On Monday, more than 30 FBI agents descended upon former President Donald Trump's home with a search warrant (it's sealed) obtained from a federal magistrate. Trump himself has been at his Bedminster residence to escape the stifling Florida heat. This begs the question why 30 agents were needed. It certainly is troubling. I don't like Trump, not one little bit. But if they can indulge in this type of overkill for a former President, imagine what they can do to you or me. According to WashPo, agents were looking for Presidential records that Trump failed to provide the National Archives in defiance of the Presidential Records Act. If so, shame on him. But it's hardly a matter that requires a search warrant and 30 agents. If that's all there is, then the complaints I've heard from Republicans are warranted. But is that all there is?
An explanation is required. If this warrant was obtained just to grab Presidential records, even classified records, the FBI is off its rocker. No search warrant has ever been executed on a former President. But if records are being sought in connection with the January 6 attempted coup, the action taken might be justifiable.
I think we are owed that explanation. I believe there are two possibilities.
1. The FBI may have had information that Trump held on to sensitive classified documents, and there was a real concern that they could be leaked to a foreign adversary. If this is the case, I believe the action is appropriate.
2. The FBI is investigation the January 6 attempted coup, and obtained a search warrant for Presidential records as a pretext to look for evidence implicating Trump in the attempted overthrow of Congress. If such evidence is seen, it can be seized under the plain view doctrine. If this is the case, I think the FBI is playing games and is acting in bad faith.
Whatever the reason, I do think we are owed an explanation.
Updated 10:40: LVCI has a picture of the first items seized in the raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago home.
My read on this is, several weeks ago it was in the news that about 15 boxes of material was in Trump's possession that were believed to contain materials that belonged in the National Archives. I remember these reports. Then we heard in the last few weeks that Trump's lawyers have been in discussion with the DOJ.
ReplyDeleteI believe this is a case of those 15 boxes (still reported to be 15) were not turned over. So to me, this raid makes sense. The Archives wants their materials, has not received them and they aren't waiting anymore for compliance. End of story.
1984 tactics. Pure political harassment. Obama appointed DC judge signs the warrant. 30 FBI Stormtroopers raid a private residence on a fishing expedition. Dems will do anything to destroy Trump. They failed for 4 years with bogus impeachment trials. Now it's January 6. Or some ridiculous records act charge. The FBI has become the Dems lap dogs. J. Edgar Hoover would be proud.
ReplyDeleteOn the following dates; 8/3/16. 9/7/26. 10/15/16. 10/20/16. 10/21/16. 10/25/16 10/30/16
ReplyDeleteDonald Trump said
"Anyone being investigated by the FBI is not qualified to be president of the United States "
Do you really think DOJ would mess this up?
BTW Congressman Perry from the Harrisburg district had his phone confiscated by 3 FBI agents yesterday.
Just like the Russian lie, the Ukraine lie, impeachment one, impeachment two, and many other lies. The democrats, the swamp, the rhinos, hate Trump because he is exposing their corrupt ways and all the ways they hurt the American people. This time they went too far and the hopefully enough people see this and vote these Evil people out.
ReplyDeleteAn outrage to President Trump. If This is an attempted coup it is unamerican and should strike fear in the hearts of everyone. What is happening to our country? The support for President Trump is through the roof.
ReplyDeleteThe FBI and other agencies have been politicized for years, they are now becoming arrogant and unrestrained in their ability to use the power of the federal government in an attempt to limit the former president from running again for elected office. That choice should be left to the citizens, not the political Gestapo.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I’m concerned, that raid on the home of a political opponent is an outrageous and disgusting act that should concern ALL citizens. This was the action of a police state tyranny.
ReplyDeleteThe people who ordered this raid MUST be identified and punished. This is a rogue government action that took careful planning over several days and done at the orders of some high officials of the current administration. We do not need another 6 month long investigation that leads nowhere. The chain of command here is not so deep it can’t be revealed quickly. Identify who ordered this and take REAL punitive action. Not just more sternly worded letters.
These are the new rules of political engagement. The Bidens should start burning all their evidence immediately, because mom's compound in Wilmington will certainly be raided after Joe's presidency. This is how third world countries operate. We've let the third world waltz into this country unmolested for two decades. That they control a political party and running a justice system like a banana republic should surprise nobody. This is the new Democratic Party. But Republicans always do payback better. And there's the problem with this new devolution.
ReplyDeleteNews outlets have been reporting that their sources are saying the search was related to the Pres Records Act, but why wouldn't a search warrant and 30 agents be required? Mar-a-Lago isn't a small home, or an apartment. A Judge was presented with sufficient evidence that a search warrant was necessary.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't the first time that tens of agents were used in moving on a search warrant conducted on a private citizen.
Garland is no fool. He wouldn't have moved on seeking a search warrant unless there are documents so sensitive that they can't be risked being retained in the possession of Trump.
On the bright side, maybe they find Trump's heath care plan he told everyone he had, when he was still President.
"But if they can indulge in this type of overkill for a former President, imagine what they can do to you or me."
ReplyDeletebeen there, done that, thank you very much.
They have there AI equipment turn our dumb phones gps tracker on when I turn it off daily? I am an American citizen and of no threat whatsoever to American sovereignty. I have never signed on to this with my carrier or the government?
