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Tuesday, February 22, 2011

Stoffa: We Cannot Have 23,000 County Executives


A somber County Executive John Stoffa today told reporters he's instructed his Solicitor, Karl Longenbach, to appeal Judge Stephen Baratta's decision letting voters to decide whether the County can sell Gracedale, the County's nursing home. "We can't have 23,000 county executives making a decision and have a representative government," he reasoned. Stoffa's remarks are below.
Stoffa to Appeal Gracedale Decision

The Express Times has more here.

Updated 4:36 PM: Easton Patch has weighed in, too.

86 comments:

  1. 23000 no way

    2 yes

    Angle/ Stoffa

    hit the road "Jacks"

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  2. Stoffa didnt actualy think that we would get the signatures which he originally told us to go for it, now hes claiming its not legal. The people have spoken,let the vote be done by the people, not crooked politicians. I vote for a full investigation of Stoffa and Angle,somethings up there sleeves because they have been contradicting themselves since the get go! They need the cash from gracedale to cover there asses! QUESTION AUTHORITY!!! CALL THERE BLUFF

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  3. The irony. Residents who want to downsize County Government, get rid of Pensions, and criticize employee work ethic want to "save" Gracedale. Sure you do, because you want to admit your parents to the facility on the County's dime and are too cheap to pay for private retirement care. The old adage of "You can't have your cake and eat it too" fits well here...SELL GRACEDALE NOW, AND CREATE MORE COUNTY JOBS!!!

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  4. certainly there is 1 county executive and 9 council members. But when so many residents express their desire to call their representatives on a decision, the home rule charter lays out a method in which this can be done. no form of democracy is absolute. there are checks and balances. that an elected official doesn't like being checked on an unpopular decision is not in the least surprising.

    hold the vote. if the vote passes, the consequences will be council either raising taxes or spending less elsewhere. If it fails, then the people have spoken and angle/stoff can rest assured that they have done right.

    my guess is that angle and the R's are worried that the result will be much higher Democratic turn out than in 2009. That is why Angle wants this off the ballot. For stoffa, this is his last political stand. he has to fight this matter and he'd be wisest to do it at the polls.

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  5. Do you even know the price to admit a resident to a nursing home? Probably not. When your parents are old enough to be in a nursing home then let me know if you can pay for a private retirement center? I got news for you, no one is living there on the county's dime. Please tell me what money our county prisoners bring into our county? People have a lot to learn. You will find out the hard way when you want to put your parents in a home and can't afford a private retirement center and have no county home as an option.

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  6. Congratulations to County Executive John Stoffa for the oppositon to the judge's decision. It needs to be overturned.
    The issue has never been about the folks within the walls of Gracedale, its been about the union jobs and particularly the jobs for the bosses of the union. The rank and file of the union were willing to negotiate the bosses were not.
    Unionism is decreasing in this nation. They are directly responsible for the elimination of industries like shoes and textiles in America. They are responsible for the lose of factories like Bethlehem Steel in our own area.
    Industrial unions make up a very small percentage of union workers today. Most of the union workers are those in the public service sector, teachers, police, firemen. And the big problem with them, as we are now finding out, is the freebies that they got, free health care, dental care and eye care. In addition the pensions were not, as we now see, properly funded. Those of us relying on one of those pensions could see huge reductions or the elimination of those pensions. Why? Because guys like Tom Ridge failed to start paying for the teacher increased pension at the time they went into affect. Ridge put the first payment in 2012 as he started a 25%increase in teacher pensions and a 50% increse in the pensions of the state legislators. Union Governor Ed Rendell had 8 years to remedy this and failed to do so. In fact he kicked the can down the road again. Meanwhile the billion dollar debt keeps growing. Wake up folks we are in trouble and if you do not believe that look at the increase in commodity prices. Oil at $100 per barrel, gold over 1400 and silver at 34

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  7. To anon 4:51

    You completely missed my point. You can't vote on saving gracedale if you have a problem with paying county pensions.

