- 58% of Americans now support the impeachment inquiry initiated by the U.S. House
- 60% of Americans believe Donald Trump is unethical
So far as I can tell, this poll failed to ask whether those sampled are actual voters.
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Tuesday, October 08, 2019
WaPoPoll: 58% of Americans Now Support Impeachment Inquiry
A poll was conducted for the Washington Post by the Schar School of Policy and Government between October 1-6 of a random national sample of 1,007 adults (69% reached via cell phone). This poll reveals the following:
So far as I can tell, this poll failed to ask whether those sampled are actual voters.
So far as I can tell, this poll failed to ask whether those sampled are actual voters.
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The Washington Post(Jeff Bezos/Amazon) are known Trump-haters and globalists. They can contract for a survey showing any result they want. Probably, 95% of any group polled would approve of receiving free stuff. But, they wouldn't actually vote that way.
ReplyDeleteAgree, there are probably 60% of respondents who think Trump is unethical.
When you identify actual High Crimes and Misdemeanors, a formal impeachment could work. This Inquiry STUNT is far from legitimate.
You lost me at Washington Post. Or Washington Compost
ReplyDeleteOh yea!? There was a “poll” out on election night having Hillary up by 12% how did that turn out? Madam President? I don’t think so!
ReplyDeleteGiven the level of controversy about the President’s actions, a formal impeachment inquiry seems legitimate. Such an inquiry should be open, transparent, and provide all parties with equal ability to discover the facts. As currently structured in the House, only one side has the ability to issue subpoenas and call witnesses. This all but guarantees that the information gathered will be tainted and one sided.
ReplyDeleteA legitimate inquiry must be opened, as was done with Nixon and Clinton, by having a House vote to open the inquiry so that both parties have equal abilities to discover the facts. The current process under way in the House, without a vote by the House as a whole, will only result in a partisan and tainted result.
Please don't insult us with fake news polls... You are better than that.
ReplyDelete11:17, I’d love to see a return to the bipartisan approach we had with Nixon. Unfortunately, the Congress is hopelessly polarized, and it is clear to me that the GOP members in the House have no interest in determining the truth.
ReplyDeleteNeither do the Democrats.
DeleteI'm amazed how both camps have already decided the outcome. I think we've lost our collective effing minds. Pols will only stick with the narrative which will get them re-elected.
ReplyDeleteSo we think the opinions of people who are stupid enough to answer a call from an unknown caller are an accurate measure of public sentiment?
ReplyDeleteThe GOP members in the House aren't needed to do a REAL Impeachment process. The Dems have a good majority there. It's the Dems who seem afraid of a real Impeachment Trial in which the Defense gets to call witnesses, etc.
ReplyDeleteActually, it's the RINO, UniParty Republicans (like Toomey) who will make this happen if it gets to the Senate. Trump threatens not just you, but everyone in Congress who wants their gravy train to keep rolling along.
"Schar School of Policy"
ReplyDeleteGeorge Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government Arlington, Virginia, near Washington, D.C.
And you wonder why Trump calls out the Intelligence community.
Media and government working hand-in-hand.
Ridiculous propaganda only a novice would bite.
Odd. When the polls favored not moving for impeachment, Trumpkins believed them to be accurate.
ReplyDeleteNow, when virtually every poll conducted shows the public believes Trump should be impeached, they are not to be believed.
SURE Bernie you democrats use fake polls from a fake democratic newspaper you are an_sshole.
ReplyDeleteObviously, these polls spell bad news for Democrats. There's a reason they haven't moved to a formal vote. They're scared to death because they know what it will mean at the ballot box and don't want to be Brer Fox. Impeachment is Trump's only hope at pulling off another electoral miracle. That's why there's no vote scheduled, despite the transcript being available for all to see. As Dems masturbate to impeachment porn and MSNBC, Trump will be cruising to a victory that Dems handed him. And let's mourn the death of Joe Biden's political career. No matter how this plays out, he's already dead, and just too stupid or stubborn to fall over.
ReplyDeleteDo not believe ANY poll results these days. Very easy to skew in one direction. Also don't believe ANY television news talking head, including the newly-liberal FOX Channel.
ReplyDeleteWhat a world we live in now. Lying and deception are quite common.
1:17
ReplyDeleteBetter get some different tea leaves to read.