ReplyDeleteThey should be watching the people crossing the border that the USA have given prepaid phone too! Most are good people fleeing bad countries while they are also letting terrorist pass through too.
The "if it can happen to Trump, it can happen to you and I" line is the wrong perspective in a constitutional republic. In "a government of laws, and not of men," as John Adams referred to us, if it can happen to us, it should be able to happen to Trump. Our leaders are not teflon, and no one should be above the law. In the end, its an executed warrant that no doubt still did get extra scrutiny because of who the subject was. However, not pursuing because of fear of the subject's "followers" would be the criminal equivalent of a heckler's veto. As to the number of agents, it's not like they were searching our humble dwellings and only needed a few agents.
ReplyDeleteAnytime trump wishes to list what was taken he can.
ReplyDeleteHe can list what the FBI was searching for and deny or acknowledge having such items.
Remember now that Hillary was to be locked up forever for less.
As to trumpie whining about the search--welcome to the little people group.
At least is was not a "no knock" search that killed people--well little minority people so guess trumpie being white will at least keep him from getting shot.
The laughable part is the right wing wants to defund the FBI now.
The party of personal responsibility and law and order is crying when they might have to obey it.
old saying ffff around and find out.
trumpie just did.
I get that every time a Republican pops up as a viable POTUS candidate that he'll be targeted by the current administration. This started with Obama investigating a POTUS campaign over his party's nominee's now discredited Russia hoax. She had national security stuff on a home-baked server that Guccifer hacked five or six times to demonstrate how easy it was. She still hasn't been investigated. That's home team advantage. But that's where the weaponization of the DOJ began at the POTUS candidate level. Trump is the latest because he might actually win the election if held today. He won't be the last. That's why DeSantis is R's safest bet to avoid this new, new. Rs don't have friendlies in the DOJ and it will take them a while to concoct their revenge - which will certainly come and will be harsh. Ds never complain about Citizens United after figuring out how to kill Rs with it. That's how politics work in our post-democratic republic. It's unseemly. But it's who we are and we've never been any better than this.
ReplyDeleteTrump is not above the law.
ReplyDeleteMastriano answered the same number of questions for the J6 committee as he did for the press. ZERO. He wants to be chief conspirator. No thanks.
Remember when the Constitution and Law & Order mattered? Now theiy are an inconvenience to political aspirations to maga republicans.
So the Judge that signed off on the warrant previously represented associates of Jeffrey Epstein, the "Judge" set up a defense firm after he resigned as a prosecutor for southern Florida.
ReplyDelete"Reinhart assumed his role as Kellen and Marcinkova’s attorney once he set up a criminal defense firm after resigning from his post as a senior prosecutor in the Southern District of Florida as it was negotiating a non-prosecution agreement for Epstein. Reinhart would officially begin his legal representation of Epstein’s accomplices within days of leaving his position as a senior prosecutor within the district."
Im no fan of Trump - I dont get the cult of personality. These last 6 years has been a shit show with a press corps in the bag for the left and zero culpability for those on the left that have or may have already broken the law.
How many times did Bill fly on Epstein's jet?
Mr. Carlin said it best "Its a big club and you aint in it!"
What are they going to do with those 87,000 IRS agents with 5,000 guns and 5,000,000 rounds of ammo?
New York Post has reported the FBI agents were in the Trump home for more than 6 hours. They also refused to allow Trump attorneys inside to observe the operation. Worst of all, Melania’s personal clothing in a bedroom closet was picked through, including her undergarments.
ReplyDeleteAt this point, who can deny the possibility of planting evidence and listening devices throughout the home?
This is an historic abuse of power by the DOJ and FBI, I think. Big change needed in both.
7:31: You're Qrazy! Too much far right media. Turn off and go to your safe place.
DeleteNo CNN reported pretty much the same thing.
DeleteAnother interesting aspect of this is the WH claim that Joe Biden didn’t know anything about the raid.
ReplyDeleteI’m reminded of Mark Russell’s joke about Ronald Reagan during Iran/Contra:
“It’s not just ‘what did he know and when did he know it?’ It’s not even 'what didn’t he know and why didn’t he know it.’ Maybe the real question is ‘what does he know and does he know that he knows it?’”
Of course, typical PBS viewers probably wouldn’t find that funny these days.
IF and its a BIG IF, this is politically motivated fishing trip, then yes it is a horrible development in this country, but a couple of points...
ReplyDeleteThe FBI Director and the Judge granting the warrant were Trump appointees so there is a likelihood of fire to go along with a lot of smoke here.
Merrick Garland and DOJ have been extremely tight lipped on J6/Trump investigation to the point of a lot of left wing loonies declaring conspiracy theories of their own, but the DOJ silence could simply be them doing their jobs and not tipping off who/what is being investigated. I believe Garland has been overly carefully to recognize the polarization in this country and has set high bars in his investigation.
While the FBI legally cannot make the warrant public, I believe Trump has his own copy of the warrant, and can release it if he wanted.
I do think the "if they can do it to him, they can do it to us" line of reasoning is mildly overcooked in terms of a talking point/threat/scare tactic. How about just keep your nose clean, stay out of shady areas and be a good person then maybe you won't have your home raided by FBI agents?
It is time to dump Trump. He has to much baggage and his selection for candidate for president will only split the gop and play into the dems hands.
