At yesterday's meeting of the Northampton County Elections Commission, conducted in County Council Chambers (and available on YouTube), the Board heard from 36 people. These included Democrats, Republicans, elections workers and the current as well as the former Chair of the county Democratic party. That alone took about 90 minutes. After the public was heard, the Board voted along party lines (Democrats yes, Republicans, no) to explore and implement the addition of up to 3 drop boxes in addition to 7 existing drop boxes. They also plan to continue up to 6 "pop-up" elections at various locations throughout the count. Their next meeting is scheduled for October 20 at 5 pm.
The Elections Commission is a five-member body established under the Home Rule Charter. It consists of no more than three members of the political party that received the most votes in the most recent general election, with the remaining two seats for the political party that received the second largest number of votes. It ostensibly exists to administer elections, but since it has no power over the purse and no separate budget, it has basically been little more than a whipping boy for voters with grievances.
The current members consist of Democrats Sharon Gavin-Levy, Becky Bartlett and Richard Groff as well as Republicans Scott Hough (who participated by phone yesterday) and Shawn Welch. They heard a lot of complaints as well as a number of requests.
Complaints came mostly from Republicans and are best summed up by remarks made by Jay Martin. He noted that there have been numerous election mishaps extending back several years. He argued that before expanding pop-up elections or adding drop boxes, the elections office needs to "get the basics right. You do not fix repeated errors by adding complexity. Stop expanding. Stop experimenting."
Realtor Robert Dandi called drop boxes "glorified garbage cans." He complained that the county elections process fits the definition of insanity because officials keep doing the same thing, expecting different results.
One voter who works for the RNC complained that "if they find out you are a Republican, they won't listen to you." She called for the removal of the entire elections office.
On the other side of the ideological spectrum, former Elections Comm'r Margie DeRenzis responded to some among the 36 speakers who contend they are ignored. She said that during her five years as an elections commissioner, each and every complaint was taken seriously and addressed by the Registrar. "But as we all know, where there are humans, there will be human error. I don't know any way of fixing that in any field of life, not just our elections."
DeRenzis was among a cascade of voters who are seeking additional drop boxes, primarily in the Saucon Valley area. The main reason why Saucon Valley voters would like more drop boxes is because two voting precincts have been closed, and the closest replacement that elections official could find was at the Stabler arena, which actually is located in Bethlehem.
They also expressed concerns over President Donald Trump's Executive Order and subsequent guidelines by the USPS that could interfere with Mail-in Voting. DeRenzis noted that Trump's threat to send ICE officers to polling places would have a chilling effect on legitimate Hispanic voters. Mail-in voting would alleviate that concern.
After listening to the public, Comm'rs heard from Solicitor Michael Vargo. He said ballots will be printed once the courts rule on whether Andrew Tupone stays or must be removed from the ballot.
Voting Registrar Chris Commini apologized to the Board and the public for a meeting that had to be canceled because he failed to post the agenda, and said that miscue was entirely his own fault.
He then addressed some of the concerns raised by the public.
He noted that, except for a Deputy Registrar, his office is fully staffed.
As far as drop boxes are concerned, he told everyone that drop boxes must be under video surveillance, indoors, chained and ADA complaint.
He asked for help finding polling places, saying he would appreciate public input.
He explained the purging process, something he and his predecessors have done several times. A person basically has to stop voting for five years before becoming inactive.
He addressed the complaint of dead people on the polling books. He said his office looks at obituaries, receives reports from family members and gets periodic reports from the state Department of Health as well as the Coroner's office.
He agreed to look into making the elections webpage more user friendly and to look for larger signs to direct voters to polling places.
The four pop-up sites being considered for the general election are Upper Mount Bethel Tp Municipal Bldg (10/6), Pen Argyl (10/14), Lower Saucon, and Lafayette College (10/15).
My personal opinion is that while Lafayette College is fine in a primary, it is a bad choice for a general election because it will unfairly tilt the vote towards a heavily Democratic college crowd, just as a pop-up election at some field and game club would tilt Republican. I think it probably violates the Pa Constitution's requirement of a "free and equal" election.
I also agree that there have been too many errors in recent years to throw in pop-up elections.
One of the 36 people who spoke last night was a gentleman named Phillip Godbane (sp?). He said his wish this election cycle is that NorCo stays out of the national news spotlight.
democrats will try anything in order to cheat during elections they have no shame
ReplyDeleteIt’s about time that strong Democrats show their strength. Tired of the old school Rebullykins bulldozing over everything. Enough!
DeleteNo voter ID but you need an ID even to deposit money into your OWN account. Yes, democrats cheat. It’s pure and simple otherwise there’s no reason on this planet why voter ID isn’t used. Third world countries have more secure elections. Pathetic.
