Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan, scheduled for deployment to Iraq, went on a rampage at a military processing center in Fort Hood opn Thursday, fatally shooting 12 and wounding 31. Lehigh Valley Congressman Charlie Dent has released this statement:“I share the shock that Americans feel today over the horrific shooting attack at Fort Hood, Texas. My thoughts and prayers are with the soldiers and the families of the victims – people who already sacrifice so much every day.
“Troubling reports have come out in the media about possible motives and activities by the alleged attacker. As a member of the House Homeland Security Committee, I take very seriously any incident that may be inspired or coordinated by foreign terrorist operatives inside our country, and especially within our military. We must be ever vigilant in our determination to find and stop our enemy, which is unyielding in its determination to harm Americans and disrupt our free society. However, until a full investigation by the Army and law enforcement is completed and all facts are known, I urge people to refrain from excessive judgment or worry over what may have motivated this senseless tragedy.
“For now, let’s focus our thoughts on the victims, the families, and the great courage of our men and women in uniform, who risk their lives for our freedom and security at all times and in all places.”
President Barack Obama has asked us not to jump to any conclusions. "We don't know all the answers yet and I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts."
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ReplyDeleteI wonder if the guy in Florida is a Christian. We should feed those people to the lions if he is.
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ReplyDeleteThere are plenty of things to attack the President for, this guy isn't one of them. He has been in the military since the 1990s. The US military paid for this guy to go to medical and psychiatric school under George W. Bush, he was promoted under President Obama but he already had the rank of Captain.
This tragedy is not a political issue and for your fervor against Islam and maybe your defense against Christianity as a Christian you should be reminded that this world is not your home and Christians are citizens of God's kingdome before they are that of any country.
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ReplyDeleteIf I had to work at Walter Reed I think I might lose my mind too....especially after seeing all those poor mangled young men and women for a mistaken cause when the REpublicans voted to cut funding and benefits for veternans.
ReplyDeletePig Pen,
ReplyDeleteI mean this in the most sincerity.
The word Allah is not strictly for Muslims. It is an Arabic word meaning God. So when we Christians of an Arabic background pray to God, we also use the word Allah. We share the same language.
These three you will hear predominantly from Christians:
Inshallah = God willingly.
Nushkarallah = Thanks to God.
Nasarallah = Grace of God.
And Allah Akbar = God is Great, you will predominatly hear from Muslims.
Either way, Allah means God; although it may be a different God, you are still hitting a nerve.
My heart bleeds for all the human beings that were harmed yesterday.
Peace be with you, ~~Alex
Allahu Akbar was the same phrase being uttered by the 9/11 hijackers but we're not supposed to talk about that. We're pretending we're not at war with a religious based culture that happens to be Muslim. We refuse to call our enemy by its name. It's time to hit a nerve. Why is it politically correct to stand down when faced with threatening religious nuts of any stripe?
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ReplyDeleteBernie Ironpig is doing nothing but make irrational personal attacks. All his comments should be deleted. You have deleted others for much less.
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ReplyDeleteThe guy in Florida didn't kill in the name of Christianity.
McVeigh claimed Christianity, he was denounced by Christians everywhere, and sentenced to death by a Christian judge.
Pedophile priests and their enablers, polygamist child abusers in other denominations. Shunned by Christian society, turned in by Christian society, punished by Christian society.
On the other hand, planes fly into the towers killing thousands, the beheadings of Berg, Pearl and others, and this horrific event, barely a peep from the ROPers.
And of course, the one they revere the most, the one they will behead you over an unflattering cartoon, Big MO, was a pedophile. He took a six year old as his bride.
And yet MO is worshipped and held
in highest esteem.
Yeah, I see the similarities.
War..what is it good for? Absolutely NOTHING! Easy to blindly hate and the comments here prove that. Love your enemies commands the Lord as well as your loved ones. That calls for reason and discernment. All of us are HIS children including those we call the enemy.