ReplyDeleteWhatever little respect I still held for the FBI has vanished.
The FBI is an extension of the democratic party wait till they get the IRS going.
ReplyDeleteThe liar-in-chief has already stoked his cult by saying they planted evidence and no lawyers of his were present. He's a clear and present danger to all of us!
ReplyDeleteYep. No witnesses. No lawyers. J6 no defense.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait for joe and hunter to be put through the wringer. Except we/they already see the evidence. His team already has been planning a defense.
hilary, obama..... let's see whats behind their walls.
I agree completely with those who say no one,not even Trump, is above the law. But I am also well aware that the FBI can and has abused its authority on multiple occasions. Why 30 agents for documents? Could not this have been handled in a less intrusive manner? Trump had already turned over 15 boxes of records. He was cooperating. Now if something came up that made agents fear that he was in possession of documents that could be leaked (or stolen) by China or Russia, I get it. But we deserve to know this. The person who said that warrants remain under seal is incorrect. The DOJ could easily get an order unsealing the warrant and supporting affidavit. It is true Trump could release the warrant, but he does nbot have the supporting affidavit.
ReplyDeleteThose who claim this is political or comes from the Democrats have offered no evidence to back up their accusations. Only conspiracy theories. This does concern me, however, as a possible abuse of federal authority. It happens. This has happened to ordinary people at times. Once you are in their sites, you are toast. This did happen to a good friend of mine.
Trump has been insulting the DOJ and FBI for several years now. It's obvious to me they have it in for him by now, and I can't blame them. But they are supposed to stay above all of that.
If this is a pretext search used to justify a six-hour fishing expedition, they should be sued. If they were looking through Melania's personal clothing, which I don't believe, they should be sued.
By the way, you don't announce a search warrant. You have no obligation to allow a lawyer to be present. If there is concern that Trump was in possession of documents that could fall into the wrong hands, I support this action. Absent that, it is overkill and an abuse of federal authority. No one is above the law. That includes Trump. But it also includes the FBI.
I noticed the FBI association has a spokesperson named Brian O'Hare. He obviously comes from the more aristocratic part of our clan. My family comes from the part that was kicked out Ireland for making bad whiskey.
Taiwan Nancy has the nerve to repeat the Dems favorite phrase "no one is above the law." All while her husband is dodging a DUI charge and her family has a history of insider trading. She is the Queen of Hypocrisy.
ReplyDeleteLot's of speculation and right wing media talking points. The truth will come out. If I may do a bit of speculating myself, I don't believe our former president will be without fault.
ReplyDeleteCompare the disparity in handling by the FBI and DOJ with the Hillary Clinton private servers and Trumps raid.
ReplyDeleteBe objective in your assessment. And come to an impartial conclusion.
Some are using the term 'Gestapo' to the vexation of others who counter with the atrocities the Gestapo committed. Fair enough. This isn't the Gestapo. But, declaring war on your political enemies was indeed a Gestapo tactic.
ReplyDeleteThe Gestapo was formed as a state police force, not a "killing people without trial" force. That came a few years later. There was an act passed that allowed the Gestapo to operate without oversight from any judicial branch. The ruthlessness and crimes against humanity came after that.
We aren't at the "killing people without trial" part yet but we seem to be at the "no judicial oversight" part. "No person is above the law" is code for we can infringe upon your rights anytime we want.
I'm unwilling to conclude that the feds had any illicit motive, but I am concerned it was a pretext search. I want an explanation and refuse to jump to any conclusions or join in any conspiracy theories.
ReplyDeleteTrump should be treated like anyone else. The DOJ does not hold press conferences about its investigations--Comey's transgressions being a wholly inappropriate exception.
ReplyDeleteThat Trump World is claiming, without evidence, that the FBI planted evidence tells me that the FBI has seized incriminating evidence. If so, I hope the DOJ prosecutes.
Golly, if only Trump had appointed the FBI director!
ReplyDeleteOops...
This a result of left-wing radicals in power. I hope the people vote these people out in November. if not, God help us.
ReplyDeleteWhat has Trump ever done to show that he deserves the benefit of any doubt?
ReplyDeleteIt was a judge who approved the warrant and any charges will be in open court. If the was probable cause, then what's the beef?
Let's let the system work as it's supposed to.
Given that a search warrant executed against a former President of the US is wholly unprecedented, we need to know why this happened. There are five Congressional Committees with oversight powers. The feds can do this the easy way or the hard way. If it is a pretext search, it is entirely improper. If there was a legitimate concern that sensitive material would fall into the wrong hands, it is justified. Why 30 agents? Why Melania's wardrobe? This has a foul odor about it.
ReplyDeleteBernie,
ReplyDeleteTrump received a copy of the search warrant Which I can not find any release thereof. I do not believe the FBI can release it nor in this situation do they want any leaks of it. Search warrants can be a matter of public record however if there is sensitive information in them then they can be sealed for a period of time. If Trump truly finds it heinous then he should release a copy of the search warrant. It would answer so many questions.
Him not releasing the search warrant just makes me wonder if this is another blow hard moment for him like complaining about so many things and not showing any evidence of what he talks about or action on what he said he would do.
12:23 if this were J Edgar he would have had trump and many of his minions accidentally disappear. He did not like wasting time with the riff raff unless he could net the head of the snake.
