Some inside scuttlebutt.
State senator Lisa Boscola will retain potty-mouth Bernie Kieklak as her chief of staff. She makes this decision with complete knowledge that her number one's vocabulary includes a lot of number two. She does so knowing that Kieklak has no remorse, as indicated by statements like "Do you think I care?" and "I do not regret a single thing I have ever done in my entire life". She is ignoring overwhelming pressure to dump him.
Kieklak will be forced to undergo anger management counseling and agree to an official sounding "condition of employment" that means nothing. Maybe wash his mouth out with soap, too.
Expect the news to hit the mainstream very soon.
Update: Mainstream Micek, our spy from inside the land of midnight payraises, cautions us to be ... well ... more cautious. "State Sen. Lisa Boscola, D-Northampton, Will announce the fate of embattled aide Bernie Kieklak today. Despite what you may have read elsewhere, there hasn't been a formal announcement yet. Stay tuned today. We'll bring you the news as it happens." Inside word is that potty-mouth stays.
Today's one-liner: "The shortest way to the distinguishing excellence of any writer is through his hostile critics." Richard LeGallienne
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Tuesday, June 19, 2007
42 comments:
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I'm sure it will headline the Morning Call tomorrow. I'm very disappointed, I thought very highly of her, I hate to think my admiration was misplaced, but I guess it was.
ReplyDeleteI doubt you'll see it tomorrow, but you'll see it soon.
ReplyDeleteLook at this way Bernie, you have brought attention (not that you need any help) to this blog communication device.
ReplyDeleteI for one, have to post as anon but speak the truth in my post's, just as BTNP did. Where else would this be available?
I'm not defending his rants although deep down inside, I'm sure many people share his sexist and probably racists views but are afraid to speak the truth in main stream media.
What crime did he commit?
BTNP did not speak the truth. He engaged in a series of stinging sexist remarks, including disparaging sexual references. He suggested destroying an entire population with nukes. He spoke derisively about both Muslim and Christian religions. He refused to express any kind of remose. He mocked reform efforts like open records reform. This is you, too?
ReplyDeleteNone of this is a crime. That's not the point. Nobody wants to put him in jail. The question is not whether this is criminal, but whether we want people like this in the state senate. Many people who visit Harrisburg to see Boscola end up seeing him. I , for one, prefer public servants who aren't sexist. I'm funny that way.
I'm disgusted by the thought that he's in a public position.
If you visit the online forums at either of the mainstream papers, you'll see the LV is full of nasty people who make horrible statements. I agree that there are others who feel that way. But that does not make it right.
We're better than this, aren't we? You honestly admit harboring those same feelings? What, that Sam Bennett has a plastic pussy? That a female blogger spends 4 hours every night deciding whether to wear the fuck me like the slut I am pumps? If that is how you honestly think, then you're the only one who says so on this blog. And I'll tell you it's twisted thinking that demonstrates disdain for women and intolerance. It actually discourages what a blog is intended to promote - free and open discussion. That's impossible with a person who does not treat you with tolerance.
Bernie.
ReplyDeleteToo much Bernie talk not enough Severson. If you take down Severson then i will call you king. I gave you some clues just put the puzzle together.
I'll never take Severson down. But he may take himself down.
ReplyDeleteThe only truth in the Kieklak saga is that he needs to be fired. Hauled out by the scruff of his neck and kicked in the ass as he passes over the threshhold. If Boscola lacks the intergrity and courage to fire his stupid ass, then the caucus in Harrisburg ought to do it pretty damn quick.
ReplyDeleteIf that does not come to pass, then Boscola needs to be given the same election result as another arrogant p.o.s. from the senate: chip brightbill who lost his seat to a used tire salesman. I hope the good people of the Lehigh Valley will bring this matter to a positive solution.
He could just sue. I mean BTNP contract was that he made off color remarks.
ReplyDeleteBernie,
ReplyDeleteI can tell a few of the inner circle want you to go OT and jump back at Severneon. I have seen alot over the years and have read your blogs on this BK issue. By the time Lisa runs again she will probably win by over 70% again. Even with BK at her side. But I think its important you shine a light on it.
I disagree with a few of the annon.s about their take on this and even the statements that blame her entire staff. I personally know people from the Reibman Administration that were upset with things that happened and felt somewhat betrayed by bad judgement. They decided to just continue to do their jobs the best they could.
This is a big deal in many ways, whether you staying on top of this results in one voter doing differently isn't the point. The point is there are good people who don't always agree on things but don't resort to this type of behavior to be cool or hip or feel powerful. Civil discourse can and will have rough edges and edgey rumor. I know many people I have disagreed with, but at the same time admired how they handled themselves publicly. If you work in the public sector it is a requirement. I respect Stoffa even though I disagree with many of his decisions, hell I even respect you.
