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Thursday, December 17, 2009

Son of Stimulus Narrowly Passes House.

The margins of victory are getting smaller.

The final tally last night was 217-212 in support of what has been dubbed "Son of Stimulus," a $174 billion spending measure for "shovel ready" jobs and to bail out state and local governments.

I think they're nuts. As noted in Insanity Defined, the federal government has spent, lent or pledged nearly $13 trillion since December of 2007, when the recession began. That's $42,105 for every man, woman and child in the United States. The net result is that since January of this year, another 3.5 million Americans have lost their jobs, and the unemployment rate has soared to 10%.

Time to fire up those printing presses!

This latest vote could explain why, for the first time, less than half of this country approve of President Barack Obama's job performance.

Lehigh Valley Congressman Charlie Dent voted against this second stimulus because of its misguided use of recovered Troubled Asset Recovery Program (TARP) funds that should have gone to reduce our deficit. Since the first trillion-dollar stimulus has failed to thwart rising unemployment, to say nothing of those 4 million jobs promised by President Barack Obama, Dent believes this would simply be throwing good money after bad.

“I cannot support a ‘Second Stimulus’ when the first one has not yielded sustainable job creation,” Congressman Dent said. “If the majority wants to create jobs there are a number of ways to restore confidence and boost private-sector hiring. But excessive spending on government growth is the wrong way to go.”

TARP was originally enacted as a temporary plan to address an extraordinary crisis in our financial markets as a result of the collapse of financial firms that the government said were ‘too big to fail.’ The Administration has extended the TARP program to October 3, 2010, which has opened the door to efforts by Democrats in Congress to begin spending unallocated and repaid TARP funds for programs unrelated to the financial emergency.

“It is an irresponsible breach of the public trust to treat the TARP funds repayments as ‘found money’ for new spending,” Congressman Dent said. “If we are going to invest federal money, it should be done sparingly and wisely, and this Congress continues to spend excessively and without consideration for long term consequences."

Bucks County Democrat Patrick Murphy joined Dent in voting NO. He told Pennsylvania Avenue's Scott Kraus, "I broke with the Democrats on the spending bill because it uses bailout money to pay for new spending. That is wrong. Any money returned from Wall Street should be used to pay off national debt."
Congressman Dent also voted against another bill increasing our statutory debt limit to $12.4 trillion. He had earlier proposed that Congress should lower the debt ceiling by the amount recovered under the TARP program.

26 comments:

  1. From Reuters:

    States would get $23 billion to pay 250,000 teacher salaries and repair school buildings, and $1.2 billion to pay for 5,500 police officers.

    States would also get $23.5 billion to help pay their share of federal healthcare programs for the poor.

    One of the most frightening aspects of this bill is that it is serving to prop up failing states. At some point, not too far in the future, states and local government units will no longer be able to pay teachers, police officers, firefighters. CA and NY are virtually non-functional at this point. They will foreshadow what happens to us.

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  2. Thank your friendly Republican from the last administration or the mess we are in.

    Consider that the New Deal had to do the same "frightening" things to fix what had been broken.

    I may not like debt just as much as anyone else. I HATE greedy Republicans who let the system collapse by providing tax deductions on $1,000,000 mortgages; reduced the taxes on the very rich, while spending, spending, spending; starting an endless war; getting the rest of the world to hate us; allowed the health care system to reward large corporations and not the sick; and descimate (sp?) the best parts of the capitalistic system.

    Don't talk to me about deficits. Talk to me about ethical behavior that cares about all Americans, not just the priviliged few.

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  3. What most people aren't talking about right now, is that President Obama is making moves to cut Social Security and Medicare, very high tax hikes on everyone in all income ranges, and cuts in other federal spending.

    Money has to come from somewhere and China has stopped lending it to us.

    The first "stimulus" ended up being a total waste and I suspect this second one will be a big waste as well.

    I supported the first stimulus till I read where the money was going to. It wasn't going to long term investments into growth but short term spending. It gives a temporary boost in jobs but it creates no wealth.

    That coupled with the mandated insurance, I have come to the honest conclusions, the President is either corrupt or has no idea what he is doing.

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  4. I also want to add there has been some recent defections in the democratic party ranks over economic issues.

    Paul Volcker is telling anyone who will listen, that the entire economic recovery is nothing but government spending and it is unsustainable because of our national debt.

    There is no reform in the banking sector, the area of the economy that caused this mess to begin with. A bank produces no economic wealth, they are necessary to do business, but a bank produces nothing in forms of the 3 ways to create wealth.