ReplyDeleteTo all the shitheads who are defending Trump. IF he is guilty are you going to accept it and fall on your sword? That is part of the problem very few are willing to accept their cultist leader for what he is. This is in now way condoning other but quit being freaking hypocrites and let it play out or be willing to end yourself when your hero falls.
ReplyDeleteTO QUOTE A MOVIE : YOU CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH AND PRBABLY DO NOT REALLY WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND THAT GOES FOR BOTH SIDES. To do something like the FBI just did is a far scarier thing then I think any realize.
ReplyDeleteWow Bernie, you knew this would bring the crazies out. As you know the warrant involved was sealed, and the FBI doesn’t comment on cases. Trump could publish the warrant and let us all know why the FBI was there, but that would stop all the criticism and speculation by the forever Trumpers and he would loose the spot light. He can get a few days of media out of this so he’s going to keep it going. Obviously, he removed records from the Office of the President. He didn’t respect the office when he occupied it, so why should he respect the laws of the Federal Archives? Or was he planning the collection of the Trump Presidential Library? LOL
ReplyDeleteWhy Melania's wardrobe? This has a foul odor about it.
ReplyDeleteDouble entendre, not nice Bernie
All of you have been preaching conspiracy theory for years now. Maybe there is a bigger one then we al know and it goes through Trump. He does have a habit of blaming others for the same things he does and is doing.
ReplyDeleteLet us also consider if Mitch McConnell wouldn't have blocked Merrick Garland's appointment to the Supreme court Trump wouldn't being dealing with him as Attorney General. I should think Trump would have regrets with how things turned out. Yeah Trump got 3 on the court, but he could have never imagined what a hollow victory it was. Not saying this is Garland's revenge, but it is another aspect to think about, no?
ReplyDeleteTrump cooperating??? It's August 2022! Nothing should have been in MAR. Who knows what he has taken elsewhere? Trust is earned by fair play, mutual respect. This guy is forever a con man disregarding norms, protocol, laws and decency. Looking out for himself. He broked every standard of behavior as president. He deserves no consideration. He gave up that right when he denied the country a peaceful transition. He who lives by the sword...
ReplyDeleteWhy Malania's wardrobe, because Donald Trump would have dressed like a woman on the Titanic.
ReplyDeleteAll of us are doing nothing more then speculating and showing how ignorant we can actually be. We know not the reason for the search (And it was not a raid). We know nothing other then a search warrant was granted. We think we know who approved it but we do not know for sure. We are already condemning it when it might be fully justified or absolutely a farse. Some of us are defending a confirmed liar, thief, tax evader, con artist and number of other things. Other are condemning the same person deeply and completely. Granted the picture does not look good but we do not know any6 real facts yet.
ReplyDeleteSome are crying witch hunt but yet at the same time demanding a witch hunt of those who executed the warrant. And of those who so many are certain are involved but have no knowledge of whatso ever.
Yes it is a travesty that the world and this country has gotten to this point but we need to let let it play out.
I am SO sick of the Trump Sideshow. If this is a valid search, then fine, but I think the constant attention on this jerk only galvanizes his nutty following who fly their flags and yell FJB. Unless what he did was truly egregious, I would love for the man and his family to be ignored so that they can no longer claim victimization and harassment. We saw this when the Rs when after the Clintons and now it is the Ds turn with Trump.
ReplyDeleteThe FBI destroyed Trump's personal library. Both books are beyond repair... and he hadn't even begun coloring one of them yet. Sad.
ReplyDeleteOh please, Bernie. Exactly what would establish "pretext" for you? Do you, say, expect an FBI agent to admit that they didn't really care about the documents that were improperly taken from the White House by Trump but just wanted an excuse to find stuff on other matters, such as J6? And probable cause to search for documents is probable cause to search for documents, right? (And, as you say, "plain view.")
ReplyDeleteMaybe Trump had one box labeled "Documents that I took from the White House in violation of law" and another that says "Stuff that I didn't take from the White House in violation of law but that incriminates me with respect to the Capitol coup attempt." How about a third box labeled "Incriminating stuff I burned long before the FBI got here and so it's empty"?
"Once you are in their sites, you are toast. This did happen to a good friend of mine."
ReplyDeleteIt's nice to be remembered...
Just wait until Trump realizes there's money to be made by selling a certain person's soiled undies.
ReplyDeleteTrump is the only person who could put us on the right track again-the democrats, left wing radicals and the deep state hate Trump because he exposes all their lies and fraud and nonsense. They hate him so much they will do anything to stop him-they tried so many ways and failed. I hope the American people realize this and do not drink the left-wing democrats Kool aid.
ReplyDelete@5:44AM "The Bidens should start burning all their evidence immediately, because mom's compound in Wilmington will certainly be raided after Joe's presidency."
ReplyDeleteI love this cluelessly ironic and vindictive line of thinking... What exactly are we looking at prosecuting the Bidens over? Hunter leveraging his fathers political position for personal gain via a foreign actor attempting to influence American policy? GUILTY!!! Did Trump and anyone from his family do the same thing? Yes, yes they did.
The Clintons, Bushes, Obamas and Bidens have ALL suffered political attacks for various ethical and morally poor choices. What separates Trump & Co from them is the brazenness of the actions and demonstrable disrespect for the laws of this country.