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  8. I'd be happy with 1

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  9. unions are not to blame for the financial problems of america greedy politicians and corporate theives who give "donations" to would be & elected officials for "favors" including selling off of american jobs to foreign employers with little or know workplace rules and no minimum wage, exploiting their workers rights which in america we have thanks to unions. also most gracedale jobs are paying less than $40k except management

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  10. We have had two County Executives for the past five years; Angle/Stoffa.

    so why the need for one.

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  11. Battle Cry you need to relax. The Corporate Dream of getting America to third world status is almost here. It started in the 80's and is on course to be completed within 50 years.

    The novel idea of a middle class will be smashed along with the other dreams of all those WWII vet's who worked hard to live and have their kids in a better country than others.

    SAD Reality!!

    The US is fast approaching the regular status of 2 to 5% wealthy and the rest of the people fighting each other over the crumbs.

    As to the County, the public union like other public unions will be reformed as they have no choice. As to Gracedale, it's not all about the unions.

    Many people correctly understand that the law of the land will always place the care of the elderly on the counties shoulders. Once Gracedale is gone the County will be at the mercy of private companies who can charge whatever they want.

    Before you scream about "free enterprise and competition drives prices down", we haven't had "free competitive markets" for over 30 years.

    Once a company knows the government must buy a service they can stick it to them big time.

    Angle and Stoffa are selling you short-term kool-aide that will end up as long term goat-piss.

    But that is there brand of leadership.
    Whichever mob screams the loudest.

    There is no leadership in Northampton County.

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  12. To the battle cry of freedom have you ever heard of the Walker act of 1935? Try reading it!!

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  13. Stoffa tells the petitioners to circulate a petition, and wished them good luck. Of course he never thought they would succeed. Now he take them to Court all the while sicing his two goons Angle and O'Hare to tear them down.

    Not only is John Stoffa a hypocrite but he is also a disingenuous conniver. He pretends to support you to get your support but really is just a big time con man. A major disappointment in government. Of course to those who have worked with and for him none of this comes as any surprise.

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  14. Nonsense. Most counties don't have nursing homes and people there have places to go. This is truly all about public sector unions, pensions, and benefits. Specifically AFSCME which represents most county employees and cannot back down. They've been exposed as the money and muscle behind this effort. If AFSCME wins the appeals look for them to dump big $$ into the referendum. When Stoffa loses the appeal or the referendum, either taxes will go up or services will have to be cut.

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  15. why all the AFSCME bashing what about the steelworker union and thier rn's who earned $120.000 and $150,000 when their base salary is $60,000 all the rest overtime , remember their are two unions at gracedale not one

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  16. everyone forgets how wonderful the union was when stoffa attended union picnics etc.... when he wanted to get elected .... by the way stoffa gets 2 pensions !

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  17. Actually, he could be getting two pensions, but chose to work instead.

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  18. Good Point!! Some tend to forget Stoffa gave the Corrections Officers big time raises. Angle called it a great contract and supported it. Stoffa gave the PSSU caseworkers 7-8% raises. Angle called it a great contract and supported it. Stofa's team negotiated hefty raises for the Gracedale nurses, then the Tea Party hit Northampton County and Stoffa says, "who me?", not my contract, I know nothing of it. Angle jumps on board as well.

    This is just bullshit political pandering by two of the most disingenuous politicians to ever come down the pike.

    Stoffa has slurped at the trough longer than most and will get even more in retirement. Give those of us who live in the real world a break.

    You fools keep following this dynamic duo. They will dump you as soon as it is politically advantageous.

    Real World

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  19. Bernie he collects a Leigh County pension.

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  20. Yes, he gets a pension that he earned and could be getting two. You falsely claimed he is getting tow when, in fact, he only gets one pension.

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  21. "To the battle cry of freedom have you ever heard of the Walker act of 1935? Try reading it!!"