Even Steven
Just got off my shift and read this.
ReplyDeleteI think Carpenter of the MC did a good job of detailing the sorid story of this pair. They deserve each other. I feel bad for the husband. We all enjoy freedom of speech and we must all be willing to accept the consequences of our words and actions. To justify this as some great constitutional exercise is spinnning to the highest degree. Good job Bernie in laying it out there. If people are ok with this thats their problem. Enough with the oh I have a drinking problem. Bernie O and I are mentally unbalanced and we aren't complaining. I cannot support her or her endorsed candidates again.
No surprise here.
ReplyDeleteBernie,
ReplyDeleteYou got a plug from Ken Matthews on WGPA today.See all is not bad ,you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.( Maybe not)
Too bad he's done on Thursday,but he did'nt do it for me anyway.
Ken Matthews thinks BK should be fired too. Bernie.. Today Ken said he liked your blog and gave out your blog name which he wouldn't do for 2 weeks. But now that he is done at WGPA , I guess he figured.. what the heck. But he did really say he enjoyed your blog and agreed with everything you said about BK aka Joseph Goebbels. I don't know were Ken M is going from here but he worked for 3 weeks at WGPA for free and him and Timmer can't come to a payscale agreement, so Bernie o... You were right again.
ReplyDeleteLooks like another Talk show host up for grabs, I'll do the show for free just for fun,get some sponsors and look out here come's your new man in the morning. Can't be too hard ,Stern,Imus and me,I'm going national.
ReplyDeleteThe Morning Call just reported online that it's offical... BNTP is keeping his job.
ReplyDeleteC said...
ReplyDeleteThe Morning Call just reported online that it's offical... BNTP is keeping his job.
4:31 PM
Yes, and as I feared, Republicans are already calling Democrats out on their double standard in the MCall Topix Forum. If Kieklak had been Dent's C.O.S., Democrats would be marching in the streets.
Bernie Kieklak is a very effective administrator, and has been, for several decades of employment with pay from our taxes as a Commonwealth Aide to many. He has also crossed way over the line recently thinking was only as a private citizen, in my strong opinion. In fact, once in public service, rules deserve to be much more stringent, and now he finally knows to his detriment. Wish "any and all" folks he has ever served
ReplyDeletefor our good Senator Boscola, and others would also come to support him as I surely do here. If you don't personally know my good Senator, her family, staff & Bernie Kieklak, you may never be able to understand what good public servants they have all been for our entire community. Get well soon, Bernie and continue your "good" works! We all make many mistakes! This too will pass, I pray. larry@kisslinger.com
Larry,
ReplyDeleteOf course this incident will pass, just like all the other "incidents" involving Boscola and Kieklak have passed. The problem is that it should not pass. Outrageous behavior should not be forgiven because someone is a decent public servant.
Boscola should have fired him. Kieklak's behavior has crossed the line many times before, and now he just got another slap on the wrist.
BethlehemDem@gmail.com
May I have some of Mr. Kisslinger's Kool-Aid?
ReplyDeleteOHH YEEAAHHH!
anyone care to share the url of the mcall topix forum as referenced by radcenter?
ReplyDeletethanks
7:13 PM Anonymous said...May I have some of Mr. Kisslinger's Kool-Aid? OHH YEEAAHHH! larry@kisslinger.com says: How can I give you my Kool-Aid if you don't identify yourself? I have gallons of the stuff in my home! Please identify yourself and I'll be very happy to elaborate my position to you, once again! I hope I'm entitled to my opinion about this subject without your cowardly, anon response. Same goes for BethlehemDem@gmail.com
ReplyDelete7:11PM, whoever that is?
Dear Larry:
ReplyDeleteThe reason I remain anonymous is because I have a cowardly fear of grown men who invite me over to their house for Kool-Aid.
However, I promise you I don't take my fear out in vulgar rants against young women, Christians or Muslims.
I leave that to your pal, Bernie K. Hey, you know what! Maybe you should offer him some of your Kool-Aid -- because the stuff he's drinking now is not helping him.
BethlehemDem does not deserve to be called a coward, Mr. Kisslinger. He merely stated an opposite opinion of yours. He did not call you any names.
ReplyDeleteWhat BTNP said was wrong, in fact he'll probably be jumped in the street at some point this musikfest by some drunken angry hubby bennet or baby bennet, or perhaps a mr. lolv, or even a bloodthirsty mob of allied feminist, republican, and muslim thugs.