Bernie - you keep mentioning the fact and seem to be quasi offended that the FBI used 30 agents. My guess is that because of the size of the property, securing search areas and the amount of time needed to conduct the search (I don't think a warrant allows for an open ended occupation of the property) that was simply the calculated manpower required to conduct the size and scope indicated in the warrant.
ReplyDeleteSending in a small handful of guys to conduct the search of a 63,000 square foot, 125 room mansion seems a little silly when you think about the logistics.
"Yeah Trump got 3 on the court, but he could have never imagined what a hollow victory it was. Not saying this is Garland's revenge, but it is another aspect to think about, no?"
ReplyDeleteNot even close. Abortion was overturned as a made-up constitutional right, and 2A has never been on firmer footing. I never liked Trump. But I liked the promises he made and kept. Now, goodbye Donny and thanks. We move on with a solid SCOTUS majority and have Harry Reid to thank, mostly. Remember what Rs did with the nuclear option when Reid handed them the button. Same thing is coming with a Biden investigation after his POTUS term. Revenge, indeed.
The FBI has cross-dressing in its DNA. I'm certain the FBI agents kept lots of Melania's frilly things and are currently knuckling out whiteys while sniffing their loot. This ain't Efrem Zimbalist Jr.'s FBI. It's the real FBI of J Edgar Hoover and his band of very merry men. Not that there's anything wrong with that.....
ReplyDeleteThe last several posts are by Trump haters who will ignore any complicity by their fascist Democrat masters in this matter. The truth will come out that this was a fishing expedition to dredge up as much dirt as possible on a former President, from the opposition party. This administration has weaponized its Justice Department. The raid was an outrageous act of desperation by the unhinged left who will bend or break any rules or laws of the land to put Trump in an orange jump suit.
ReplyDelete@4:16
ReplyDeleteWake up and smell the roses. Your man is going down for years of crime and you are still hoping that he become President again. Wow, what kool-aid do you drink. At least some dead head Republicans are coming to there senses and see the man for the con he is!
@7:31
ReplyDeleteThis is an historic abuse of power by the Trumpster, no other President ever committed so many crimes while in office. The dude need to be held accountable for his crimes in New York, Florida, and Washington DC. He is not Teflon Don he is Donald Trump Con man.
Trump says he won't release the warrant. I guess that's like taking the Fifth in his civil deposition yesterday.
ReplyDeleteNuf said.
Trump could be looking at jail time. When in office he changed a national security bill that involves wrongly moving classified material from a misdemeanor to a felony. Lock him up :)
ReplyDelete@7:11
ReplyDeleteThe additional IRS agents are coming for you. Remember pay your taxes.
Has anyone seen photos of some of the FBI agents, particularly the apparently female ones who are morbidly obese and wearing sneakers? WTF? There used to be rules preventing jumbotrons from stealing LEO paychecks. I thought donut kops were a thing of the past.
ReplyDeleteI see the judge who signed the warrant has been doxxed, had his address posted online, and is receiving threats. He's getting the Brett Kavanaugh treatment and that's cool, right?
ReplyDeleteTrump pleads the 5th in today's civil case
ReplyDeleteSaid only the mob takes the 5th in 2016
Trump increases penalties for mishandling official documents in 2016
I wonder if he stands there and yells
I've got a big mouth
Like Ralph Kramdon
The high visibility of such an unprecedented FBI takeover of a political opponent, whether justified or not, will rankle most Americans. In this case, the subject (Trump) is still extremely popular with voters. No doubt in my mind, this FBI action will actually HELP Trump if he chooses to run again. The present administration has done a very poor job and a return of Trump’s policies gets more appealing by the day.
ReplyDeleteHow many FBI agents does it take to screw in a light bulb?
ReplyDeleteAs many as it takes to get the light bulb to surrender.
Where have you gone, Mr. Hoover?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo, woo, woo
What's that you say, Mrs. Robinson?
J. Edgar has left and gone away
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
No Trump fan here but I now understand what his supporters are talking about. And they are less crazy to me today than they were a week ago.
ReplyDeleteI can’t in good conscience vote for a Democrat this year.
Any of them.
trump can avail himself of the legal system if he feels wronged by the FBI.
ReplyDeletetrump can deny he had items that the FBI searched for.
He has not done that.
Course he was busy pleading the fifth in NY.
trump once said ""So there are five people taking the Fifth Amendment, like you see on the mob, right? You see the mob takes the Fifth. If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?" Trump told the crowd at an Iowa rally in September 2016."
Hmmmm---i think he nailed that in Iowa.
As to agents going thru Melina's underwear seems trump can make a complaint and it will be investigated.
Until that happens it just sounds like chum for the maga folks to shout at each other.
trump is like Bannon--talk big and bad but have no spine to back up what they say.
"obtained a search warrant for Presidential records as a pretext to look for evidence implicating Trump in the attempted overthrow of Congress"....a pretext? Were you really a lawyer at one point?
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ReplyDelete"The FBI has cross-dressing in its DNA"
glad there is nothing wrong with that.
try
https://therooster.com/articles/daily-viral-never-forget-the-time-donald-trump-smooched-motorboated-rudy-guiliani-in-drag
"Together they sample a few perfumes, and in classic Donny Trump style, he gets a little too close for comfort. Shamelessly, the tycoon (who looks notably much younger in this video, than he does today) buries his face in Ms. Giuliani’s breasts, and motorboats them like he’s a grand prix powerboat champion."
