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Friday, January 30, 2015
Jail Supervisor Denied Counsel at Termination Hearing
Lt. Rosati has retained Counsel, but Corrections Director Daniel Keen has reportedly refused to allow him to be represented. This means that Keen either intends to exonerate Rosati for what we all recognize is bullshit, or that he does not know what he is doing.
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Maybe you don't know w hat you are doing, since you are not an attorney.
ReplyDeleteIf everything reported is correct, this will be a slam dunk for him in front of the PA Labor Relations Board.
ReplyDeleteFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ReplyDeleteA “Loudermill” hearing is part of the "due process" requirement that must be provided to a United States government employee prior to removing or impacting the employment property right (e.g. imposing severe discipline).
The purpose of a "Loudermill hearing" is to provide an employee an opportunity to present their side of the story before the employer makes a decision on discipline.
Prior to the hearing, the employee must be given a Loudermill letter–i.e. specific written notice of the charges and an explanation of the employer's evidence so that the employee can provide a meaningful response and an opportunity to correct factual mistakes in the investigation and to address the type of discipline being considered.
Does suspending this employee without pay before his hearing violate his due process rights under Loudermill?
And where is Council??
ReplyDeleteThey need to change the HRC so us voters and residents can oust incompetent elected officials.
Let's set precedent with Executive John Brown.
This is an overt attack against the current/old line jail adm. from within. It is not against a union backed employee. It is the JB way of cleaning house. The new director is now front and center in this one. Will he go this way or that way? My guess is he will push the Lt. out of the way and will challenge his rights to a fair hearing at all cost and hide behind his brand new job title.
ReplyDeleteThis is called setting the tone. New boss comes in and exerts his will..backed by his new boss. Classic stuff. Sends a strong signal to the troops. The wrong signal!
ReplyDeleteLet's hope that Keen has enough common sense to reject this witch hunt or the county will pay dearly for a lawsuit. The employee who should be fired is Allen for abuse of power.
ReplyDeleteI doubt the right thing will happen here. They hired this guy for this reason. He answers to JB. This one not that hard to figure out. Writing on the wall.
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ReplyDeleteAs I have stated before here..she is the brains of this operation. JB is lost w/o her. Cut off the head and the body dies. Harsh truth of the matter but that is the only way to turn this around now. Keep pushing back and push back hard.
ReplyDeleteElections have serious results. We are witnessing the fall out of an apathetic electorate right now in the county. It will take a monumental effort to undo what has been done thru the democratic process. It will not be easy and the real question is..who will initiate the turnaround and can it be done in time? Gracedale galvanized public opinion not too long ago. Can JB also galvanize the people to the point that they will again rise up?
ReplyDeleteVote for a Referendum to go back to a 3-Commissioner form of county government. All of this political ineptitude will be forced to a 2-1 majority vote and accountability.
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ReplyDeleteAn example of the outstanding work force in norco
Look at Keens past employment and his pay relative the last person to fill his position. He is not unqualified but if you look through his record you will find that he has never been in one place for more than a few years. Each place he goes has a major round of firings and then keen goes somewhere else.
ReplyDeleteHe's an axeman, plain and simple. His job is to come in, remove the old administration and then leave. He is doing to the job proscribed to him by our dearly beloved leader.
Back on Subject: Not allowed representation at a discipline hearing ?
ReplyDeleteLet the wrongful termination lawsuit begin.
20+ year employment vs 13 months of stupidity, who do you think will win?
I remember a Three Stooges short where the Stooges were in a row boat and Curly accidentally shot a whole in the bottom. Larry and Moe started bailing water out of the bottom, but Curly took a corkscrew to drill another hole in the boat so that the water would have somewhere to flow back out. Moe slapped Curly as a result.
ReplyDeleteI think we need a Moe to slap some sense into this administration.
"Maybe you don't know w hat you are doing, since you are not an attorney."
ReplyDeleteMaybe you could post a relevant message next time. Getting sleep at 3:48 AM instead of surfing the internet may be a good place to start.
Bernie framed the issue well. You simply laid a turd, instead of responding to what he wrote. Thanks for coming in today.