    As someone who is a progressive, I find it absolutely maddening, that in the worst crisis since the Great Depression, the President focused on Health Care instead of cleaning up the mess of 30 years of banking deregulation...than I start to realize the President is to banking what Bush was to Oil.

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  5. I agree this is a bad idea. But for the following reason..

    As of December 1st -75% Of The Stimulus Remains Unspent
    Would you grade a test paper when the student filled out only 25 of the 100 questions?

    If you want to grade the success of the so-called stimulus or throw another log in the fire, let's wait till 75% is spent, not 25%.

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  6. 1. The idea that a nation can spend its way to prosperity is discredited by all past attempts.

    2. It is far less than heroic to make excuses for today’s problems. Bush has become a distant memory so it is past time for the Democrats to take full responsibility for the economy, domestic and foreign affairs.

    Scott Armstrong

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  7. Every group of comments has an "eat the Rich!" and the usual "Bush was worse!" (anon 1:23)commenter, and this is no exception, as if there is unlimited money available in the pockets of those greedy exploiters. Dumber than a bag of hammers.

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  8. Jacob,

    I better look in my drawr and see if i tok the right pills today. I find myself agreeing with you on a national issue.

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  9. i can appreciate dent being against this bill and other spend bills for that matter. what I don't understand is his double speak:
    http://blogs.mcall.com/valley610/2009/12/you-cant-have-it-both-ways-or-can-you.html

    If you are against it, be honest and don't try to claim that you brought money back to the district. you can't have it both ways charlie.

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  10. Dent sponsored that project and voted for it in the Commerce Justice & Related Agencies Appropriations Bill. He voted for some of the funding last year. When everything was combined and made an amalgam of six spending bills that increased spending by 12%, he voted against that bill.

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  11. Amen to 1:23. Everyone acts like the the economic crisis wasn't caused by the Republicans or that the first stimulus wasn't passed during the Bush administration. As long as we don't have gay marriage and W is in a restricted gated community, the country can all just go to hell according to the Republicans.

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  12. Anon 9:22, The first stim package came from Obama, not the Rs. I think you are confusing that w/ TARP. Having said that, it's a bipartisan problems that begs for a bipartisan solution.

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  13. There is no such thing as a bipartisan agreement to anything bernie..The Republicans have one plan and one plan only. That is to vote against everything Obama wants and to make life miserable for him. They want the White House back in 2012 and they don't care if the country goes to hell in the mean time. They are a pathetic. miserable, wretched group of politicos with no conscience. When they opposed the first Stimulas they ranted on about how we needed more jobs created. Stim 2 is totally focused on that and they still unanimously oppose it. Give me a break. The Dems have their issues too but at least they're trying..

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  14. Both sides are too partisan. Pelosi, the House Speaker, is about as partisan as you get, and creates a lot of the problems in the House. How about harry reid comparing R opposition to single payer health care as the equivalent of supporting slavery?
    Dent has distinguished himself in this climate by his willingess to cross party aisles.

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  15. Spend, spend, spend.

    Tax, tax, tax comes next.

    Okay, time for spin cycle.

    :)

    Merry Christmas

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  16. Bernie,

    I need to check my pill box as well. Of course when you are a member of a political party that's modern incarnation is that of fighting large banking interest and the leader of your party, is the biggest friend those interest ever had, the world seems a little topsy turvy.

    I have no problem with regional banks and local banks. Generally speaking they provide a valuable service to the economy. It is the national banks that are the problem, and there is no desire by this administration to do anything about it. In short we are doomed for either a moderate recovery and epic fall again or a double dip depression.

    Invest in manufacturing, farming, transportation to encourage trade, or mining or some other form of resource extraction. Government jobs are not going to bring the United States into prosperity.

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  17. "Both sides are too partisan."



    We have a winner of the most inane comment of the day.

    Ds passed this nonsense. I guess Rs were partisan to oppose? It's a one party show right now. And its funny to read a liberal calling the vanquished minority too partisan as they're powerless to stop breathtakingly large and sweeping spending programs.

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  18. The GOP, the Party of the three R's

    Rude, Racist and Republican!

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  19. "You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent."
    -Senator Joe Biden


    Mahatma Gandhi "ran a gas station down in Saint Louis."

    -Senator Hillary Clinton


    Some junior high n*gger kicked Steve's ass while he was trying to help his brothers out; junior high or sophomore in high school. Whatever it was, Steve had the n*gger down. However it was, it was Steve's fault. He had the n*gger down, he let him up. The n*gger blindsided him."