The only voters Trump will have remaining are his bigots and racists. Independents and anti-Hillary Democrats are realizing authoritarian Trump needs to be held accountable.
If Trump really cares about saving the GOP he will resign.
Trump's horrendous decision to pull our support of the Kurds is just one more impeachable offense in my opinion. I remember clearly as the war unfolded the concerns over the Kurds, and what they have done to combat ISIS through today. They have something like 50,000-60,000 terrorists in detainment, and the loss of our support means those terrorists could very well be set free. This man is an impulsive menace to our national security. Anyone who can't see that the requests for foreign powers to dig up dirt on the Bidens or any political rival merit impeachment, is not looking.
ReplyDeleteOdd. When the polls favored not moving for impeachment, Trumpkins believed them to be accurate.
ReplyDeleteNow, when virtually every poll conducted shows the public believes Trump should be impeached, they are not to be believed.
12:48 PM
It's not odd! You have bit on favorable propaganda same as the Trumpkins. What's odd is that you don't know that, and keep trying to make a distinction between you and Trumpkins when you're the same.
You are arguing if there are good witches or bad witches when there are no witches.
1:33pm
ReplyDeleteSo much effort was spent dividing us, to the point where we have little regard for each other.
Now we're suppose to collectively care about Kurds or Syrians.
If all the Syrian and Kurdish people died in their sleep tonight, tomorrow nobody'd give a shit. Such phonies.
What frightens me is the chance that some of you zealots may have jobs!
ReplyDelete"What frightens me is the chance that some of you zealots may have jobs!"
ReplyDeleteThat's why I support Bernie Sanders so only you have to work.
Independents hate impeachment. Rs learned this in the Clinton years, and Independents are a much larger bloc now. There's a reason smart Ds are slow walking this. They could successfully vote on articles of impeachment this afternoon. All of this would be meaningful if the transcript wasn't already public. But it is.
ReplyDeleteBernie @ 12:26 - You only cite the GOP: is it also clear to you that the DNC members in the House have no interest in determining the truth?
ReplyDeleteHope it shows just how bad / desperate the Democrats really are. Biden is the real issue meeting with Ukraine , yet somehow it is Trump's fault. Just like Hillary's emails , giving the Iranians ( a terrorist state) Federal $$$$ and nuke material . ????? Like to know who the whistleblowers are? We have a right to know also if the democrats have a right to know everything that supposedly takes place behind closed doors or in the Presidents private life. It is downright spying which is treason. The overthrow attempt continues. Like how they are truly attempting to solve America's issues. NOT ! Shameful and Pitiful.
ReplyDeleteRemember when the Repubs squealed about Obama using executive orders? That was somehow "lawlessness".
ReplyDeleteNow we have an actual lawless, corrupt President. Impeach as soon as possible.
I'm amazed how both camps have already decided the outcome. I think we've lost our collective effing minds. Pols will only stick with the narrative which will get them re-elected.
ReplyDeleteNo, just the Repubs have lost their minds. It is obvious this President is corrupt and enriching himself and his family via his office. The Democrats haven't changed to accept this like Repubs have. The Repubs have rejected law and order.
"Schar School of Policy"
ReplyDeleteGeorge Mason University Schar School of Policy and Government Arlington, Virginia, near Washington, D.C.
And you wonder why Trump calls out the Intelligence community.
Media and government working hand-in-hand.
Ridiculous propaganda only a novice would bite.
What the fuck are you talking about, Gomer? Those are institutes of learning, not media outlets. Get a clue after your shift at Wawa Is over.
It's not odd! You have bit on favorable propaganda same as the Trumpkins. What's odd is that you don't know that, and keep trying to make a distinction between you and Trumpkins when you're the same.
ReplyDeleteNonsense. To live in your world, ALL media, every journalist, every website EXCEPT Fox and Breitbart are participating in a giant propaganda program. Do you really believe this nonsense? Everyone is out to get you, huh? Get a dog.
3:50PM
ReplyDeleteThe Washington Post is not a school of learning.
Schar school of policy and government alumni work where? Smart guy.
Stop shitting on Wawa employees and go hug a Kurd.
This is such Bull Shit:
ReplyDelete"interviewers first request to speak with the youngest adult male or female at home. Cellular phones are treated as individual devices and the interview is conducted with the adult answering the phone."