Good for both of them.
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ReplyDelete"Why Melania's wardrobe? This has a foul odor about it."
then trump can take legal action.
I realize trump's legal team is busy but I am sure they could hammer an FBI agent into the ground for bad conduct.
Prove that and trump could claim he is pure as the driven snow.
Should be easy if the alleged claim has any merit
1) The current FBI director was appointed by Trump. 2) A federal judge had to sign off on the search warrant. 3) Trump has a copy of the search warrant. if he has nothing to hide then why doesn't he put it out in public so everybody can see what is in it? If I were Trump then I would start buying liquid soap in 50 gallon jugs because he is going to need it for where he is going down the road.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/06/10/crisis_at_the_national_archives_137241.html
ReplyDelete@3"54 you might be surprised what is under what you think is a large woman. I know I have been personally pleasantly surprised after seeing a woman cop out and about in her police garb including body armor and a number of other things. They shed that and many of are far better looking then pictures will show.'
ReplyDeleteBernie, I know you use comment moderation. So what is the point of allowing the bigoted, homophobic, and sexist comments through when they do not add any value? Is it just so your blog has a lot of comments and seems more popular?
ReplyDelete@4:41 not if The dots are connect between the classified documents he took and him giving them to Putin because he did not fully bring down the country while he was being such a failure as a president. And the Russian dossier is found to be full true and correct. And that he has been taking Russian Money the entire time he was in office. Then he is found to be corrupt, a Russian plant, and truly worked in coordination with many to rip apart the country.
ReplyDeleteThen he is found guilty of treason, corruption, spying, and a number of other things,
I know it sounds very far fetched but when you look at the picture is painted by even himself it is a possibility for sure.
"Bernie, I know you use comment moderation. So what is the point of allowing the bigoted, homophobic, and sexist comments through when they do not add any value? Is it just so your blog has a lot of comments and seems more popular?"
ReplyDeleteChris E, Comments that question my decisions about comments being published are themselves subject to deletion. I, and I alone, make those calls. But I'll respond.
First, I deleted a large number of comments far worse than those you see.
Second, there are times when I allow some of the more ridiculous comments to show readers that there really are some people who are off the hook. When I point out that some MAGAs are racist, homophobic and sexist, this proves it.
Third, I leaned towards allowing some of the venom because the MAGA crowd is very angry over this seemingly unnecessary raid (and yes, it was a raid). We all should know this.
Fourth, if I wanted lots of comments, this would not be a local blog. I primarily write about what goes on locally. If I wanted lots of comments, this blog's title would be different. My whole focus would be different.
Fifth, the best way to counter hate speech is by confronting it.
I have no desire to make this blog seem like anything more than what it is. It is not monetized and I don't care if I have 10 or 10,000 readers.
If anyone is crazy it is the left-wing radicals with their policies and how they govern--they want to control every aspect of the people lives. The latest bill is an example expandind the IRs.
ReplyDelete7:31 oh yes, "the NY POST has reported"....a well known rag is your source of info???
ReplyDelete"So what is the point of allowing the bigoted, homophobic, and sexist comments ..."
ReplyDeleteFirst, if you're conflating or confusing cross-dressing with homosexuality, that's incorrect and perhaps bigoted, and you should get enlightened. Second, and perhaps owing to the blogger's Irish roots, this blog has regularly been open to fart and dick jokes, within reason. I like that. Lighten up, Francis.
Ovem Lupo, indeed 30 agents for a property that size would not be unreasonable it seems. Mr. "I take the 5th" is doing what he does, not playing by the rule of law. All his guilt deniers have to do is look at the man's track record BEFORE he even became Prez. He's was so mistrusted in the financial world it was difficult for him to get loans from credible institutions. He had a reputation as a litigious sleaze bag with contractors. All you working class folks would have been shafted by him on the job and if you tried to sue, he would have strung it out in court so you would give in. THAT'S the man you admire so much. That's his MO.
ReplyDeletePennlive and Judicial Watch just reporting our FBI now issuing subpeonas to several Republican members of the Pennsylvania House and Senate. They are targeting those Republicans who raised questions about the validity of the 2020 elections. I don’t like the sound of this. How about you?
ReplyDeleteHey Bernie,
ReplyDeleteWhy don’t you start talking about Biden’s Big Wins!
He doing great things for our country and I am a hard working Republican. I can’t believe it.
"Ovem Lupo, indeed 30 agents for a property that size would not be unreasonable "
ReplyDeleteI completely disagree. The property is already secured by Secret Service. This was overkill.
@7:21 "Pennlive and Judicial Watch just reporting our FBI now issuing subpeonas to several Republican members of the Pennsylvania House and Senate. They are targeting those Republicans who raised questions about the validity of the 2020 elections. I don’t like the sound of this. How about you?"
ReplyDeleteThe sooner these clowns are burnt out of the GOP, the better our country will be. We just need fiscal conservatives who know how government works. Not mindless culture warriors who appeal to shrinking demographics and are generally unelectable. Dems will be in control for the next decade because of this.
@ 7:21am. I don't know if Trump supporters are getter dumber, crazier or just better at lying. They were not issued subpoenas because they "raised questions about the 2020 election". It's a criminal probe into Pennsylvania Republicans seeking alternative, fake electors to steal Biden's electorial majority and popular win, while trying to keep Trump in office, Despite his loss.