ReplyDeleteBut the fact is that his posts were anonymus, and would have held alot less clout if they had remained so.There is a segment of the population that believes in just saying anything whether it is sexist or racist or not as long as we know that what we are saying will not be taken seriously.
Now look at all the headlines you grabbed for kiekland and boscola by outing him as a potential bigot.
In politics, "any attention is good attention," and "anything that doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
He kept his job which is all people will remember in 5yrs, 3yrs, hell maybe even this coming election.
But with that said, If kiekland finds a fire at his doorstep tonight, I wouldn't be surprised if his comments about Charlie Dent come back to haunt him.
i hope he's wearing shoes when he tries to stomp out a FLAMING SHIT BAG!!
ps. THE KOOL AIDE IS SEMEN!! IT'S SEMEN!!
Anonymous 8:20PM said: Dear Larry:
ReplyDelete"The reason I remain anonymous is because I have a cowardly fear of grown men who invite me over to their house for Kool-Aid. However, I promise you I don't take my fear out in vulgar rants against young women, Christians or Muslims.
I leave that to your pal, Bernie K. Hey, you know what! Maybe you should offer him some of your Kool-Aid -- because the stuff he's drinking now is not helping him.
larry@kisslinger.com responds: I'll make certain my wife of 42 years, 2 Daughters, 4 Grandkids, neighbors, friends and your own list of folks are here when you visit so you can feel safe and secure. Your stupid assertions here are bordering as bad as BK's have recently been. Please don't call me Dear until we get to know each other! Your vulgar rants only against old Christian men or what?
Also, anon 7:38 PM asks: "anyone care to share the url of the mcall topix forum as referenced by radcenter? thanks". Answer: Just search mcall.com with Kieklak and you will find all recently there.
Umm. Isn't "Dear" the standard way to address someone you don't know?
ReplyDeleteJust asking -- please don't invite me over to your house.
Anonymous 8:31 PM BethlehemDem does not deserve to be called a coward, Mr. Kisslinger. He merely stated an opposite opinion of yours. He did not call you any names. Larry Kisslinger said: identify yourself... I hope I'm entitled to my opinion about this subject without your cowardly, anon response. Same goes for BethlehemDem@gmail.com 7:11PM, whoever that is?
ReplyDeletemy intention for BDEM was my opinion vs. whoever that is? & not the cowardly portion! wish I was more careful with my comments. My apologies to BDEM, whoever that is?...and all here.
News flash from Anonymous 9:06 PM
Umm. Isn't "Dear" the standard way to address someone you don't know?
Just asking -- please don't invite me over to your house. Larry says:
My Dear numbskull anon is now officially uninvited to my family home forever, unless apology to me and BK is accepted by both of us!
Larry --
ReplyDeleteWill Bernie K be there? I just want to know if it would be safe to bring my young daughters.
If he stepped out of line and said something uncouth -- would you toss him out of your home while your family and friends and mine are socializing?
Are you going to have him on a strict no-alcohol watch? Also, is this before or after he gets Anger Management counseling at the expense of myself and other taxpayers?
I think it is important we go over the ground rules on this block party that you're throwing for me.
Will I be allowed to sit in your favorite chair? Should I bring anything. Chips? Dip? Anything?
What kind of music do you like? I have some decent mix tapes, but it would help to know. Unless you're providing the music. That's cool, too. I like the Beatles, the Police and some of the new stuff. I'm not very big on rap music though. Are you?
Also, my anonymity is important to me. So I wear a wrestling mask when I go out. Is that fine with you? You're not going to try and rip it off of my head are you? Let me tell you, a lot of better wrestlers than you have tried -- and none have succeeded!
I know this seems like a great number of points to deal with, but we can work them out. You and I are both reasonable men.
You invite random bloggers over to your house and I just wasted fifteen minutes of my life posting this. See, we're both completely reasonable.
Now, I'm going to have to say goodnight.
I tell ya, they've got to be doing the horizontal bop. How else can you explain them?
ReplyDeletebernie,love your forum, like watching judge judy with all the litigants. some funny,some with twisted logic,all entertaining.its either this or rearranging my sock drawer.after reading all about the lisa and bernie k. show i had a flashback...headline... tonya harding has goon wack nancy kerrigan in knees with baton. it just never gets better than this
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 9:06PM said: please don't invite me over to your house. Larry says: Dear numbskull anon is now officially uninvited to my family home forever, unless apology to me and BK is accepted by both of us! 9:18 PM and now numbskull anon wants ground rules
ReplyDelete"after" uninvited and a refused visit. Which is it? Also, threat to me "You're not going to try and rip it off of my head are you? Let me tell you, a lot of better wrestlers (LK never wrestled) than you have tried and none have succeeded"! LK says: You are not Clark Kent, I pray! I suppose you don't have to be consistent, rationale or make any sense at all when nobody knows your identity! must feel great to get things "off your chest" in cowardly fashion! I wouldn't know as I never hide who I am from anybody, about anything. Try it you might like the feeling!
