For the third time, the US House Committee investigating the January 6 insurrection at the US Capitol conducted its final hearing yesterday. Since the Committee will exoire at year's end, I doubt there will be any more final hearings. The full report will be released Wednesday, and a 154-page executive "summary" of the committee's findings has been released. It'ss o long that CBS news has published a summary of the summary. It has also made criminal referrals against Trump and two lawyers who assisted him.
Trump should soon be able to sell NFTs of himself in prison garb.
Trump's chances of going to jail are about equal to you winning a Pulitzer for this blog....
ReplyDeleteThat entire Committee was a sham. Everyone knew the final conclusion would hold Trump responsible. The members of that Committee were all vile, vindictive, Trump haters from the start. They dragged this out as long as they could wasting time and our tax dollars.
ReplyDeleteI watched that entire episode live as it went down and studied extensively for months after. There is NO legal basis to hold Trump personally responsible. But, this fact never really mattered.
They could have saved the money and the time and released this conclusion within a week, Is anyone surprised that this is its conclusion. Trump did it, It was all his fault. Just his existence has so disrupted the entrenched bureaucracy that this was all necessary to keep him from being a candidate.
ReplyDeleteTrump may be so damaged that he cannot ever win again, but then who knows, what abuses and corruption will be revealed before the next election.
Every one of Trumps policies has been reversed and now the country is disintegrating from within. Maybe that is just the ultimate destiny of a once great nation.
Are we as a nation better off today, than we were in Jan. 2021?
Bernie you prove everyday what a fool you are Trump will never go to jail.
ReplyDeleteI think Nixon not being held accountable fostered this act against the United States. Now we have this character that assigns nicknames and ridiculous commentary to the people that are going to determine his fate. If I were in one of those positions I would adopt the position, he who laughs last, laughs best. The man is a fool, and should be treated as such
ReplyDeleteIt amazes me to this day that Trump still appeals to the lowest common denominator of uneducated, worthless, gullible, losers.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately his supporters have their minds made up and whatever work this committee did was going to fall upon deaf ears.
MAGA is a cult! tRump is a life long criminal and his time to be held accountable is finally approaching. @6:21 - you are a fool!
ReplyDelete"Trump's chances of going to jail are about equal to you winning a Pulitzer for this blog...."
ReplyDeleteI think the chances are a bit higher, and I'm actually going for a Nobel. Without question, there's sufficient evidence to indict. But the government has to prove insurrection beyond a reasonable doubt. He is going to argue, and already has, that he always intended that everyone act peacefully. Under the Brandenburg standard, the government must prove that his speech was intended to incite immediate violence. It is otherwise protected.
The hearings have produced an abundance of evidence from which a jury could conclude his conduct was intended to incite an insurrection. There is evidence he knew the mob was armed. He intended to be there with them. He continued to fan the flames against Pence after the capitol had been breached. In his speech, he made a number of inflammatory statements. He also said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard today." This creates some doubt in my mind as to whether he intended to engage in insurrection.
The committee is not a court. As anti-Trump as I am, I would certainly want to give Trump an opportunity to defend himself before reaching the conclusion he is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I do think charges are warranted. But the government has a very high burden.
Incidentally, I am declining to publish some of the MAGA comments submitted. I will publish comments that defend Trump against this referral. But claims that this is a show trial or kangaroo court are actually incorrect. It is not a trial. Moreover, there were two Rs on the committee and there could have been more.
Trump needs to be held accountable. He is vile, not the January 6th select committee. However, the people who have opposed Trump most fiercely, both the Resistance liberals and the Never Trump Republicans, will probably find the ending deeply unsatisfying.
ReplyDeleteThere will be no perp walk where Trump exits Mar-a-Lago in handcuffs. There will be no extraordinary revelations of Putinist treason, besides the treason that's already been reported. They'll be no forcing the Trumps into a Middle Eastern exile. And, there will be no collective denunciation driving him, in shame, from the public square. Trump has no shame, nor does to he current Republican party. Nor will there be a dramatic repudiation of the Trumpist style and grossly indulgent lifestyle.
While Democrats hope that Merrick Garland develops a backbone and indicts Trump for stealing (and then lying about) classified documents, nothing else will happen to this stain on American democracy. Trump will continue to grift, falsely claim that the election was stolen, and continue hawk his pathetic, washed-up "brand".
Then, DeSantis most likely defeats Trump in the primary, and promises to fight Trump’s battles with more effectiveness and guile and America will be suckered again.