ReplyDeletePlaying the blame game is a real cop out. Solutions and ideas solve problems..not finger pointing! Get off your couch and turn off FOX news and get out in the real world and effect change if you feel that strongly about an issue. Shouting and beating your chest on a political blog is pathetic.
ReplyDeleteAnon 3:14 PM,
ReplyDeleteIsn't it:
All Politics ARE Local?
If you are going to throw grenades, might as well use spell check...
Peace, ~~Alex
"Muslims want to convert or kill us --- simple as that."
ReplyDeleteIrnpigpen, This is unture. It is biased and ignorant. It is unfair to generalize about any religion like that. If truth be told, we Christians probably have the Muslims beat when it comes to killing people.
"Bernie Ironpig is doing nothing but make irrational personal attacks. All his comments should be deleted. You have deleted others for much less."
ReplyDeleteYou are correct. I was away from the blog for about 12 hours, and saw what he has done. I think statements that demonize the Muslim religion are about as accurate any Muslim would be in demonizing Christianity. Father Alex would know best, as he spends a lot of time studying these points.
The comments have been up for some time and I'm tempted to say the damage has been done. But I cannot allow these blatantly bogoted ad ignorant comments to stand.
Everything posted by IronPigPen in this thread will e deleted. And to my friend, IronPigPen, I ask that you treat people who have different ideologies than you with a little more respect. We've had this onversation before, and I've been forced to delete you before.
Thanks Bernie..for removing the filth from the blog. Sadly..there are millions who think like him and what do we do about that? A daunting task indeed.
ReplyDeleteReact to the tragedy,,react react react. Why in the name of whatever God you choose, do we have a hard time understanding that any WAR albeit in your home,on your street, in your state or anywhere on the planet creates insanity!!!!!
ReplyDeleteIn the name of old glory we are taking young men and women and creating killing machines. Good old John Lennon said it best. Give peace a chance..... I don't know anyone who is not effected by a war.. Politics politics politics
This is directed to Bernie and Volvo: The pig has posted on his blog a "f*** you Muslims" rant and says he no longer wants to blog. How long before people have the decency to remove the links to his hate speech?
ReplyDeleteUm, I was at a playoff football game until a few minutes ago. IronPigPen has been a valuable resource on minor league beaseball, better than any I've ever seen. There are actuallt two brothers working together.
ReplyDeleteI have repudiated the attempt to blame all Muslims for the sins of one man. I decided late last night to delete this bigotry. But I am reluctant to delete the link to IrnPigPen based on what I agree is a hateful post. I have exchanged emails w/ oe of this duo a few times and I know how much at least one of them cares abot everybody. So I will not be rash and jump to any conclusions that it has suddenly morphed from a baseball blog into an anti-Muslim blog. If it does, I will delete my link. But that will be my call.
Pitiful whiners, censors who say want they want, but call for the deletion stuff that offends their soft little "sensibilities".
ReplyDeleteSticking your head in the sand is your solution to keeping it from getting cut off? Good luck with that.
Dave, you are a douchebag. If you don't want to read comments, what the hell are you doing on a blog? Grow a pair. And how do you know all he has done is comment? There is a lot more going on out there then you realize. But you sit tight, pussyboy. Others, like those brave soldiers who the Islamoterrorist slaughtered, will take care of things so you can sit and pontificate about solutions.
Your messiah is taking the diplomatic route, reaching out, "standing with them when the winds at home shift against them", as he said in his book. So it is not surprising that just yesterday we find the Iranians have tested sophisticated warhead systems.
As for 2:57 pm, "I might lose my mind too..."
You are truly disgusting. Making excuses, explaining for the killer to make your infantile political point when people who defend your life with theirs are slaughtered.