So they surveyed a bunch of teens or 20 year olds, who primarily get there news from Cobert at Comedy Central and late night shows. Yeah... ok
3:53PM
ReplyDeleteNice try...now just click your heels 3 times and you'll be home.
It is hilarious to read along as Trump’s myrmidons attempt to deflect every negative piece about their cult hero.
ReplyDelete” You only cite the GOP: is it also clear to you that the DNC members in the House have no interest in determining the truth”
ReplyDeleteSorry it is pretty much only the GOP in the House and Senate who have stood reality on its head.the majority of Dems resisted an impeachment inquiry until left with no choice.
Bernie
ReplyDeleteMaybe you should stop trolling the Dems and take a poll on who supports who.
I think you may not be surprised.
Bernie O'Hare's institute of learning.
ReplyDeleteThe nice thing about Trump is you don't have to deflect any negative piece. All you got to say is "I know he is, but what about your guy." and get the popcorn.
After the trial in the Senate I cannot wait to see how Pat Toomey votes. And if he votes "no" I want to hear how he explains his vote.
ReplyDeleteIn Aruba we get news maybe two days late . I think your pollsters are incompetent. Trump is picking up speed because of the Socialist,the Communist and the Knocklheads In Democratic Party at higher levels .I offer no opinion,I just stating what I think to be true as I receive information almost 2 days late.
ReplyDeleteI think Sen. Lindsey Graham said it best, before becoming just another Trump lap dog:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw2ZHDdxVUk
Next week it will just the opposite. Vote for impeachment or get back to really important issues.
ReplyDeleteMuch ado about nothing. Trump will serve four more years after this term. BLM took a poll of NAACP members to see if cops are racist. Guess what the vote was?
ReplyDelete9:25pm
ReplyDeleteI know the poll the Black Panthers took. Guess what the vote was?
Polls are like that...
Bernie @ 5:27 – “Sorry it is pretty much only the GOP in the House and Senate who have stood reality on its head.the majority of Dems resisted an impeachment inquiry until left with no choice.”
ReplyDeleteReality seems to change with your point of view and bias. One sees a President inquiring about the admitted corrupt acts of a high-ranking elected official and investigation of interference with our elections and the other sees a President trying to get dirt on a political opponent. Which one is standing reality on its head?
But if impeachment is so necessary, is it also necessary to do it by a kangaroo court? Why not follow precedent and do a House vote so the other side can also issue subpoenas and call witnesses. It would seem that the process is designed to get the desired result of the ones in charge, an example of the left’s lack of desire to get the truth. It would seem that they do, in fact, have a choice.
Nothing in the Constitution, statute, or House rules requires a House vote to commence impeachment proceedings.Your argument is sheer nonsense perpetuated by Trump's minions, whose game plan is to obfuscate, delay, attack and repeat. Trump is in the Pelosi wheelhouse now, and she has no obligation to kiss his ass. If she does decide to call a vote, and she could, that will indicate to me she intends to seek an impeachment. Or she could just let this play out. This is her call as the House Speaker, not Trump's.
ReplyDeleteTrump will not be impeached and the Democrats are gonna look foolish yet again, just like the Russia thing. This is destroying the Democrat party and any confidence voters have in it. Please come back to reality.
ReplyDeleteRasmussen has a poll out too, it questioned 1000 voters only Democrats and Republicans. It turns out 75% of those questioned don't want to have an impeachment inquiry, and 40% do.
ReplyDelete11:25, The Democrats have the votes necessary to impeach already. They are trying to build up a body of evidence for the trial in the Senate. In order for that effort to be fruitless, members of the administration will have to stop admitting to crimes on live television.
ReplyDelete"Rasmussen has a poll out too, it questioned 1000 voters only Democrats and Republicans. It turns out 75% of those questioned don't want to have an impeachment inquiry, and 40% do."
ReplyDeleteThis adds up to 115%.
Read the White House reply to the Democrats in the House written by WH Attorney Cipollone. The full text is available with footnotes. You will find there IS a problem with the Constitutionality of this Inquiry scheme. It relates to Rights of Due Process AND the Supreme Court has already ruled it DOES apply to Impeachment Proceedings.
