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Monday, November 16, 2009

Would You Like One Dip or Two?

Despite the headline, this story is about law enforcement. Honest!

It's a foregone conclusion that Bethlehem Police Commissioner Randy Miller will be easily confirmed this Thursday as Northampton County's new Sheriff by County Council. After all, he was the unanimous choice of President Judge Kimberly McFadden, Court Administrator Jim Onembo, County Executive John Stoffa and Director of Administration John Conklin. Even Miller's boss, Bethlehem Mayor John Callahan, penned a letter of recommendation. Most would agree that Randy is the First Spear at the Lehigh Valley's finest police department, and that presumably has something to do with him. Who could possibly object to this appointment?

Northampton County Bulldog Ron Angle, of course.

Ron's a little miffed to find out about this appointment from the newspaper. Once word leaked out, apparently in Bethlehem, Angle believes Stoffa owed Council members the courtesy of a call. He's also concerned that no insider was chosen. "What kind of message are we sending to people who already work hard in that department?" he asks. But what really bothers Angle is that Miller will be yet another in a long line of government double dippers.

Who doesn't like a double dip? The private sector.

Sarah Cassi, in her Express Times report, notes that Miller, age 53, will collecting a $64,000 per year public pension on top of the $76,997 public salary proposed by Stoffa. His annual income for managing a less stressful and smaller department will skyrocket from $92,000 to $140,000. That's a great deal for Miller, but what about the taxpayer? "Couldn't he be asked to accept a smaller salary?" asks Angle.

Miller's situation is nothing new. His predecessor, Jeff Hawbecker, was a retired state trooper collecting a pension. Now he's collecting two. In fact, the entire Sheriff's Department is really little more than a retirement home for retired state troopers and ex-Allentown cops. It's very common among teachers, cops and others able to retire young after twenty years on the job.

They will tell you they contributed to their pensions during most of their careers, but neglect to mention that these defined benefit plans require the taxpayer to make up any shortfall.

Now there are those rare employees who actually wait to retire until they're 65, like Executive John Stoffa. I even know one County row office worker in her 70's, who would be nearly impossible to replace. They've earned their pensions. But for tens of thousands of younger state and local workers who retire, this is a scam.

This, along with defined benefit pension plans, need serious reform.

34 comments:

  1. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

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  2. If you take away the defined benefits, then the government should pay private sector salaries to government employees. BO, your comparing apples to oranges.

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  3. How many does Rich Grucela get. Teacher, County, State, A triple dipper. But Bernie likes him.

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  4. Sure I like Grucela. I don't like double or triple dipping. I cannot fault someone for doing what the law permits, but think we need to change the way we do things.

    If Miller were not permitted to double dip, he would likely stay where he is. That would save Bethlehem taxpayers the cost of paying his pension while simultaneously paying for a new comm'r.

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  5. Anon 7:01, How do you determine what the private sector would opay a cop? There is no private sector for that or many other government positions. Salaries paid for many goverment positions that can be compared to the private sector are commensurate w/ what is paid there. People like you, if unhappy with needed pension reform, can always find a job in the private sector that you find so compelling. But it is time for the public sector to stop enslaving the private.

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  6. Anon 2:26 is deleted.

    Bob Daday is a bitter man because Stoffa caught him illegally taking unemployment compensation. He briefly co-hosted a radio show that took every opportunity to slam Stoffa untl he was called on it by Ron Angle and by me. He then ran for the hills like the coward he is, claiming he had meetings every Friday with Att'y John Karoly.

    I am relatively certain that the crazy person who tries to blame everything on Stoffa is this disgraced and bitter old Reibman crony. I find it hard to believe tow people could be that nutz.

    I will delete anything he posts here.

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  7. Don't forget the Famous Glenn Reibman
    School Pension; County Pension; a cake job with the Bridge Commission and soon another Pension

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  8. Bernie, funny video about health care

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4

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  9. hm... charlie dent served in the state house and state senate... I am sure when he packs it in from his political career, he will have a few cushy pensions to draw from. if he was to lose an election, he would be eligible to receive them too.

    the system needs reform, but seeing as politicians benefit from the pensions if they ever loose, I wouldn't count on it.

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  10. This blog is nothing more than a campaign tool for Ron Angle.

    Ron angle makes donation$ to Bernie, who lives below the poverty level.

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  11. Typical flames from someone who has no argument.

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  12. My argument is a mute point with someone who is in bed with the extremist wing of county council.

    Pay your own way OHare.

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  13. Bernie, Will not Paul McHale set the record for public pensions.I see state legislator,congressman,Homeland security and U.S.M.C. I always thought someone would give him a judgeship so he could collect one more.I forgot the people worship McHale.

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  14. correction - moot point

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  15. This double dip thing is the 1st thing I thought of when I heard the news. Kind of figured you pick up on that.

    We just have to stop the 20 years and out for government jobs and start using service time/age combination graduated formulas.