Delete250 years was a good run, but the empire is fallen.
ReplyDeleteLike I said in the meeting last night, the county has not done an acceptable job of running a fair and transparent election. Democrat, Republican, Democrat, and Independent voters all agree on this. The Election Commission needs to do its job first, before it tries new ways to put its many thumbs on the scales.
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I don’t agree with this and many others don’t.
DeleteNo election is perfect, dating back to when it took weeks to figure out who won national races or when party stalwarts would buy a round at a bar and then get them all to vote.
There’s also the myth that “We always knew on Election Night.”
Those were not official results, just media projections.
Lafayette College! Lol. Then they look you in the eye and say we’re handling this in a non partisan way. What a joke!
ReplyDeleteThis is in my view illegal. A "pop-up" at a college campus, unless it is Liberty U, is designed to tilt the election towards Democrats. I do not mind this in a primary but think it is improper in a general and am ashamed that this is being pushed by my own party. It is blatantly putting the thumb on the scales.
DeleteI appreciate your honesty. I hope they pursue legal action. I thought Lehigh is where all the problems were so why Lafayette??
DeleteGlad you called it out Bernie. It’s the truth.
DeleteFair and balanced. Thanks Bernie
DeleteDemocrats are never on the right side of any issue That party is doing itself in. How can anyone get behind this party.
ReplyDeleteThey aren't mistakes. It's purposeful cheating. It's the only way Democrats can win. I support it. If youy're not cheating you're not trying. Cry cry cry hateful Rethuglicans. You don't own the process and you never will. Looking at you toothless classless Slate Belters. Maybe it's time for you to just move. Bye.
ReplyDeleteSo, basically same o same o with even more chances to screw up another election.
ReplyDeleteWhy bother to have a meeting because you know you are going to ignore any input other than what you want to hear. Just go ahead and shove it to the voters.
ReplyDeleteNorco election committee, AKA the keystone Kops - Our way or the highway.
ReplyDeleteNorthampton will make national news again.
ReplyDeleteIf Trump disrupts mail-in voting, drop boxes will become more important.
ReplyDeleteThe Election Commission meetings are becoming dens of conspiracy theories and unproven nonsense.
As noted, the commission has no authority yet they get beaten like a rented mule.
No matter what happens, there will be a MAGA element that blames every loss on cheating. Their sense of entitlement is strong.
A few of the people who spoke spewed nonsense. Dandi claimed thousands voted illegally in Jersey, when the reality is that 6,600 noncitizens were registered illegally when renewing driver licenses and 640 0f those voted. One woman who preceded Margie DeRenzis, Brigid?, was one who claimed that people have three voting addresses and repeated a number of conspiracy theories.
DeleteMost of the people who spoke had legitimate concerns. At least a third wanted more, not less, drop boxes. Some asked for larger directional signs at pollijng places. Others wanted maps at old polling places with stick maps to the new ones. One person wanted all the write-in candidates spelled out in each race, which Commini said he just can't do. One person wanted minutes posted immediately, but they have to be approved before they can be posted. One person complained his precinct changed and his entire family is still waiting for new cards. Some complained about election workers. One speaker said he was actually elected as a minority inspector and was never notified, and when he brought it to the elections office, they argued with him at first and eventually conceded he was right.
Yes, there were conspiracy theorists, but there were also people who had some interesting points. The overwhelming themes were (1) a lot of requests for additional drop boxes and (2) a request that the elections office conduct a few error-free elections before expanding with pop-ups that result in very few votes.
Nobody mentioned the inherent unfairness of a pop-up at a liberal college campus. That is my concern and I am no conspiracy theorist.
True. One thing people make much of are multiple registrations. It’s no big deal. When people move they register somewhere new but most don’t “unregister” at their old address.
DeleteThat earlier registration will be purged in time.
I’m not aware if Northampton County, for example, contacts the previous county. It’s not a serious problem and these people aren’t criminals or voting twice.
Appreciate the clarification. I’m sure once fully investigated the assertion will become reality.
DeleteAnd to be clear they’re glorified garbage cans because that’s where they throw away election integrity.
You can’t fix stupid.
ReplyDelete"... it is a bad choice for a general election because it will unfairly tilt the vote towards a heavily Democratic college crowd, just as a pop-up election at some field and game club would tilt Republican." Hmmm, getting more people to vote and having access to vote, no matter what the location or tilting D/R. That is not the problem. Voter apathy and voting access has been the problem, not only in Northampton County, but in the U.S. in general. I have seen voting booths on christian church properties. Unfair to Muslims, Jews or Atheists? You can argue any place is tilted one way or another, but for, possibly secondary educational facilities. Aren't public schools, by law, to avail their properties to the public?