ReplyDeleteTrump (on several occasions) has demanded a full vote in the House. Until then, there is no obligation to participate in what is being called a "kangeroo court." The Inquiry nonsense can continue on, of course. Just more propaganda.
“Nothing in the Constitution, statute, or House rules requires a House vote to commence impeachment proceedings.”
ReplyDeleteValid point but I believe your strong feelings about Trump have overcome your legal training and desire for a fair trial…and an impeachment inquiry is much like a trial. And, if what I write is “nonsense,” wouldn’t a formal inquiry overcome your histrionics about GOP obfuscation?
And to allow Trump the ability to defend himself is having Pelosi “kiss his ass”?
Your lack of fairness and equity surprises me unless, in your case, Pope was correct: “All seems infected that the infected spy, As all looks yellow to the jaundiced eye.”
Fact is, any Impeachment decision will NOT hold up in court. Impeachment IS a trial and due process is REQUIRED. A removal of Trump would be overturned by the Supreme Court.
ReplyDeleteWhat the Dems are trying to do here is flood the media with slanted fodder, to get a witness to slip-up on some minor detail, etc. Best for the Trump White House to ignore the whole thing until each Dem in the House take personal responsibility with their vote, then open the effort in correct form with an opportunity for the defense to call it's own witnesses and require uncovering of documents.
Go ahead, Nancy. Let's get it on!
Trump is losing farmers, steel workers, and now Evangelicals, to name only a few groups who see what a mess he is.
ReplyDeleteI he isn't ousted by the Senate, his bigoted and racist 30 percent base won't be nearly enough to keep him in office.
*If
ReplyDeleteTrump will not be impeached and the Democrats are gonna look foolish yet again, just like the Russia thing. This is destroying the Democrat party and any confidence voters have in it. Please come back to reality.
ReplyDeleteAnother genius that thinks he and one or two news channels are right and the ENTIRE REST OF THE MEDIA is in on a propaganda program. These Trumpers really lost a crucial part of their mental capacity.
BTW, Mueller would have had Trump's ass in a sling if not for that DOJ memo. He's a corrupt and incompetent person who must go as he's embarrassing the nation and getting people killed.
Rasmussen has a poll out too, it questioned 1000 voters only Democrats and Republicans. It turns out 75% of those questioned don't want to have an impeachment inquiry, and 40% do.
ReplyDeleteTrump math.
Please, do us all a favor and not engage in politics. You have the mental capacity of a 2nd grader.
Valid point but I believe your strong feelings about Trump have overcome your legal training and desire for a fair trial…and an impeachment inquiry is much like a trial. And, if what I write is “nonsense,” wouldn’t a formal inquiry overcome your histrionics about GOP obfuscation?
ReplyDeleteAnd to allow Trump the ability to defend himself is having Pelosi “kiss his ass”?
Your lack of fairness and equity surprises me unless, in your case, Pope was correct: “All seems infected that the infected spy, As all looks yellow to the jaundiced eye.”
The defense of the President happens in the Senate, Archimedes. My god, man, these people are slap happy idiots.
8:57, otherwise known as an equal to the great mind of Einstein:
ReplyDelete"In Walter L. Nixon v. United States, the court held that the judiciary could not review impeachment proceedings. According to the constitution, the House has the "sole power of impeachment" and the Senate has the "sole power to try all impeachments." The Supreme Court considered this sufficient evidence that the framers did not want the judiciary involved. Further, because judges themselves can be impeached, it would violate separation of powers to allow them to review such cases.
Remember back in 2012
ReplyDeleteMr: Obama: “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,”
Mr. Medvedev: “Yeah, I understand, I understand your message about space. Space for you ... .”
Mr. Obama: “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”
Mr. Medvedev: “I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir”
Delay your push for missile defense until after my election (since it could be perceived negative to my re-election against Romney, who pointed out the Russia threat) and I’ll have more flexibility to give you more wiggle room in our future agreement.
Far more direct than the Trump phone call. Involves Foreign actors. Involves Russia and Putin. And it doesn’t exclude 542 words between the work “favor” and “Biden” in the Trump transcript.
CLEAR. AS. DAY.
Where are the headlines?
Obama isn't looking for a quid pro quo but nice try, wannabe-Tucker.