This Cathy Allen as president of Bangor Counsel talked witn the mic. 3 spots from where she was talking you could not hear a word she said.She is Browns hatchet person, she ran off 2 fire chiefs to try and destroy the Rescue Fire company , they have the newest building so town hall could take it over, guest what she and Brown are gone and Rescue is still there.
ReplyDeleteBO this guy is no angel and maybe they have his file which is probably a thick one just as hers is.Solution to all this bullshit fire both of them and please move on.
ReplyDelete"Does suspending this employee without pay before his hearing violate his due process rights under Loudermill?"
ReplyDeleteNot if there is a prompt hearing. The Brown administration, as we all know, is not very big on due process.
It's difficult to determine what's worse, the goofy executive or the miserable, hateful employees. And they were miserable before Brown showed up. stiffs wa called everything but his name. What a mess. Replace everybody from the exec to the janitor.
ReplyDeleteStoffa **
ReplyDeleteKim Yedlosky 1
ReplyDeleteRosati 0
Stiffs was a good name for him.
ReplyDeleteFyi. She Wasn't written up for dress code violations like everyone keeps saying. She got written up for insubordination. She refused an order directed to her about how she was dressed. When she refused to fix it she was written up.
ReplyDeleteHorse-crap! This man is a Veteran if I remember correctly. That mean discharged from military service with honorable conditions. The prison is an away entity from mainstream politics. Anon 10;12 said it best. I for one, would stick up for this defendant employee. I hope his attorney will call me, I have been in in out of that facility 20 years.Oh boy the light weights are going to sink to the bottom on this one.
ReplyDeleteI have worked a Marine Corps Red Line Brig aboard ship.NOTHING in civilian life has a parallel!Take this statement to the bank. Employees or personnel should not ever have chains ,bracelets ,or neck ties. This stuff can get them KILLED. "Normalization of deviation" is complacency. Then the personages people can't know about such issues ,they are comfortable in administration and can not foresee hazards do to their nature.
ReplyDeleteBO I urge you to get in touch with some of your contacts on the prison advisory board, Ms. Allen ran the show at the last meeting. She acted like she's had an extensive background in corrections and basically tried to run the show. I hope the prison board members could see through all of her bullshit.
ReplyDeleteLt.Rosati ,may not be somebodies favorite guy , but his job would be to oversee subordinates that's why they pay LIEUTENANTS,and Captains!Somebody has to keep an even keel on the sail boat . All the administration may be doing now is discouraging prospective new hires with qualifications that will go elsewhere and not even bother to submit application here ,subjecting NORCO to the bottom of the labor pool ,of candidates.
ReplyDelete6:23 while we are talking about meetings lets talk about the labor management meeting when a deputy warden who's supposed to be a "seal" acted more like the new directors puppy. You have 2 times the corrections and life experience of Director Keen and you might want to start acting like it!
ReplyDeletePeter, Lt. Rosati is a soldiers soldier and is firm but fair. He's getting screwed royally by this administration and doesn't deserve this treatment as a former veteran.
ReplyDeleteANON 6;40 tHIS MAN HAD TO TOW THE LINE, DURING HIS MILITARY service in his MOS. NORCO or EASTON,PA or Bridgeport ,Conn can not have it both ways.Military folks are better employee's than non service off the street types,and in certain occupations, it becomes almost 'visionary' as to what to expect next!
ReplyDeleteThis really pisses me off-- I will help defend this man ,and work for JUSTICE for him free , just as I have done cases for John Vivian ,Esq. and Stan Margle,Esq for pay over the years. My No is 610-248-0212 .Give me an attorney that does Military or Employment Discharge cases and I will do all the process service and help digest the complaint,FREE
ReplyDeleteIF someone IS A U.S.Navy SEAL or U.S. Marine it's real easy to document that . Let me tell you there are a lot of Vietnam Vet fakers among us too. U.S. Senses of late lists more people as Vietnam Vets then had ever been over there. Presently over 60% of all Vietnam Vets have died!People claim ,people believe -our own school district,here in -EASTON_- had an administrator everybody thought was a Marine Vietnam Vet . He picked up the lingo from a neighbor he drank beer with during his first marriage but when I saw his flag arrangement on his desk, he had it wrong. !st clue....