    Perhaps you should follow your own advice. It's the Wagner, not the Walker, Act.

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  22. "Good Point!! Some tend to forget Stoffa gave the Corrections Officers big time raises. Angle called it a great contract and supported it. Stoffa gave the PSSU caseworkers 7-8% raises. Angle called it a great contract and supported it. Stofa's team negotiated hefty raises for the Gracedale nurses, then the Tea Party hit Northampton County and Stoffa says, "who me?", not my contract, I know nothing of it. Angle jumps on board as well."

    All about the unions, isn't it? I thought this was about Gracedale.

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  23. "why all the AFSCME bashing what about the steelworker union"

    If the USW were negotiating for everyone at Gracedale, we would have had a deal before it came to this.

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  24. "Stoffa tells the petitioners to circulate a petition, and wished them good luck."

    Stoffa told no one to circulate a petition, but he made no effort to stop it. In fact, he let the Gracedale Goons turn the nursing home into their HQs. He believes in gov't of the people, by the people and for the people. That does not equate to mobocracy.

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  25. "There is no leadership in Northampton County."

    You just saw some of it.

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  26. the only leadership anyone saw was you leading the way and leading stoffa by his nose !

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  27. it isn't about unions but that sure is angle and stoffa's battle cry isn't it . stoffa is poorest example of a county executive this county has seen , it's a good thing he'll have some answering to do ,this is not a communist country we're in, he is easily lead by you and angle but he certainly isn't anybody's leader but perhaps yours.

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  28. lamont mclure had a wonderful article in the newspaper today , he's an amazing person who knows how to tell he truth , all the money is there john stoffa is hiding something. or he has his OWN agenda trying to hurt the very people he was elected to SERVE!!!

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  29. "When Stoffa loses the appeal or the referendum, either taxes will go up or services will have to be cut."

    If it does sell, it will be a "quick fix" and there will be a tax increase next year, and every year after.

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  30. "Some tend to forget Stoffa gave the Corrections Officers big time raises."

    They made big concessions, and received moderate raises which were fair for both the County and the Employee. A little foresight went a long way in their case.

    To turn this into one union against another is exactly what they want.

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  31. STOFFA AND ANGEL ARE TWO GOOD MEN THEY NO WHAT THEY ARE DOING THE HOME NEEDS TO BE SOLD AND MANAGMENT GONE AND OH YA AND THE UNION WHAT GOOD ARE ANYONE OF THEM I BELEIVE THAT THE GOOD GUYS ARE GOING TO WIN THIS ONE AND IM BEHIND THEM THESE GOONIES ARE CLASS CLOWS YELLING AT COUNCIL MEETINGS I ALSO SEEN THIS LADY KEEP POKING THESE TWO PERSONS AND DISTURBING THE MEETING THIS IS OUT RIGHT LOW AND RUID MY TAXES ARE HIGH ENOUGH AND I CANT AFFORD A TAX HIKE .OH I FORGOT THE PEOPLE AT GRACEDALE THAT WORK THERE CAN THEY MAKE BIG BUCKS ESPECIALY IN THERE OVERTIME THEY CAN AFFORD TAX HIKE I PRAY TO GOD MR STOFFA WINS AND THAT A NEW TEAM COME IN AND GET RID OF ALL THE LAZY AND NON CAREING PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE I GO THERE ALOT TO SEE FAMILY AND I ALWAYS SEE ALOT OF WALKING AROUND CELL PHONE IN EAR. BODY PEIRCING ALL OVER OH YA TATOOS GOOD GOD ALOT OF THEM YOU CALL THIS A NURSING COUNTY HOME WOW.IVE BEEN THROUGH ALOT OF HOMES AND THIS OPNE HERE NEEDS HELP AND THE WORD IS SELL IT ............

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  32. Stoffa told no one to circulate a petition, but he made no effort to stop it. In fact, he let the Gracedale Goons turn the nursing home into their HQs. He believes in gov't of the people, by the people and for the people. That does not equate to mobocracy.