ReplyDeleteThe present "Inquiry" can NOT result in an actual impeachment. A formal full vote in the House could lead to the process moving to the Senate. Only after passage there, AFTER DUE PROCESS PROTECTION, can a real impeachment be determined.
ReplyDeleteWhat's going on now is for show, has no subpoena power, and can be ignored. Just have a full House vote and get on with it. That should pass easily due to the Democrat majority. However, there are 16 brand new House members who were elected in Districts won by Trump! A risky move by them.
If it does pass an official House majority vote, THEN there's more risk for Dems through the discovery process and witness testimony. They better be sure their OWN closets are clean!
2:30 - what is Trump's quid pro quo? Many legal experts have stated they don't see one. Your information is sorely needed!
ReplyDelete1:02 “The defense of the President happens in the Senate, Archimedes. My god, man, these people are slap happy idiots.”
ReplyDeleteInquiry – An examination into facts or principle: RESEARCH. (per Merriam-Webster).
Valid point as the trial, prosecution and defense, happens in the Senate but only after the House actually impeaches. Ms. Pelosi said she is opening an impeachment “inquiry” yet, by your statement and thought, it does not involve an examination of all the facts but only those of the prosecution whose mind is made up already so has little interest in the facts of the other side. Any verdict from the House will, therefore, be tainted, one sided, and highly partisan…which the public will see for what it is. This can be avoided, however, with a vote and a real “inquiry.”
As for your slur equating me to Archimedes (for which I thank you), I think I am more like Nostradamus.
QUID PRO QUO
ReplyDeleteDefinition: a favor or advantage granted or expected in return for something.
No quid pro quo huh?
You don’t push for resolution on this issue until after my re-election bid and I’ll give you more latitude.
March 26, 2012 Delay our negotiations to beyond the election and I’ll have more flexibility to give you more.
Oct 22, 2012 Mitt Romney challenges Obama on Russian threat in presidential debate.
Nov 6 2012 Presidential Election
March 12, 2013 Obama cancels part of Russian Opposed missile defense system
"This adds up to 115%."
ReplyDelete"Trump math.
Please, do us all a favor and not engage in politics. You have the mental capacity of a 2nd grader."
You don't recognize sarcasm?
2:30 - what is Trump's quid pro quo? Many legal experts have stated they don't see one. Your information is sorely needed!
ReplyDeleteYou mean blowhards like Dershowitz and Joe Digenova babbling nonsense on Fox? Step out into the actual world, you know, where actual people live outside of the Fox bubble.
2:39 has no idea what he's talking about. Pay his post no mind. This is a Fox view of impeachment, not an actual view.
ReplyDeleteNostradomus, 2:39 - Of course impeachment is partisan. Nixon's impeachment started as partisan as well. However, Republicans back then actually believed in the rule of law and love of country over party and opinions changed with the uncovering of evidence.
ReplyDeleteSame thing is happening now and we haven't even had public proceedings yet.
The only reason the Speaker is doing this inquiry is to keep her members from voting before all the facts are uncovered. In 1998, they didn't bother because they impeached on a bullshit charge over lying about marital infidelity. Trump's crimes are actual crimes and need more nuance to the inquiry. The Trump obstruction is not helping but will eventually hurt him as additional articles.
Trump told Lesley Stahl shortly after the election why he bashes the press.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/22/trump-told-lesley-stahl-he-bashes-press-to-discredit-negative-stories.html
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Stahl said she and her boss met with Trump at his office in Trump Tower in Manhattan after the 2016 election in advance of a recorded sit-down interview for “60 Minutes.
“At one point, he started to attack the press,” Stahl said. “There were no cameras in there.”
“I said, ‘You know, this is getting tired. Why are you doing it over and over? It’s boring and it’s time to end that. You know, you’ve won ... why do you keep hammering at this?’” Stahl recalled.
“And he said: ‘You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so that when you write negative stories about me no one will believe you.’”
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Well Trump's deal with Turkey is in full effect. Turkey has invaded Syria to kill the Kurds. They are sweeping though the area. Now we will see Trump Turkey International hotels and casinos. He is a businessman crook, pretending to be President. Shame!
ReplyDeleteTrump doesn't give a fuck about our allies - the men who our troops fought along side to defeat ISIS (thanks Obama). He has no honor or dignity. He's a cancer.
ReplyDelete