Finally, maybe the good priest can explain to everyone how the Crusades (Christians have them beat when it comes to killing?) came about in the first place. I know, but it is evident that many
here do not. It's become routine to invoke that argument when defending the Islamofascist killers, but they started it back then, and they started it this time. They believe women are worth less than men. They believe in forcing marriages on children, and they hold as their supreme Prophet a pedophile who made no excuses, but felt it God's will.
OK Davey, we'll have a conference and find some solutions. No, how about a cancer is a cancer, and time to remove the tumor completely, even if it means taking some healthy tissue along the way.
We didn't end the second World War with negotiations and solutions. We did it by crushing the enemy and even its supporting society.
John Lennon? That drugged out, wife and child abandoner is your hero? That is rich.
IronPigPen, Don't attack me readers, attack me. I deleted your comments because you blamed a major religion for the actions of a misguided lunatic. Tht's wrong. It's biased and it's not even logical.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Pig. Was me, also at 7:05. I am just an observer of this conversation, and this is what I saw in those people who have the "right" type of comments.
ReplyDeleteYou and I have agreed on plenty in the past -from Bruce Gilbert to the Sheriff issue to obliterating racism, to your cool stuff on baseball - and hopefully will again. We've also had a few dust ups on teachers and Villa (I'm a lot tougher on him than you are), and now this.
You'll say I should come out from behind the anonymous tag, maybe you are right. But, I've got kids and I won't saddle them with the burden of their father's opinions. Retaliation, in the schools and among opposite-minded adults toward kids is very real, and you are much more widely read than your stats might lead you to believe.
I'll leave you with this: Dave talks about puffing up your chest on a blog. Well, his lecture is nothing more than that. Arrogance and condescension on a blog.
I speak from a little different experience. I was in an office building across the harbor, just across from lower Manhattan on 9/11. I saw things that would make you pledge every day to eradicate those bastards, and those who make PC justifications for it. Like the MSM is trying to do right now. But all their PC Religion of Peace nonsense is just that, this guy attended the same mosque in VA as three of the 9/11 crew.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6521758/Fort-Hood-shooting-Texas-army-killer-linked-to-September-11-terrorists.html
And here's another ROPer from his mosque in Texas.
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PIG is dead on.
7:05, That comment is still standing. Your assertins at 8:36 are logically flawed. It is illogical to conclude that because some Muslims commits atrocities, all Muslims therefore commit atrocities or that the Muslim religion is therefore a religion of hatred. That's first year logic.
ReplyDeleteYou are thinking emotionally. You are angry about 9/11 and what happened Thursday.
A far as 9/11 is concerned, we know the people responsible are in Pakistan and Afghanistan. If there is any basis for believing that what happened Thursday goes beyond an isolated wingnut, I'm sure the FBI will find out.
But venting on an entire religion is actually ... unAmerican. (Except we historically do it. Think about it.
Do you know any Muslims? I have some Muslim friends who are about as violent as Bruno. Give yourself some time to cool down.
Don't take hateful remarks made by someone at some mosque and attribute those comments to every Muslim.
ReplyDeleteShould I take some of the goofy things some Christians say and attribute them to every Christian?
Or perhapsyou should really be pissed at and hate anyone named Duane. Acciording to that BBC report, at leasst two persons named Duane made some callous remarks about the soldiers who died. Should we therefore assume that everyone named Duane is anti-American?
Don't take hateful remarks made by someone at some mosque and attribute those comments to every Muslim.
ReplyDeleteShould I take some of the goofy things some Christians say and attribute them to every Christian?
Or perhapsyou should really be pissed at and hate anyone named Duane. Acciording to that BBC report, at leasst two persons named Duane made some callous remarks about the soldiers who died. Should we therefore assume that everyone named Duane is anti-American?
I hope every Duane rots in Hell!
ReplyDeleteHe should be supporting healthcare and not worrying about things happening in a state whose governor wants to secede.