    Rarely, in the private sector, will a company pay you a full pension after 20 years w/o calculating age expectancy formulas. This is how they determine their monthly payouts costs to their retirement funds.

    Even Social Security works this way and look at the trouble they're in.

    Time to stop this kind of stuff.

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  16. Grucela is a an ineffective seat filler and a sponge for taxpayer funded pensions. Sadly, while he's better at the scam than most, he's just one of many.

    He and his political ilk represent everything that makes politicians and their appointments one of the most hated sectors of society.

    It's time to cut off the gravy train for these leeches; many of whom have never earned a private sector dollar in their lives.

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  17. I think he's an excellent state rep. who does well for his community and we are lucky to have him. if he were the hack you portray him to be, i;d suspect that someone would hae challenged him any one of the last 4 times he ran. His District is composed of both Dems and Republicans.

    I think there is a lot of personal animosity in your anonymous attack. You've got him on double dipping. That system needs to change. But attack the problem, not the person.

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  18. Grucela's a great guy. It's his contemptible constituents who've never done a thing in their lives.

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  19. Dont be a hater. jealous ones.

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  20. I'm one of them thar' contemptible Grucela constituents. I've voted for him every time he's run. Sometimes twice. He's a good man who cares about the people he represents.

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  21. I think it is unfair and frankly stupid to attack a good man like Randy Miller for having a pension he earned. Mr. Angle has praised Mr. Stoffa and he recieves multiple pensions, will he ask him to accept less pay?

    To also tear down Jeff Hawbecker is cruel. These men earned their pensions. Mr. Angle lives in a glass house when it comes to how people earn their money. Some of us know exactly how he "earned" his money.

    Bernie I think you are being hypocritical as is the Press and reporter Cassi for questioning and writing about Mr. Miller's pension.

    A question for Ms. Cassi and Mr. Krauss, why I have I never read an article now or over the past four years about the amount of money from public pensions Mr. Stoffa receives?

    This is not an attack on Mr. Stoffa because he is not doing anything wrong, neither was Mr. Hawbecker or Mr. Miller. It does point out the double standard of you Bernie, Ms. Cassi and the media depending on who the person is.

    I would like to know what Mr. Stoffa's public pension's pay out? And why Mr. Angle never demanded any give backs.

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  22. By the way I am not anon or this Dady guy, I am Randy!

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  23. With O'Hare's rational, he wouldn't pay veterans their pension that they earned, if they got a job in local government. It doesn't matter that they risked their lives for that pension that they earned. "Fuck em" is Bernie's answer.

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  24. Randy, you asked some good questions.

    The Press never mentioned the Stoffa pensions when he ran either time.

    How much are his pensions anyway? It would be interseting to know, sine they have published other peoples pensions. why the special exemption for Stoffa?

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  25. I don't know. he told me and I forgot. I don't consider pensions by a 70 yearold man an issue. I do consider pensions by a 53 year old man something that should be looked at more closely. Miller is essentially looking for a 50% pay hike to do less work. I think it's entirely reasonable to ask him if he'd be willing to accept less. And we really need to change our whole pension system.

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  26. "With O'Hare's rational, he wouldn't pay veterans their pension that they earned, if they got a job in local government. It doesn't matter that they risked their lives for that pension that they earned. "Fuck em" is Bernie's answer."

    Good point. Pension reform should make provisions for veterans.

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  27. So a vetrern who never sees combat should be exempted but a police official or FBI agent who faced death should not. Your goofy logic is a slippery slope Ohare.

    It is also neat how you quickly dismiss the comments about Stoffa due to "age" of recepient. He was not 70 when he took office. Maybe the question should be why does an exhausted 70 year old Stoffa hope to accomplish for the 35% pay hike he gets next year. Unfair? You bet. But then so is your dismissive nature.

    What he told you is not relevant. Why the press have not asked or wrote about it is very interesting?

    So age and being a veteren are OK by your standards. What other things are fine in the bizzaro world known as the Ohariverse?

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  28. I'd give a veteran a pass. I think the public would buy that. It would stop there. The public is tired of footing the bills for cop homes at the beach.

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  29. Cops or lifetime bureacrats that become County Executive. The same is the same.

    You are a hypocrite.

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  30. I see a big difference between a 70 year old man who spent a career in Human Services collecting a retirement he earned, and a 42 year old cop, but that's me.

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  31. Hey Morning Call and Easton Express we are still waiting on a story about Mr. Stoffa's public pensions. When can we expect it? Anyone?? Anyone there??? Ms. Cassi??? Mr. Duck???? Mr. Krauss????

    Just as we thought and you wonder why people do not respec tthe papers.

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  32. The difference is the 42yo cop was in a extremely stressful environment for the 20years where as the Human Services person was more than likely a desk jockey, and didn't have to wonder if he will see his family ever day. That is a huge difference.

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  33. Right on, Stoffa is a lifetime desk jockey who has been in the bureacracy for a hundred years. He gets his pensions and a 35% raise. Lucky him.

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