ReplyDelete@7:21 The "US Senses"? Are you cirrus?
ReplyDeleteThe admin want back & watched the cameras & their was NO CHOKER, he lied AGAIN on legal paperwork about this officer who he has a personal vendetta against. AGAIN there was NO CHOKER!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteShe didn't get written up for a choker, or unbuttoned shirt. She got written up for disobeying a direct order to fix what ever the problem was. The only time you don't have to follow a direct order is if it is unlawful. Even if you don't like the order just do it and file a complaint. Fact is she did not follow a direct order....
DeleteThat's funny, others have viewed it and there is a copy. Hmmm!
DeleteNow Im hearing she was coming to work in red pumps that just clashed w/ every thing animal
ReplyDeleteRules shouldn't apply to platinum blonde hotties like Kim & Tricsh. Their new union will be strengthened by the release of da tripod
ReplyDeleteshe should really stay w/ the purple pumps, goes much better w/ the gray shirt, Rock that shit
ReplyDeleteSo what he might be a bum, but if he did wrong then whats the big deal following the rules to fire him? This admin. just has issues with rules.
ReplyDeleteheard she want to Allen about getting new uniforms, fluffy blouses with sequins. crazy
ReplyDeleteProduce that tape & Ill pay $$$$ their is not one,because their was never a choker never, never,never. Rosati should know not to lie on legal paperwork
ReplyDeleteKimmie, why did you unfriend me on FB?
ReplyDeleteI want to be part of team Brown/allen/Mezz/Yedlosky, all the foes of O'Hare need to band together.
See you at champs for kareoke
This is one of the numerous false names used by Mezzacappa
ReplyDeleteCeltic Warrior, I'm sure you can come up with something a bit more witty. Like you did in the visiting room that got you terminated. 9:17 All in good time, the disc and your money. Thanks
ReplyDeleteTruth=hag yedlosky/\?
ReplyDeleteOdd how Mezz claims she is being stalked and having emails sent to her by a "monster", yet can't resist the temptation to keep her infamous name current by posting here daily. This doesn't sound like someone living in fear - other than the fear her assets will be yanked from her to pay a judgment she owes. Pathetic.
ReplyDeletedoes not necessarily have a right to counsel. Much depends on past practices, scope of pre and post termination hearings, contractual rights. Appeals courts have held against right of counsel
ReplyDeleteThank You Mr.O'Hare in making this situation public.Since the powers to be read this blog this situation will end soon.Always remember to pick Your battles carefully
ReplyDeleteDeputy Warden Kostura, you worked with Lt. Rosati as an officer, as a lieutenant and then you were his boss as captain but you sit on the sidelines instead of coming to this former military mans defense because job preservation is more important to you than integrity. Being Director Keen's lap dog is only a 3 year gig and I ensure you the employees that remain won't forget. I wonder if the new director knows your past history and how much money you've cost the taxpayers due to lawsuits?
ReplyDeleteThe entire prison staff is a nest of malcontents.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure some of the old-timers remember when that Deputy Warden was an officer and cried like a baby and pouted if ever taken off his C tier.
ReplyDeleteHis suspension is bullshit.. Telling a supervisor not to do his job is hysterical. Especially in this line of business. Maybe he should have turned a blind eye to security as well? I hope he sues the hell out of the county and Mrs. Allen gets the boot back to the gutter where she belongs. This woman (Yedlowski) is a complete idiot who tries to defy ever code of ethics and policy rules because she feels she is making a statement. She pushes all of the right buttons she can just to stir the pot. Idiots like her need to shut the F up and just do your damn jobs. Stop making all of the officers there look like their a bunch of recluse idiots.. Bernie there are officers who do care and do the right thing, let's not forget. The prison needs to turn back into a prison and not a circus or a a damn daycare. Professionalism needs to come back. The John Brown administration needs to allow the prison to manage it's own in house problems as well as every other departments.. Mr.Brown has bigger issues he needs to focus.Like how to waste more tax payers hard earned dollars on consulting firms and law suits..
