. But I also have an obligation to be honest, and I was. And though it may not strike you as such, I try very hard to be fair.

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  19. " It was Mr Barron, the unprofessional sloth without decorum who yelled from the back that Mr Brown didn’t answer a question. Leave it to him to act like an animal in a room full of human beings."

    As anyone who was there knows, Barron never yelled out. The person who did, Ron Angle, was sitting next to me and is featured in my story. And I'm glad he did bc he essentially forced Brown to admit he had been untruthful about those locations.

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  20. McClure is a bought and paid for union tool and 2/3 of his money comes from outside NorCo. Let that sink in. Who are these outside donors? Where’s the list Bernie? Let’s see it. You’re usually very quick to post such things.

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  21. Yes, I am. The innuendo here is that I am dragging my feet bc it is McClure. This is false. The reports are due today. That means I likely will not get a chance to review them until later today or Monday. When I do, i will on the campaign finance of both candidates. You apparently expect a story before the reports have been filed.

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  22. No one won. The voters only lose.

    People must now pay close attention to the county council candidates. Since neither McClure or Brown have mush of real resume, hopefully some of the council candidates will have the kind of experience and smarts to watch out for people. I plan on going to their debate even though they put it somewhere in Forks Twp. Both Brown and McClure used many words designed more to confuse and inflate than inform. It sounded like their words were like props to make them sound important. Especially Brown and his corporate babble without substance. These guys should have heard themselves.

    Now it is very important to get good people on county council.

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  23. I went, I listened. To hear John Brown you have to believe that no county executive before him ever did anything in the county. I hope Mr. Brown got to rest on the seventh day. Even God gave himself that luxury.

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  24. Brown is just a corporate wanabe who thinks the county is his own private business. That's how his warped mind justifies overpaying unqualified senior staff, allows useless training junkets at taxpayer expense, allows his county administrator to cheat on her taxes and file illegal expense accounts, and so on. This bum should NEVER be allowed a second term. If you think illegal pay raises, gift cards and popcorn machines are excess of power, wait until his next term, God forbid. Corruption will run rampant if Brown the Clown gets reelected.

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  25. Brown is Johnny Casino's legacy.

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  26. As a McClure supporter,I must object to the characterization that he looks portly. He seems to be perfectly within his height and weight norms.

    -Jabba the Hutt

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  27. He, Jim Hunter and I are all in the same Pilates class.

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  28. Prof. Kincaid was good, not superb. Next week he must do a better job of controlling the debate. The minute Angle disrupted the debate,Prof. Kincaid should have shut him down on the spot. Angle will try this next week. He is known for acting like a four year old mini-Trump at events. He has no respect for anything only his own ego.

    You love him, so you cheer him on but others find his self-aggrandizing nonsense to be boring and a pain. It is no wonder that even republican voters dropped him like a rock. Brown looked weak when Angle attacked him. Brown should have just sat down and ignored him, like one does with a petulant child.

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  29. Had he done that and I wish he did he would look both week and secretive I hope rocket scientists like you were giving brown advice

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  30. Hey Bernie, this P3 bridge deal Brown keeps bragging about starting, isn't that a state program that he decided to get involved with? It's not like the guy created the program, he just is taking advantage of a state deal. He is secretive about how much all this will cost the county and what the state will pay. Also bridges have been worked on for decades, how can he say no one ever did anything about them?

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  31. @ 5:04pm

    He lies, that’s why

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  32. Bernie ‘ you you need to have a discussion about this JFK files .

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  33. The JFK files so far released shed no real new light on the assassination. It actually conforms much of what "real" historians have learned over the years. No conspiracy, just an angry, emotionally disturbed young man who wanted to be famous for something.

    Sometimes fate and circumstances coincide and proves that life indeed can be chaotic.

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  34. Brown is a failed excuse for a County Executive. He is a simple liar, has no solutions for bringing a poorly managed County into this century. He has sadly engaged in cronyism and placed inexperienced fools and cheats into important governance roles. I am ashamed to be in the same political party as him. That said, his opponent has no relevant experience and I fear will engage in similar bad moves that will leave this County in poor shape for its many citizens.i very reluctantly will vote for McClure versus throwing my right to vote away. The only losers in this election will be residents of the County. How in God's name did we end up here ??

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  35. Clinton vs. Trump on a local level???

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  36. "Bernie ‘ you you need to have a discussion about this JFK files"

    This story has nothing to do with that, Peter. If you want, send me something. But any story right now is premature. Trump has just authorized the release of information, and I would want to check that.

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  37. Brown's math regarding his spending and saving do snot add up. Sorry, but Party loyalty aside, he is fabricating some statements and promoting them as facts.

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  38. Ron wines here. And I know late como was not about your stuff , Bernie this JFK thing is going to be a big deal , national attention . Good luck to you candidates that are honest and reliable, to the others - you can all drown in the river, Debate me,

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  39. "Ron wines here"

    ????? What wine and who is Ron that does it here?

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  40. Hey Lamont - the 90's are calling. They want your shirt back

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  41. If you’re looking somewhere to sharpen your debate pen http://fordebating.com is the place to hone your debating skill. Unlike forums, Facebook or wherever it’s structured! It’s just you and your opponent (1v1 and 2v2) locked in for 2-6 to rounds. (rather than going on infinitely with random people jumping into the middle of the debate) It's a cage match for your brain!

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