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ReplyDeleteI just got back. I was in Brooklyn all day. Left at 6:30 AM and just returned. I witnessed seven of our laity received The Distinguish Papal Honors of Dames and Knights of the Order of St. Gregory. I was rubbing elbows with priests from all over the east coast and a few bishops. I was lucky enough to assist the Papal Nuncio to the United Nations to vest. The vestments he wore were worth the total amount of $$$ I have made in my entire lifetime. Humility... that's why I wear nothing but black.
Anyway, I feel awful like I contributed to this misunderstanding. Or that I wasn't around to help out and maybe assist in some sort of way.
But if you have the time, look at the history of the country of Lebanon and its Christian, most especially the Maronite Catholics. Lebanon is the last, and originally was the first, country in the Middle East were Christian have substanial numbers.
The government of Lebanon is a democracy that bases the amount of people ascribed to a certain religion to have a proportionate amount of representation in the Parliament. There are Sunni and Shia Muslims, Christians - Catholic and Orthodox, and Druzes represented. Even Hezbollah has there own sect of there Muslim niche. But this type of Democracy has always been a type of government that has had other Muslim controlled nations jealous and upset. Many, many countries has played upon the bureaucracy in Lebanon. Thus, using the dipolmacy within bureaucracy to set up camps and fight their wars within Lebanon. With a depleted army and barely any resources - factions like Hezbollah Muslims and their military might feel the need to illegally represent themselves as defenders of Lebanon. This is the most recent problems with factions (whether legitmate or not) trying to force themselves into a democractic society that basically has no support from within or from without. When it boils down to P's and Q's, the radical Muslim factions want their cake and eat it too.
But if you go back further, you will see that the initial influx of Lebanese into the United States was to seek relief from faminine and persecution from the Turkish Muslim regimes. They would bring their mass armies and force the Lebanese, most especially Christians, to give them their crops. With the influx of the Turks, they brought with them disease that almost irradicated the north of Lebanon. There are still older Lebanese that speak the stories of the own personal accounts of run-ins with the Turkish forces. They would claim that when two Turkish soldiers would come upon a pregnant Lebanese women, they would make a bet as to what sex the child would be. With that, they would slice open the woman's stomach to see who would win the bet. Leaving both the mother and her child on the roadside to die.
But let's take it back even further, one of the twenty-two rites of the Catholic Church is called an Antiochene Rite. Antioch which is in between present day Syria and Turkey (both predominantly Muslim countries.) This Antiochene Rite has an established Syriac Church called the Maronite Church. The Maronite Church traces it roots back to Syria. The Apostle Simon Peter established the very first Holy See in Antioch. Later, he moved onto Rome, establishing a Holy See that is the sight of his martyrdom and the central point for the Catholic Church.
ReplyDeleteBut Antioch is were Peter taught and evagelized Christianity to the Antiochenes. This Maronite Rite can still trace its roots to Simon Peter to this very day. In the liturgy, the liturgical language that is used is a dialect of Aramaic called Syriac. It would have been the language that Christ spoke himself.
Why am I telling you this? Simple - persecution and faith. Out of bad, come a blessing. The Maronites being persecuted fled to the strongholds of the caves and mountains of Northern Lebanon. They fought fervently against the persecution that the Muslims brought forth. The Maronites not only keep that tradition alive but survived. (One of the unique things that helped them was a language called Karshuni. Since the Muslims and the Christians shared a common language of Arabic, the Christians needed some better way to get their message to one and another without a chance of the message being intercepted and understood. So the Christians used the Syriac letters to phoenetically spell Arabic words. Karshuni / Qarshuni - is a language distinct to the Christians of Northern Lebanon.)
But here is the blessing part. Out of the twenty-two rites of the (Universal) Catholic Church, there is only one that has stayed true to the faith from day one until now. This same branch is the only Church in the entire Catholic Church that does not have a schismatic counterpart.
It is the Maronite Church.