The committee’s tail chasing results in a circus. Brandenburg is the litmus test - predetermined mindset wouldn’t function well with in a grand jury , and this committee has no power in the end . So there will be nothing this time next year . Trump is out anyway with most Republicans for a rebid for the White House ,it’s over.
ReplyDeleteI'm smelling a lot of MAGA fear here.
ReplyDeletepeterjcochran, you're just mouthing GOP talking points. The difference between the Brandenburg case and Jan. 6 is that the latter wasn't just general advocacy of a rebellion; rather, they actually went forward with the conspiracy. (There are pictures!) And Trump was the leader.
ReplyDeleteGood riddance to bad rubbish and all that.
Didn't he Tweet that everybody should remain peaceful? I have a Twitter account and saw those tweets. Is the standard that he tweeted his peaceful admonishments too late? I'm not sure what incitement can be found in tweets asking for peaceful protest. He's an ass. But he tweeted what he tweeted. Perhaps I've lost the timeline amongst the noise.
ReplyDeleteAn actual, formal indictment, followed by a legitimate courtroom trial, will lead to an entirely new list of people to testify. New evidence presented unfiltered, without censorship, and an aggressive legal defense. All that will NOT be attractive to some of our elected officials and Department Chiefs, particularly our DOJ. There is so much more to discover here. Our daily news media was very careful with what they covered and who they interviewed prior to this committee’s conclusions.
ReplyDeleteBut, who knows? The elite political class in today’s America just might roll the dice, regardless. Trillions of dollars and reputations are at stake.
The committee had no real republicans they are on their way out and they should be. the committee was a bunch of democratic losers, and they will lose again because Trump will never go to jail. Bernie you to are a loser saying Trump will go to jail.
ReplyDeleteHe violated the Constitution for his own self interests. Time and time again he demonstrates he is a danger to Democracy and the Country.
ReplyDeleteTrump's own supporters testified under oath against him. Country First.
ReplyDeletetrump, mob boss cult leader and grifter extraordinaire, set up a company to produce his "trading cards" (not actual NFTs which are unique and have value, trump's are actually illegally produced using unauthorized images but that's another grift for another day)so what trump is selling as NFT/trading cards are being sold through a company to which he had his body man, Nick Luna, appointed to lead. All to try to insulate him from potential testimony from Luna from the day of the insurrection. He has the potential to be even more of a blockbuster witness than Cassidy Hutchinson is/was.
ReplyDeleteIf there is an indictment/legitimate trial, I’ll be most interested in the sworn testimony of Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, FBI Director Wray, Attorney General Garland, the Capital Police Chief, Ray Epps, Liz Cheney, the head of the National Guard, the Capital Chief of Security, the officer who shot Ashli Babbitt, several Secret Service officers, persons involved in the so-called nearby pipe bombing incident. Throw in some actual, unedited live shot video from outside and inside the building, particularly the Capital Security opening the massive, magnetic front doors from inside and waving persons to come inside.
ReplyDeleteLots yet to reveal. Let’s get it started!
Trump did make two tweets asking for calm and for peaceful protest. We now know per Elon Musk, that those tweets were muffled by Twitter before Trump was banned from the platform for specious reasons. The committee didn't see these Tweets because they were never offered because there was no interest in any evidence that went against a predetermined narrative. That made a terrible event (Jan 6) a lot worse. It's rarely the crime. It's usually the cover up. Why was exculpatory evidence covered up? Even the new owner of Twitter wants to know. He described his company as a crime scene. That may be hyperbole. But the truth and transparency were thrown out the window on this.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you have a link to provide for your statement.
Delete"Didn't he Tweet that everybody should remain peaceful? I have a Twitter account and saw those tweets. Is the standard that he tweeted his peaceful admonishments too late? I'm not sure what incitement can be found in tweets asking for peaceful protest. He's an ass. But he tweeted what he tweeted. Perhaps I've lost the timeline amongst the noise."
ReplyDeleteMaking a statement about being peaceful IS exculpatory, I agree, but only so far as it goes. The evidence also is that he plotted since BEFORE the election to refuse to accept a loss, sent thousands of armed rioters to the Capitol after also telling them to "fight like hell", and then watched on TV for hours while he did nothing to help. That's all for the jury, too.
6:21 - Make sure you put that report in a clear plastic binder before you turn it in. I'll keep an eye out for your expert commentary on Fox later tonight.