    He told them to go for it
    and good luck
    Revisionist much

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  33. Anonymous said...
    STOFFA AND ANGEL ARE TWO GOOD MEN THEY NO WHAT THEY ARE DOING THE HOME NEEDS TO BE SOLD AND MANAGMENT GONE AND OH YA AND THE UNION WHAT GOOD ARE ANYONE OF THEM I BELEIVE THAT THE GOOD GUYS ARE GOING TO WIN THIS ONE AND IM BEHIND THEM THESE GOONIES ARE CLASS CLOWS YELLING AT COUNCIL MEETINGS I ALSO SEEN THIS LADY KEEP POKING THESE TWO PERSONS AND DISTURBING THE MEETING THIS IS OUT RIGHT LOW AND RUID MY TAXES ARE HIGH ENOUGH AND I CANT AFFORD A TAX HIKE .OH I FORGOT THE PEOPLE AT GRACEDALE THAT WORK THERE CAN THEY MAKE BIG BUCKS ESPECIALY IN THERE OVERTIME THEY CAN AFFORD TAX HIKE I PRAY TO GOD MR STOFFA WINS AND THAT A NEW TEAM COME IN AND GET RID OF ALL THE LAZY AND NON CAREING PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE I GO THERE ALOT TO SEE FAMILY AND I ALWAYS SEE ALOT OF WALKING AROUND CELL PHONE IN EAR. BODY PEIRCING ALL OVER OH YA TATOOS GOOD GOD ALOT OF THEM YOU CALL THIS A NURSING COUNTY HOME WOW.IVE BEEN THROUGH ALOT OF HOMES AND THIS OPNE HERE NEEDS HELP AND THE WORD IS SELL IT ............

    Bernie I thought Angle didn't post in here?

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  34. "He told them to go for it
    and good luck"


    If he had done anything else, you'd be screaming that he interfered in your First Amendment rights. He let you do what you wanted to do, and now he is doing what he must.

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  35. "lamont mclure had a wonderful article in the newspaper today , he's an amazing person who knows how to tell he truth"

    Repeating the same lie over and over does not make it true. There is no $60 MM slush fund, as he's called it, in the County coffers. Angle will be rebutting McClure's misleading and flawed op-ed, designed to make points at election time.

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  36. "the only leadership anyone saw was you leading the way and leading stoffa by his nose !"

    There is one County Exec, and he is John Stoffa. He was elected by the people, and overwhelmingly re-elected by the people. Stoffa follows his own counsel. If anyone thinks others can lead hom by the nose, they do not know him or his administration.

    He will ask his cabinet for advice, and then he makes up his own mind. He's been criticized for taking so long, but it is what he thinks is right, not what someone is telling him.

    Take this appeal, for instance. Stoffa thought long and hard about whether he should even appeal this at all, which seems like a no-brainer to me. He deeply cares about what the people who voted for that initiative were saying, and he respects the Court. Until yesterday, I really had no idea whether he would appeal.

    That's his style. He does what he thinks is right, and Angle has discovered more than once that Stoffa is in charge and no body else.

    I respect and admire John very much, and no matter what he would have decided, I know it would have been his honest belief and an attempt to do what is right.

    We could use a few more leaders like him.

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  37. McClure is so full of crap he should have his diaper changed. Regardless if the county has a sufficient fund balance to prop Gracedale up for a couple of years in the end it will still fail. The trends are for less reimbursement from state and federal sources, skyrocketing labor costs, and a poor business model. Gracedale will deteriorate or gouge the county's taxpayers for generations to come. In a couple of years there may no longer be a serious buyer showing interest in the facility. Then it will be too late. We have a repsonsible buyer NOW willing to pay $35 million to save the county millions of dollars in the future. There is no reason why this county, or any other needs to run a nursing home when 90% of similar facilities are operated successfully by the private sector. This is all about the unions trying to push taxpayers around like the disgraceful behavior of teachers in Wisconsin. Bravo Mr. Stoffa for doing the right thing in preserving the county charter and saving our taxpayers from having to subsidize a facility doomed to bankruptcy if kept in county hands.