ReplyDeleteMargie Derenzis literally called President Trump a liar in her remarks. I’m so glad she was able to enlighten me as to all of the mis and disinformation I’m presently apparently living in here in the US. Her apparent affinity for the registrar and that office was interesting as she also tried to cover her own butt from the last five years. Charles Baltic made several excellent points(namely, you have to acknowledge that there’s a problem before you can fix a problem). He presented legitimate reports designating previous problems in elections. So what did the commission vote to do? Yep, voted for more experiments. Unbelievable!
ReplyDeleteDeRenzis defended claims that the elections registrar and the elections commission do not listen to people or take them seriously. The fact that the EC listened to 36 people demonstrates that claim is false. The fact that Commini responded to many of the criticisms very specifically indicates he does pay attention. And I no longer recall the exact words she used, but it's no secret that Trump lies all the time. His biggest lies concern elections. He did say that thousands of illegals voted in New Jersey and that is false. He did threaten to bring ICE to the polls, and DeRenzis correctly observed that this would suppress the vote among Hispanics who are US citizens. I would add that, aside from constables, law enforcement within 100' of a polling place are illegal in Pa. I do see the need for more drop boxes in light of the closure of several precincts in Lower Saucon and the possible interference by USPS with MIBs.
DeleteAs for Baltic, I referred to what he said. But some of his and Dandi's points are beyond the ability of the county to change. MIBs are state law, not county law.
As for pop-ups, I agree that we should hold off on those, and certainly should not have a pop-up in an area that is heavily Dem or heavily R. This just puts the thumb on the scales. and interferes with the constitutional mandate of a free and fair election.
Party line votes on hyper-politicized policies are exactly the problem. Lehigh County’s proposed Election Board structure (voters will weigh in this November as a referendum), spearheaded by Commissioner Fevig, would reduce that partisan nature, at least in theory, by adding a fifth Independent member.
ReplyDeleteThe structure would be 2 Democrats, 2 Republicans and 1 Independent. It also removes the County Executive as a voting member while keeping them involved in an ad-hoc role. I think it is important to maintain that direct line to the Executive Branch without giving the Executive partisan control of the board.
Decisions would no longer be automatically or default to partisanship by design.
I had no idea that you are a fan of Margie, Bernie. Her condescending tone partnered with her words made it impossible to listen to her (even if one wanted to do so).Just wait until the voting fraud is truly revealed. The elections office has made huge errors. in the past and just saying “Oops, sorry” doesn’t cut it,
ReplyDeleteThis post is not about your bizarre disdain for DeRenzis. People can watch her remarks and determine for themselves whether she was condescending. She corrected several people who preceded her making claims that simply are untrue. And yes, the office has made huge errors in 2023 and 2018 or 2019. I believe the continue to make errors, and there is no excuse for e-pollbooks that would have allowed half the mail-in voters to come in and vote a second time. There is no excuse for the repeated error of sending the wrong ballots. That's why I'd drop the pop-ups for now. The extra drop boxes are ok with me bc it does not burden the elections office.
DeleteNothing bizarre, Bernie, She was smirking at Republicans when they spoke the entire time she was there.
DeleteElections should be held on a Saturday. Make it a national holiday. No mail in, only in person unless a valid reason like health problems or traveling.
ReplyDeleteHow dumb and lazy are college students? Colleges are filled with Nieman Marxists who can't stand dirty working people.
ReplyDeleteI am a R voter. That being said, mail in voting is not going away. R's need to embrace it! Vs spending energy fighting it. I think the popups etc need to be postponed, because as noted, there have been some issues with the regular election process. In addition, I agree that there should be verifiable ID to vote.
ReplyDeleteIt seems negligent that it's 60 days from the election and they still haven't hired a deputy. It's been vacant since before the primary. Is there really not a single qualified person for the job within Northampton County? They're laying down another rake to step on.
ReplyDeleteShape the boxes like a turkey so people know where to put the stuffing.
ReplyDeleteOpen season for fraud. And everyone knows it. Durdy durdy durdy.
ReplyDeleteVoter fraud is some kind of evil mythical beast. For all practical purposes it rarely occurs and there is no demonstrable evidence of it influencing recent elections. The hyperconcern about it has led to solutions in search of a fabricated problem to provide a pretense of a rationale to hold down turnout of some segments of the legitimate voting population. The focus on it takes focus away from dealing with the logistical problems that likely result from human error, not bad intent. I am uncertain why Lafayette is a problem...one does not need a partisan passport to set foot on campus. There are plenty of Republicans that live on the Hill, it would seem convenient. It is convenient for students registered to vote at their school address, despite the unfortunate possibility that they might back liberal candidates. T here is no "right thinking" litmus test to vote. At least not yet.
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