Merely say what you mean and mean what you say and folks "should" respect your opinion. I know I would! Please forget the threats if you don't know how to fight fairly with words, especially in anonymity, I have assurances from Bush Administation for security protection and my wife has copies of these emails if anything foul ever happens to me. Yes, I invite random bloggers over to my house and I just wasted an hour of "my" life posting to an anon. At least you know who you're posting to as I have no idea who you are. Now, "I'm" going to have to say goodnight and God Bless.
Anon 7:38, A link to the MCall forum is here.
ReplyDeleteHey folks! Shhh. Do you hear the popping sounds? That's Republicans throughout the LV opening bottles of champagne.
ReplyDeleteI think that was this proves is that Lisa has no Congressional ambitions. If she did, he would have been done. For the Dems, we now can either hope for Wallitsch or acknowledge that we are stuck with Sam Bennett.
ReplyDeleteBernie, I think you hit the nail on the head. Republicans are thrilled. Dent is safe. ::
I know Lisa's family and I know Larry K. I respect Lary K. and I know his feelings about the anonn.'s but I feel it is important to note something here. I am not upset with anyone's private behavior, what BK and Lisa do behind closed doors is their business. That changed after the DUI and then continued use of alcohol. We lost a family member many years ago before tough DUI laws. I can't help it but that behavior is unacceptable and can cause great grief and agony for a family. People can do what they want in their private lives but some things are not acceptable.
ReplyDeleteDear Anon 1:44 AM
ReplyDeleteI am sorry for your loss of your family member to a DUI. However, thank you for your post. It made me think about this whole BTNP episode. Lisa Boscola has announced what is acceptable to her.
The only person I can change is myself. I can only set standards for myself. I can try to change others, either by example or through the ballot box. Since I failed the former, I will resort to the latter. Others will have to choose by their own standards, values and mores.
to the Anons... I want Bernie Kieklak fired too, however, it's not going to happen. Just read my posts from the last week. Anyway, perhaps a month ago, Larry Kisslinger stated that anons and stage names can please email him so he knows who he is talking to and it would still be confidential. So I figured that that is a fair request, so I did. I had a pleasent surprize. Larry and I disagree on Bernie K but we agree on probably 95% of other topics. Even though I want BK fired and Larry Doesn't, I have had fun conversing with him and have gotten to know him somewhat. He has been in public service for decades and I would Never question his commitment to his community, his country, his faith, his family , or his morals. Email him yourself and you will learn this as I myself have. Thank you.
ReplyDeleteRiver why don't you to just get a room.
ReplyDeleteRandy said' spelling wrong on to,I wanted to type (too),sorry.
ReplyDeleteRandy Did you mean Larry and I should get a room? That would be spelled "two" " why don't you TWO just get a room" :):):)
ReplyDeleteThanks to river for kind comments!
ReplyDeleterandy said...River why don't you to just get a room. 11:00 PM
randy said...Randy said' spelling wrong on to, I wanted to type (too), sorry. 11:04 PM
river said... Randy Did you mean Larry and I should get a room? That would be spelled "two" why don't you TWO just get a room"?
10:50 AM
larry@kisslinger.com says: Hey Randy, luckily, your "stage name" isn't Einstein as you failed in
"TWO" attempts to spell the number 2 with your nonsensical comments here! Get a grip on life and come out of the closet during our lifetime would be refreshing!
You're the one who should "get a room" with all other stage named (except river who has advised me of real identity) and anon's always commenting here! Ya gotta
come clean as to who you are if you ever want respect!
Larry Kisslinger said...
ReplyDelete"all other stage named (except river who has advised me of real identity) and anon's always commenting here! Ya gotta
come clean as to who you are if you ever want respect!"
Bernie O'Hare said...
"Larry's an ornery old bastard like me. He'll grow on you. And you're right. Most of the anon commenters are people with very good points and I love and am enriched by the give and take. It's only a sad few who cause problems."
If I am correct, Bernie O'Hare owns this blog, not you Larry. Bernie respects Anons. And the Anons respect Bernie. That's all that matters. So do us all a favor. Please, come down off the soap box with the rest of us and stop with denegrating words such as coward. I really do respect your opinions, just not your attacks. And for those that attack you Larry, we see them for what they are anyway. Don't fall down to their level. Look what happened to your friend BK.