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  38. This is probably too long to be read, but put it out there anyway...

    Stoffa: "It is my belief that the forefathers of this country wanted a representative democracy and not a petition form of government..."

    Federalist 10 (Madison): "It may be concluded from this view of the subject that pure democracy, by which I mean a society of citizens who assemble and administer the government in person, won't cure the harm caused by faction. In a pure democratic government, a common passion or interest will, almost always, be felt by a majority of the whole. There is nothing to check the inducement to sacrifice the weaker party or obnoxious individual.

    "Therefore, such democracies are always spectacle of turbulence and contention. They are incompatible with personal security or property rights. Their lives are as short as their deaths,....

    "A republic, by which I mean a government with a representative plan, suggests a different expectation and promises the cure we are seeking....representation, refines and enlarges public views by passing them through the chosen body of citizens...Under this system, the public voice, as pronounced by the representatives of the poeple, may be more in line with the public good than if all the people gathered and spoke for themselves."

    Of course, the caveat: "on the other hand the effect may be inverted. Men with local prejudices or sinister designs may...be devoted into office, then betray the interests of the people." But the cure? As Stoffa said, "this is why citizens are elected to office for a specific term and why voters can vote them out of office if they are dissatisfied."

    Whether you agree or disagree with him on Gracedale, he is right about this petition.

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  39. In your opinion, Lighthouse, in your opinion. Much like like this blog, all the apologist references does not change the fact that the guy does what Angle tells him to do.

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  40. WE ARE DISSATISFIED!!THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN,LET THE PEOPLE VOTE..THE MASSES ARE HIP TO YOUR WAYS. YOU HAVE LIED AND MISLEAD US FOR TO LONG..OUT WITH OLD IN WITH THE NEW..

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  41. Repeating the same lie over and over does not make it true.



    It worked wonders on the TEA Party and birthers when when FOX did it

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  42. I really had no idea whether he would appeal.

    Then you are the only one
    This is being scripted between
    you Angle and Stoffa
    He waited until he smelled blood with the lack of funds story
    which BTW was not true
    please give us a iota of credit
    enough with the attempted covert actions
    you actually indicted Ron as being involved in one of your statements

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  43. Whether you agree or disagree with him on Gracedale, he is right about this petition.

    Madison never invisioned these 3

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  44. Stoffa looks like he is a quart low lately
    Is he sick like Ron?

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  45. "ll the apologist references does not change the fact that the guy does what Angle tells him to do."

    As I've already stated, anybody who thinks that does not know John Stoffa. He makes his own decisions. It certainly supports your conspiracy theories, but it's untrue.

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  46. "Stoffa looks like he is a quart low lately
    Is he sick like Ron?"


    The person who is sick is the anonymous coward posting comments like these.

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  47. Stoffa knew last week he would appeal. Angle told him he had to. This was all for dramatic effect.

    First we have had the 3 stooges, then the 3 amigos and now the 3 con men.

    Ole!!

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  48. Stoffa does not look good
    and
    Ron told a friend of mine hes' been sick

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  49. Stoffa is protecting the Home Rule Charter and future Executives! What about current employees that elected him to represent them??? Angle is the only one of the three "friends" runnung for office this year. We know he is financing your appeal on the Gracedale sale. How much is he paying Stoffa for the same???

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  50. Lamont McClures letter in todays paper looks exactly like the Easton teachers union. Suck the surplus dry so we can keep our jobs.

    2 months expenses in the bank is not enough. I have six months expenses in the bank and still dont know how I am going to pay for a new roof on my house.

    The general fund does not take into account capital improvements.