ReplyDeleteMAGA folks have gone way too far out on that limb to admit the mistake. I hope the Republican party I joined, saws off the dead wood and moves on. You look like a bunch of assholes.
I’m just here wasting time until I get the anonymous call from Steve Lynch, hoping that I am one of the strong men to be called upon to do what is necessary to get done, but I won’t know what that is, because it’s mysterious in nature, but I should know it’s important because Steve Lynch doesn’t call a lot of people apparently, especially because he doesn’t talk to me regularly, but he has demanded that I pick up…
ReplyDeleteUhuru?…
Brother Steve sure does rent a lot of space in your head, why don’t you book a private sesh and start on the long road towards a respectable musculature surely what you’ve got now is something that would not pass muster at any kind of manly gathering. #MTG probably could put you in a Boston crab with the greatest of ease punks like you are a dime/dozen spaghetti arms no tan just a disgrace work on your game then step to the god bod squad
DeleteAt 12:43:42, Trump tweet "Get smart Republicans, FIGHT"
ReplyDeleteAt14:44, a Capitol officer fatally wonds a rioter as they tried to breach the House Chamber.
Trumps tweets calling for rioters to go home were at 14:58:38 and 15:13:26 EST, almost 3 hours after the chaos started. The damage was done. Trump tweeted 21 time before that, not once calling peace. Infact, some of his tweet encouraged the mob to fight
Anon 1212 is trying to revise history. His tweets were not suppressed and infact served as evidence.
What lies will tRumps tax return show?
ReplyDeleteHe was never being audited. For one.
DeleteIt shouldn’t matter if you’re a Republican or Democrat, us Americans need to make sure an insurrection never takes place in America ever again. For instance, look at what the Republicans did to President Bill Clinton, and he didn’t do half of the shit Trump did and got away with currently at this time. We need to make an example of this for Democracy.
ReplyDelete@ 3:25 PM - he's just arranging a little 'surprise' for his wife for Christmas. Steroids must finally be affecting his performance in the sack.
ReplyDeleteAnon 1036, House has obstacles to jump about PUBIC evidence! The Justice Department has evidence that it’s public . What do they and would the reasonable man or woman believe them ? Could open can of worms. I agree with poster 11:16 , better articulated statement than mine. Was a crime committed for attempting to get his VP to do something partisan? What’s you answer councilor ?
ReplyDeleteI'm an Independent/Libertarian who hates everything and everybody. I hope Trump and the last two POTUSs before him (and the current crook) eventually go to prison. I'd still like to know who Ray Epps is. He's in several videos at critical places and critical times encouraging a run on the Capitol. I don't think curiosity about Ray Epps is unfounded, given the gravity of that day's events.
ReplyDelete"Anon 1036, House has obstacles to jump about PUBIC evidence! The Justice Department has evidence that it’s public . What do they and would the reasonable man or woman believe them ? Could open can of worms. I agree with poster 11:16 , better articulated statement than mine. Was a crime committed for attempting to get his VP to do something partisan? What’s you answer councilor ?"
ReplyDeleteThere is no 10:35 but I'm 10:36 and addressed a post of yours, so I'll answer.
I hope--I even EXPECT--that a jury will get to hear the evidence and so we'll see what findings they make. I'm happy to see the truth come out, and whatever it may be. I believe that'll be right up DJT's heinie. As I say--hopefully, we'll see.
As to your last sentence, you have to look at the entirety of Trump's actions; that's not all that he did. He bullied Pence to act on his behalf in an unconstitutional (NOT just partisan) fashion and then, when he wouldn't, publicly badmouthed him to a group that had erected a gallows at the Capitol and was chanting "Hang Mike Pence." That certainly is consistent with his many other seditious and actions.
Correction Justice Dept had stuff that was NOT PUBLIC! May mean nothing because no leaks were sent to press. Independent/Libertarians are the mid section of America,I think that’s what I am too. I just May re register as one and get on Easton City Mayoral race to change the numbers - My platform will include a happy hour at city hall on Friday after work with a lottery from paid tax payers . What do you think? The idea would be to Build. A network of taxpayers to easily generate thought processes to keep us afloat. Mayor Panto is a wonderful cheerleader and Peter Milan a great thinker, and responsible person . This would give voters a stand-off. Nobody ever says their opponents are wonderful people, I might start. I’m tired of Retirement.
ReplyDelete@2:10 you hate everything and everybody are you sure you’re not Bernie lol.
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