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Wednesday, September 25, 2024

The Real Bellwether County (Hint: It's Not NorCo)

Since 2016, national pundits have focused on Northampton County as a bellwether in Presidential races. But according to Governing, the real crystal ball can be found in Clallam County in the state of Washington. It has voted for the winner in every Presidential contest since 1980. Over the past 100 years, the losing candidate has carried the county just twice. So if you want to know who is winning, as elections boards throughout the country spend days to tabulate the results, check Clallam County aftyer their polls close on election day. 

19 comments:

  1. There’s more than one bellwether county.

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  2. Somewhat off topic, but I requested my mail-in-ballot over a month ago. I believe early voting just started this week. Why don’t I have my MIB already?

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  3. 9:14, Last week, at a meeting of the County Council Election Integrity Committee, Voting Registrar Chris Commini said they would go out in early October. Military ballots were sent Saturday. If you applied for a MIB, you should have received an email indicating your ballot is received. I can't remember but think an email is also sent when the ballots go out. If you have questions, call (610) 829-6260 or e-mail elections@norcopa.gov

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    1. Early October? WTF? How hard is it to get them out as soon as people can vote? Then we’re going to hear stories about how overwhelmed they are as we get closer to Election Day. This is work that could be done NOW!

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    2. 6:03, The ballots have to be L&A tested on scanners, then printed then mailed. Ballots cannot be prepared until nomination challenges are determined.

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  4. Applying for a ballot takes fewer than three minutes. One must list a drivers license number or their SS number. If a non-citizen has either one of these, how are we preventing them from receiving a ballot? There's a question about how long one has lived at their address. The most honest among us can fail to answer this accurately. Are these applications vetted to prevent non-citizens from receiving ballots? Thanks.

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    1. BernieOHare to commenter. Check out the link below. Noncitizen voting is illegal in Pa, and voter registration checks when someone registers to vote. This concern is really more about politics and nativism than policy or reality. https://www.commoncause.org/pennsylvania/articles/noncitizen-voting-is-already-illegal-in-pennsylvania/

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    2. The speed limit is 25 on my street Bernie. They go by going 50.

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  5. Adequate control of who gets a ballot, mail-in voting, and early voting all have a long way to go. First of all, none of us can speak with authority how other states handle these matters as provisions vary greatly from state to state.

    It is true, in certain cases, an illegal voter CAN receive a ballot simply by placing a check mark in the box that asks “Are you a citizen.” No supporting documentation required.

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  6. Running a red light is still illegal in Pennsylvania, too. So why does it still happen all over this state? Makes no sense.

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  7. Surmising from the pompous elected officials and backwoods hicks who make up much of county, Northampton County likes to pretend they are more important than they are. Clallam County eats your lunch, NOR-co!

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  8. Bernie you left-wing radical democrats are trash and should be shipped to Russia.

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    1. Too harsh. But, it is obvious discussion in complete examination of voting irregularities is not encouraged.


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    2. And you right wing tea party/maga republicans can go to hell. Just ask Charlie Dent

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  9. When Trump removes the illegal migrants, and all are criminals they broke the law in coming here he should also remove the left wing Marxist and the fake media too.

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  10. Citing Common Cause for a balanced perspective is like citing The Federalist for a balanced perspective. You used to be sharper than this. Are you slipping, or just getting lazy? Age is an unrelenting enemy.

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    1. 1:58, Common Cause is a nonpartisan government reform nonprofit that incidentally was founded by an R. You might view some of its positions as "liberal," while others are conservative. For example, it helps voters secure IDs that Rs like you want presented at every election. It advocated for a vpter-verified paper trail on voting machines, which I believe is supported by both parties. It challenges gerrymandering, and that includes Democratic states. It was critical of possible conflicts of interest between Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation in the 2016 presidential. So yes, it is a good and highly credible source. It is certainly more credible than an anonymous commenter who does not know what she's talking about.

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  11. Oh no, they are destroying another Mcclure talking point and PR speech.

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  12. In my opinion, across the nation ballots are given out too frequently to anyone who wants one. This creates an overwhelming problem for our current system to adequately handle using all the necessary controls we THINK are in place.

    The likelihood of fraudulent ballots being counted has been increased as a result of volume and, in some areas, dirty voter roll books used in validation.

    2024 election results will not only be delayed, but the results announced will be heavily challenged no matter which political party candidates are announced as winners. This is going to be a very messy year. Protests and violence galore.

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