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  51. Unions,Unions,Unions are they the real problem or is it the so called fakes that people elect.Example the county at one time sat on a 16 million fund then that turned into 44 million and now accordig to them they sit on 60 million of tax payer money.One council person states its a so called rainy day fund,wake up people its pouring outside.The 35 million from Gracedale will be gone in the blink of an eye what then hmmm!Guess what taxes will go up!Bernie why dont you post all the property Ron owns and lets see what a tax increse this so called bulldog might get,Iam sure you can get it being a title sercher,and by the way why dont you remind your readers of the Walker act of 1935?

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  52. walker act of 1935 doesnt apply to government employees moron

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  53. Bernie please forgive me it is the Wagner act sorry iam not as perfect as you!!

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  54. Anonymous 9:46PM
    Mr. McClure is misleading you. The county moved most of the money to "dedicated funds" instead of letting it sit in one fund. The county did this in order to get in line withh the Government Accounting Standards Bureau. Thus the tens of millions that McClure likes to site is really about $7million in the rainy day fund.
    The other thing you might want to keep in mind is that we are in hard times, hard times that could last at least 3 more years and maybe 5 years. Wake up and smell the roses. We are going to see a lot of changes because more and more people are making changes in their lives and one of those will be relatives who will be taking parents into their home. Gracedale and other such places are in trouble. Do you really think we can sustain people paying $7800 per month, not including meds, at Gracedale. Their population is going down and while reported at 630 it could well be below 600 inhabitants.
    As to Mr. McClure, he needs to tell the truth.

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  55. why is the attorney working for the purchase of gracedale representing the appeal? something is very wrong here.

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  56. Battle cry I agree. I have not seen the county financials, but one thing is for sure. Mr McLure refuses to accept the reality that gracedale itself is losing money hand over fist for a variety of reasons.

    He does not understand the loss in federal reimbursements for medicare and medicaid will make it impossible for gracedale to EVER be in the black unless the unions take MASSIVE hits in pay and benefits.

    Many private homes are going under and selling out to conglomerates...look around

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  57. "why is the attorney working for the purchase of gracedale representing the appeal? something is very wrong here."

    There is nothing wrong. This firm was hired to represent Northampton County, and that's what he's doing.

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  58. ok... isn't northampton county supossed to be representing the people ? it looks quite improper , given the fact they have a financial stake in the outcome .... or should i say gain ? i'm not an attorney but it doesn't seem right to me.

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  59. I see. Northampton County should not hire attorneys to represent itself bc it has a financial interest in the outcome.

    cuckoo.

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  60. it looks inapropiate because that company stands to profit from the sale .....dishonest to say the least.

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  61. brenda just bear in mind liars figure , but figures don't lie . check out the numbers.

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  62. and your saying stoffa made the decision to appeal on his own . baloney !!!

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  63. does anyone know bob casey or pat toomeys position on this ?

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  64. "and your saying stoffa made the decision to appeal on his own . baloney !!!"

    That's exactly what I'm saying.

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  65. "t looks inapropiate because that company stands to profit from the sale .....dishonest to say the least."

    Ths law firm does not represent the company interested in acquiring Gracedale. It represents the County and the County's interests in a specialized area.

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  66. And stands to make more money if the sale goes through than if it is halted
    conflict
    my furry friend

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  67. Another lie. The firm is being paid an hourly rate, up to $300k. There is no incentive for rushing a sale.

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  68. oh how i long for the days when people were honest.

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  69. Anon 12:04
    I dont need to check out the numbers. I am giving Lamont the benefit of the doubt that the numbers he wrote about are correct. Still does not mean Gracedale should be county run

    Heres an example:

    I own an antique car that is siphoning away my savings in upkeep and costs to keep it moving. A buyer comes along who wants to take it off my hands....SOLD

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  70. Here is another example

    I have a grandma who is mooching off the county at gracedale, she worked all her life and was a loser because she can't afford a private duty nurse
    along comes angle/stoffa with an offer to sell
    guess what sold

    I like the cut of your jib Brenda/Bernie

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  71. Another lie. The firm is being paid an hourly rate, up to $300k. There is no incentive for rushing a sale.