ReplyDeleteSome individuals receiving subpoenas were told they were not targets of an investigation, according to PennLive, but that they may have information of interest to the FBI. All of the sources had been briefed on the investigative moves in some way, but demanded anonymity in order to discuss them.
The information being requested centered around U.S. Rep. Scott Perry, R-Pa., and the effort to seek alternate electors as part of former President Donald Trump’s efforts to remain in office after the 2020 election, several sources said.
Perry’s cellphone was seized Tuesday as part of the Justice Department’s criminal investigation into the use of fake electors to try to overturn President Biden’s victory.
7:21: I love the sound of this, but I don't like the sound of you.
I have no problem with the subpoenas issued to state lawmakers. Seems well warranted and completely lawful.
ReplyDeleteThere will be payback at all levels. The coming Republican majorities aren't going to be the nice, RINO, never Trumper Republicans of the past. They're nasty, vindictive, and motivated. Investigations and hearings are certainly coming, as this seems to be the new battle tactic.
ReplyDelete9:21- I am not aware “fake electors” were ever actually used, are you? Is there even a roster naming who the selected persons were? If anything, that was just another “We need to form a committee” idea to be used, IF CALLED UPON. Is there is a crime in doing such? Please correct me.
ReplyDelete9:50am You understand how Google works, right?
DeleteHere's the list and they sent their bogus fake electors to the National Archives.
Also, your argument that they weren't used is ridiculous. If you "try" to commit a crime like armed robbery, but your victim fights back and escapes, you're still guilty of attempted armed robbery.
https://www.penncapital-star.com/campaigns-elections/updated-trumps-fake-electors-heres-the-full-list/
DeleteSure, Biden has done a great job and is one of cleanest politicians of all. We must keep voting for are left wing democrats.
ReplyDelete"I completely disagree. The property is already secured by Secret Service. This was overkill."
ReplyDeleteGiven the FACT they deleted for some reason the text messages from the 5th and 6th , not others, I think involving the USSS would be ill advised.
And in a new development it appears one of Trumps circle "ratted" him out about these documents.
Ratted being trumpworld jargon.
Bernie at 8:59 the secret service have no purpose in a search warrant. They cannot and should not participate. They are not law enforcement they are protection which is a completely separate entity. If they do they break line of custody and process.
ReplyDeleteYou have a bunch of friends in the police department. Why don't you ask them how many people they take when they execute a search warrant here locally. Then scale it accordingly.
@9:50 to correct your slow mind that you did not even bother to check before your spewed. So typical! Below is a link to the the list by state which they have documentation for and who should be arrested and put away for life for numerous illegalities. They were so stupid that the openly admitted and voluntarily said they did it in many cases. Personally I think all of them on the list should be excused however I will step that thought back and should have the full force of our country and its judicial system into removing them form our society.
ReplyDeleteAnd all the supporters who provided financing, other services, and actions knowing what they were doing should also be prosecuted. be There are some very familiar names especially in the Pennsylvania portion of the list The list will be in multiple posts.
https://www.azmirror.com/2022/06/29/updated-trumps-fake-electors-heres-the-full-list/
Pennsylvania had 20 who tried to help trump overthrow the government by manipulating an election
ReplyDeletePENNSYLVANIA (20)
Bill Bachenberg*: B
Lou Barletta:
Tom Carroll: C
Ted Christian: C
Chuck Coccodrilli:
Bernadette Comfort: C
Sam DeMarco III:
Marcela Diaz-Myers: .
Christie DiEsposti:
.Josephine Ferro:
Charlie Gerow:
Kevin Harley: H
Leah Hoopes:
Andre McCoy:
Pat Poprik: P
Andy Reilly:
Suk Smith: S
Calvin Tucker:
@9:54 Sounds to me like you would prefer the gulag. Those that were/are trying to overthrow our government no matter how poorly you think some of the people are will most certainly will implement gulags for those who do not toe the line. Having an opinionated voice like yourself would certainly have to change your habits as history shows the most adamant supporters at the transmission were often the first to be irradiated by the new regime. They were not needed anymore and often became quickly disenchanted and thereby were cast out. Only a select handful survive that first purge and you most certainly do not have enough power for any of them to consider you anymore then a small road bump.
ReplyDeleteMerrick Garland has stated he had no prior knowledge and has no information on a local operation. So naturally, he's going to address the raid at 2:30PM. I can't stand Trump. But it's a good thing this Garland assclown never got a SCOTUS shot. I believe he's dumber than Harriet Myers, whom Bush The Retarded tried to nominate.
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ReplyDeleteDEFUND the Police?!? How dare you!! DEFUND the FBI?!? Absolutely!!
ReplyDelete2:07 when you post bullshit and show you are a proven assclown please post the place where you heard it from or where you might have read it (Giving you the benefit of the doubt that you can read). Facebook, truth social and any number of other avenues are so failure can feel important and quote requotes of something that they might have heard someone who they thought might have said something.
ReplyDeleteTo help you understand a little better
Garland said he personally approved the search warrant
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/white-collar-and-criminal-law/garland-seeks-to-unseal-trump-warrant-says-he-approved-search
And incase you won't believe anything else here it is right from a source I am certain you hang on their every word.