    -- Roger Clinton, the President's brother on audiotape


    "You'd find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they'd just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva."
    -- Fritz Hollings (D, S.C.)

    "Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey's cars?"

    -- Left-wing radio host Neil Rogers

    Blacks and Hispanics are "too busy eating watermelons and tacos" to learn how to read and write." -- Mike Wallace, CBS News. Source: Newsmax


    Black on Black

    "In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture."
    -- Harry Belafonte

    "Republicans bring out Colin Powell and J.C. Watts because they have no program, no policy. They have no love and no joy. They'd rather take pictures with black children than feed them." -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager for the 2000 election

    (On Clarence Thomas) "A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom." -- Spike Lee

    "He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black."

    -- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage

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  20. "Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

    -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1944, after he quit the KKK.


    "I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities."

    -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate", in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.

    "These laws [segregation] are still constitutional and I promise you that until they are removed from the ordinance books of Birmingham and the statute books of Alabama, they will be enforced in Birmingham to the utmost of my ability and by all lawful means."

    -- Democrat Bull Connor (1957), Commissioner of Public Safety for Birmingham, Alabama


    "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."

    -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, "Inside The White House"

    (On New York) "K*ketown." -- Harry Truman in a personal letter


    "I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a nigger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America."

    -Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess


    "There’s some people who’ve gone over the state and said, ‘Well, George Wallace has talked too strong about segregation.’ Now let me ask you this: how in the name of common sense can you be too strong about it? You’re either for it or you’re against it. There’s not any middle ground as I know of." -- Democratic Alabama Governor George Wallace (1959)

    On Jews

    "You f*cking Jew b@stard." -- Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray. This was revealed in "State of a Union: Inside the Complex Marriage of Bill and Hillary Clinton" and has been verified by Paul Fray and three witnesses.

    "The Jews don't like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that's a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes." -- Louis Farrakhan (1984) who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002

    "Now that nation called Israel, never has had any peace in forty years and she will never have any peace because there can never be any peace structured on injustice, thievery, lying and deceit and using the name of God to shield your dirty religion under his holy and righteous name." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, 1984

    'Hymies.' 'Hymietown.' -- Jesse Jackson's description of New York City while on the 1984 presidential campaign trail.

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  21. "Jews — that's J-E-W-S." -- Democratic state representative Bill McKinney on why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002


    On Whites

    "I want to go up to the closest white person and say: 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."

    -- Charles Barron, a New York city councilman at a reparations rally, 2002


    "Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them." -- Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights


    (I) "will not let the white boys win in this election."
    -- Donna Brazile, Al Gore's Campaign Manager on the 2000 election

    "The old white boys got taken fair and square." -- San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown after winning an election

    "There are white n*ggers. I've seen a lot of white n*ggers in my time." -- Former Klansman and Current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the "conscience of the Senate" in March of 2001

    "The Medicaid system must have been developed by a white male slave owner. It pays for you to be pregnant and have a baby, but it won't pay for much family planning." -- Jocelyn Elders

    The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning, that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years." -- Louis Farrakhan who campaigned for congresswoman Cynthia McKinney in 2002, City College audience in New York

    "There's no great, white bigot; there's just about 200 million little white bigots out there." -- USA Today columnist Julienne Malveaux

    "We have lost to the white racist press and to the racist reactionary Jewish misleaders." -- Former Rep. Gus Savage (D-Illinois) after his defeat 1992

    "White folks was in caves while we was building empires... We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it." -- Rev. Al Sharpton in a 1994 speech at Kean College, NJ, cited in "Democrats Do the Dumbest Things

    "The white race is the cancer of human history." -- Susan Sontag

    "Reparations are a really good way for white people to admit they're wrong." -- Zack Webb, University Of Kentucky NAACP

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  22. If the suggestion being masde by the last two comments is that people say stupid things and are sometimes insensitive and racist, you've made your point.

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  23. The point is that the asshole who repeats the three Rs should look in the mirror at his own gang's sheet collection. It's extensive and well documented.

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  24. Bernie, please continue to let those posts stand. They are substantive and clear cut examples of facts backing up a position. Maybe they can teach 11:48 p.m. a little about contributing something other than its usual simpleton banter.

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  25. Instead of flying out LVIA 45 minutes early, Barack Obama should have met with elected official of the Lehigh Valley to discuss their needs.

    It was a real disaapointment how the Obama advance staff handled this visit.

    Apparently they only think Allentown, Bethlehem, and Easton have a Main Steet.

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  26. The GOP is in full fight mode. Of course we all know it is the Party of the three R's

    Rude, Racist and Republican!

    and they prove it every day in every way.

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