    I guess the appeal will assure they make the 300,000 thresh hold

    wanna bet it doesn't go much higher

    co-inky dinky

    amazing the genius of the stoffa

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  72. Not all unions are created equal. The problem is public service employee unions. They need to be eliminated. Their members will continue to enjoy the strong protections of the Civil Service Code, but not be able to hold taxpayers hostage and be used as a paid-for voter bloc for Democrats. Private sector unions are critical to the free market. They've been painted with the same foul, broad brush as their greedy and slothful public sector so-called brethren.

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  73. Five years from now when every remaining county that runs a nursing home is desperately trying to sell them off, we will praise the Stoffa administration for this visionary decision. Those counties will be broke or will hose their taxpayers to prop up those relics. Keep the course Stoffa and save the future of this county in the process.

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  74. Five years from now a new County Executive will expose the fraud and fallacy of the misguided Angle/Stoffa Adminstration policies that hold over $60 million of your local tax dollars in their hands.

    Of course they are better equipped to manage 'YOUR' money than you are and you should be grateful to them when in a few years Stoffa will need to raise taxes even after he sells Gracedale.

    these guys are the best con artists this Country has ever seen. Sadly the damage they are doing will be irreparable.

    Sad Times. Sad Times.

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  75. Bernie,

    I'm confused. You have enough influence to lead Stoffa by the nose but weak enough to let Angle tell you what to do.

    How exactly does this work? A mere bottom feeding blogger can be part of all this intrigue?

    Bill

    PS keep up the good work

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  76. Seven years no Northampton County tax increase other than half mill for open space. Who else can say that ? Stoffa`s administration is the most frugal in the county`s history.

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  77. "Five years from now a new County Executive will expose the fraud and fallacy of the misguided Angle/Stoffa Adminstration policies that hold over $60 million of your local tax dollars in their hands."

    This is untrue and Vic Mazziotti stated it as untrue, under oath, during the Gracedale hearing. The County's rainy day fund is much lower. According to Angle, it's really only around $7 million.

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  78. And according to Angle he wants a vote on the matter......except he doesn't and is funding your appeal.....the man speaks with forked tongue
    seems to be catchy

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  79. Actually Stoffa has proposed only five budgets and one has had a tax increase and this one needs the sale of the nursing home to fly. He has avoided others up to now by using up the largest cash surplus in County history and now by wanting to dump Gracedale.

    Your comments are like saying there were no wars during the Bush Administration except for peacekeeping military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Reality!

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  80. Toomey wants to bring in Chinese coolies to work for a dollar a day at Gracedale. Ron is okay with the idea until he isn't okay with the idea. It is election time you know.


    I work for Caseys cousin, they (the Caseys)are and were decent people and I will ask ,however, it might take until Friday.

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  81. "According to Angle", should be one of the funniest or scariest lines ever written. I just can't decide which.

    Uncle Bozo

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  82. Bernie do you really expect Ronny to tell you the truth?Another councilman was quoted in the Express times as stating 60 million.Whats the truth can you please post it and please ask someone other than Ronny Boy.

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  83. Stoffa is the Republican Trojan horse to bust the unions. This is less about Gracedale than the marching orders Stoffa got from the "Party".

    Why do you think he first got his major campaign money from a former Republcan Chairman. Why do you think Ferraro and other Republicans worked for him to beat Bob Nyce the Republcian candidate. Why do you think he was given the list of Republcians to hire for his cabinet. Why do you think he was given no Republcian opposition in his re-election bid.

    He and the goons on County Council will destroy Gracedale and damage the health and safety of the residents just to bust the union.

    Shame on them and Karma will be waiting in 2013.

    Sadness In Truth!!!!

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  84. Based on recent behavior, it sounds more plausible than your observations Bernie.

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