DOJ asks court to unseal Mar-a-Lago raid warrant; AG Merrick Garland personally signed off on Trump search
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-asks-court-unseal-mar-a-lago-raid-warrant-ag-merrick-garland-personally-signed-off-trump-search
Pull your head out of your postierriere and wake up or just let someone rip it off because there is nothing going on it it anyhow.
You know I have been reading the stuff about the search and the attorneys are saying that they were not allowed in. Well let's see where else have we heard that. During the election process. During Trumps time of owning the Beauty pageants he was not told to go into changing and dressing rooms but he of course being famous and rich said he owned it and could go anywhere he wanted. These are but the first two that come to mind. I am certain others can add.
ReplyDeleteYou would think Trump and his team could actually come up with something original. But he keeps beating the same bad and broken drum.
2:49 do you know how many of you would be hunted into extinction if there were no police or FBI. Be careful of what you wish for there are a lot more people quietly sitting by not doing anything that would certainly step up if the rules came off and were reapplied. Be happy with the protection you are afforded because many like you and your cult would be permanently placed in ward somewhere which kept you from showing your own stupidity and allowing others to take justice upon you.
ReplyDeleteHey tough guy, it’s called sarcasm. Let me explain. When people cried ‘DEFUND the police!’ (Which I strongly oppose) the FRUMPETS said ‘absolutely not!’ But now the FRUMPETS are crying ‘DEFUND the FBI!’ (Which I also strongly oppose). Do you see the oxymoron here, moron?
DeleteOK - so using the same “guilt by association” logic being shown here, It would seem EVERYONE wearing ANTIFA, holding an ANTIFA sign, etc. seen at a downtown riot with buildings being torched should also be charged because they support the same method for change? Got it.
ReplyDeleteI have to laugh at these assholes who are saying not to call it a raid. The jackets the Agents wear when they serve warrants are literally called “raid jackets” LOL.
ReplyDeleteHere we sit. Safe was empty. Nothing leaked by The J Edgar bois. Looks like a dry hump at Merry Lago. If they'd found anything it would have leaked by now. Trump is a god after this. He's actually a deity. And here come's that Harry Reid treatment regarding the Biden gang. Biden's dotage is going to be one long deposition about his druggie Chinese agent kid. Pack extra diapers and Ritalin, Dr. Jill!
ReplyDeleteBWAHAHAHAHA. Egg on face……
Delete4:52 the difference you are missing is that Antifa is not grifting and being sent millions of dollars in their defense fund by absolute no brain losers. The cult goes out of its way to worship its hero over and over. And the brown head politicians because they have their head so far up his ars are no better. There are going to be more financial tracings and communications records checking to see who was tied into what happened and how much it was actually planned ahead. The list is going to get bigger and bigger.
ReplyDelete6:56 A raid is the execution of a search warrant with the element of surprise because there is a reasonable likelihood that the people and place to be searched will use force to resist the search and/or destroy potential evidence. So, a search warrant has to be issued before a raid can occur. But the execution of a search warrant does not always require a raid, such as in the case of the defendant already being arrested and then a warrant is given to search the person’s vehicle that was parked near the scene of the arrest (eg, a hotel parking lot).
ReplyDeleteSo using that and your logic I think the FBI missed the opportunity. They should have broke out the crash wagon, rounded everyone up on site until they could prove who they were and not involved, ripped out walls, shot the place up, used the water cannons to fight back the trump supporter crowds, and arrested anyone with a weapon in or near the place. Now that would have been a raid that would go into the history books.
@7;05 so which is it is he a china agent, a Ukrainian contact, a Russian hack, or what? I wish the Repukes and tRump cult followers would decide on something and stick to it instead of crying every convenient things to deflect and distract. For the majority of all of them they have no reality other then what they are fed.
ReplyDeleteCrying and whining until something sticks is about the same thing my 4 years try's when he wants cookies and is told no the first time. At least with him he has learned that lying will not be tolerated and comes with penalties unlike most of the tRump cult followers and enablers.
Wow the grifting continues. Everything is about money for Trump. How many hundreds of millions will he try to make from non brain MAGA cultists. Note the very last sentence that he was even low enough to try and make money off his x-wife's death.
ReplyDeleteOn The Last Word With Lawrence O’Donnell Tuesday, the MSNBC host kicked off the show by sharing an email he’d received from former President Donald Trump’s fundraising team. This email was asking for donations in response to the former president’s Mar-a-Lago home being raided by the FBI Monday, executing a lawful search warrant, reportedly looking for classified material Trump took when he left the White House, which is against the law. O’Donnell read the email aloud as it appeared on the screen.
“Mar-a-Lago was raided,” the email began. “The radical Left is corrupt. We must return the power to the people. Please rush in a donation immediately to publicly stand with me against this never-ending witch hunt.”
This is nothing out of the ordinary for Trump. Just a few weeks ago, he posted online announcing the death of his ex-wife, Ivana. The statement included a donation link at the bottom.
2:49
ReplyDeleteHow about DEFUND the Trumpster! Absolutely!!!
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DeleteMy God, he's going to be president again. And he can thank Merrick Garland, the calamity Jane of modern American politics. Truth is much stranger than fiction.
ReplyDeleteAnother hoax TRUMP WILL WIN AND THE COUNTRY will be better.
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