And the reasoning is very simple. They went into hiding to flee persecution. When they went in, they went in with the simple knowledge of Peter's teachings, nothing else. This Eastern Rite, came down from the mountains and out of the caves with the message still intact. All the while, the Western Church (Roman / Latin Rite) was have problems with the Reformation and Martin Luther.
Not too many people know this story. And if they do, it is not always received well. We believe that we, our Church, may hold the keys and answers to some of the problems with theology and ideology of the modern day.
But until then, we have these progressions that are owed to the Muslim persecutions and the ability of the Holy Spirit to guide the Church even when she may appear in trouble.
Like I said before, I feel horrible for the grief this past week's episodes have caused to all. But I am of the schooling to look at the entire picture and try to discern, so I may see God's will and how he wants me to proceed towards his will.
Peace, ~~Alex
Islam is a Christian heresy. Period.
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ReplyDeleteOn the basis of Tuesday's election, I think Dent is safe. if anyone is nervous, it should be Callahan.
ReplyDeleteI think Callahan will drop out, especially if he doesn't have the backing of the pro-healthcare Dem crowd.
ReplyDeleteI thought that this was interesting. I wonder if any of you witnessed this in any news reports.
ReplyDeleteThere was an Imam in Virginia during the Fort Hood shootings. He promulgated The Koran there. He then traveled to another country, Yeman, and made a statement from there.
He called the shooter in the Fort Hood incident a heroic person. He congratulated the shooter for shooting and killing these people.
Here is what I do not understand:
There is a religous cleric, celebrating a fellow follower of the Koran, for committing felony crimes against innocent people. Am I missing something?
I realize that every facet of society has some extreme wing that does not represent the majority. But what is the point behind this Imam's declaration? Is he celebrating the fact that non-Muslims are better off dead if they do not embrace Islam?
Sadly, these are the people that are teaching others this method of viewpoint.
For we, not only as Christians, white people, black people, or whatever; but we as non-Muslims have to stress co-existence. Tolerance of one and another are a key piece of this puzzle. And the value of life, no matter how small or large, is precious at any cost.
I am very upset with this mentality. But what is good for the gander is not good for the goose? I ask this Imam, why don't you act in such a way? Why doesn't your own, personal children act in such a way. Is the Islam faith that important that it doesn't warrant you or your own children dying for its cause? You never read about an Imam, a cleric, or a cleric's family member dying for Jihad.
Put a fatwah on my head. I am proud to exclaim that I have assisted in many Muslims being baptized and converted to Christianity. That is a death warrant on my head right there.
But what I challenge the Imam's to illuminate us by explaining their views on life and love.
Why do you allow men to marry more than one woman? Can you give us a valid answer? Isn't the love between one man and one woman important? By allowing the man to marry more than one woman, you are devaluing the status of a life, a woman's life. (This is the next challenge that awaits us when defining what a marriage is. This problem is already in Canada. Next thing you know a man can marry a tree or a man can marry his daughter.)
Anyway, Islamists believe that we as humans were created in the image and likeness of God. Why wouldn't we at least tolerate one and another; if not love one another. It is the mere respect that we have for God or a god that is in each and everyone of us. It is for the mere respect of the bond created between The Creator and the creation/creature.
I preach not to condemn, but to put us on equal footing. If in the interim I spark an interest, I advise that Christianity is not easy. It isn't always easy to love your neighbor as you would love one's self. But I would ask that you would examine and research such a tolerated and educated way of simplicity called LOVE.
Peace be with you,
~~Ishkander Youseff
I agree with you Angry Priest, very good essay!
ReplyDeleteHere is more on this upsetting stage of events:
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Peace, ~~Alex
Fundamentalist Muslims are being taught that they are unworthy of Gods love and the only way to save themselves and their loved ones from eternal damnation is Jihad. They hear this drum beat their entire lives and the fear of unending punishment is what propells the suicide bombings and hatred of the white man and his religon. When church and state melt into one the results can become truly horrific.
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