ReplyDeleteMore spin and misdirection ejected from the toxic volcano of fabrication, just another day at LVR
ReplyDeleteMezzacappa, Produce the car that was levied on by the Sheriff. Quit hiding it.
ReplyDeleteKARMA is delicious !
ReplyDelete8:08-9, as of last week, the title was still in your name. So, once again, you are a liar. But now you are a liar who has committed a crime.
ReplyDeletewho said a word about tranfering the title?
ReplyDeletewe aint dumb, but you are and arrogant as fuck,
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you wont find it, EVER
DELICIOUS!
Why don't you put some energy into getting a job, paying your debts and contributing to the tax base. Why involve yourself in a convo about county government when you pay zero taxes and suck up resources? You are no different than a welfare queen. Oh and add another username to your ever growing list of usernames on lehighvalleylive. You are great at bashing people who actually have a job while you are sitting at home trying to milk society. Go back to New Jersey!
ReplyDeleteI made the comment at 1:14 and have worked at the prison for 20 plus years, it saddens me to see what Jimmy has become over the past couple years. I'd rather lose my job with dignity than sell my soul to retain it. You've become a punch line at NCP. I'm sure the wound in Dave's back will eventually heal but as long as you save your job I guess it doesn't really matter.
ReplyDeleteAnd to add to my comment at 9:02 it's time for you to show some backbone and come to Jason's defense. Maybe just maybe you can save what little dignity you have left.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that he doesn't come to jason's defense, but was such a vocal and stood so strong for a worthless female Lt.
ReplyDelete@1:14 Who is this Dave that Kostura sold out, and what were the lawsuits about? Do tell.
ReplyDeleteI worked at a prison (Lehigh County) that uses the same union and process. Him being a LT. he is NOT in the union and thus NOT protected like the union guys. He can be fired for almost anything and that is why most of us regular Officers didn't want to become supervisors, (no protection). Unless there is some policy I don't know about and unless it is federal or state discrimination sadly he can be fired for no reason at all. I know him and he is a decent person, I hate that this happened to him but this is inside jail politics and happens all the time.
ReplyDeleteWhat Lehigh County Prison likes to do to their supervisors other then firing them outright is inter-humiliation and demoting them back down to a grey shirt with the regular working stiffs. If he has the respect of his peers then this won't be a problem for him he will walk with his head high..but...if he forgot what it was like on the top, well.....
ReplyDelete"He can be fired for almost anything and that is why most of us regular Officers didn't want to become supervisors, (no protection). Unless there is some policy I don't know about "
ReplyDeleteThis LT is protected by career service regulation in effect in Northampton County. He is NOT at-will, and can inky be fired for cause, and onlyif the regs are followed proper;y.
7:50 where should we start this list is so long, hogtied females, broken arms? Or maybe we should start where he used his position at the prison to get his now wife a job with CEC (she was fired soon after)? The same wife that he started dating when he was a lieutenant and she was a contracted employee at the jail. Thankfully I have the ability to speak out because I have 20+ years in at the jail and can retire whenever I want, I'm sure others would love to comment but fear retribution. Employees at the prison know the employees I'm referring 2.
ReplyDeleteThis is what happens when you ignore a part of county government for over a decade. It deteriorates into the mess you now see being exposed..finally. Nobody is right if everybody is wrong. The time to clean house has arrived courtesy of John Brown and his fearlessness to wade into the quagmire that is NCP. Method may be suspect but results need to happen from top to bottom inside that facility. Only the strong will survive the purge.
ReplyDeleteThe body of the snake isn't the problem it's the head of the snake that has to go. The rank and file have gotten the job done despite of the poor leadership from above.
ReplyDeleteBernie - Wasn't aware of the Career service there. That changes everything.
ReplyDeleteI've seen Kim put lipstick on in the sally port before checking in with the lieutenant. Why do this moments before checking in? Prevoke a reaction.
ReplyDeleteWho cares about lipstick. Can we please be women!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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