tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post6553583430289872230..comments2024-03-29T09:02:21.634-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: Dertinger Alienates Some Bethlehem DemsBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-89865266059918415802009-06-11T22:19:40.356-04:002009-06-11T22:19:40.356-04:00Really? Consider my comment a not-so-friendly warn...Really? Consider my comment a not-so-friendly warning. My last.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-27662334379317434232009-06-11T15:51:37.087-04:002009-06-11T15:51:37.087-04:00Bernie,
Saying you have dirt than not revealing i...Bernie,<br /><br />Saying you have dirt than not revealing it is as bad as revealing dirt. Leaves too much up people's imagination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-12665827285677701452009-06-11T12:04:27.678-04:002009-06-11T12:04:27.678-04:00It's sad that Dertinger and Long have to crash...It's sad that Dertinger and Long have to crash a meeting where they're not welcome or invited to get their point across . Norco Dem Party doesn't even have meetings anymore because no one will go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-37080986965267055222009-06-11T10:41:01.021-04:002009-06-11T10:41:01.021-04:00"I'll bet Dertinger is squeaky clean or e...<em>"I'll bet Dertinger is squeaky clean or else you Dent and the Republicans would have brought it out then."</em><br /><br />Hey, I'm a lot nastier than Dent. And I'm not running for anything. But unlike Long Dems, I like to fight fair. <br /><br />I'm just reminding Long Dems that if they continue to get personal with the same tired old complaints, I can hit my readers with much juicer information that hardly anyone knows about and that will make Dertinger and other Long Dems look like pieces of shit. In doing so, I reduce myself to your level. I have gone for years w/o doing that but you are begging me. <br /><br />As far as the "low hanging fruit" or the remark about holding hands is concerned, let Dertinger explain it to the gay community. Not all of them are as forgiving as Hopkins. He should be called to account for those remarks. <br /><br />I'd also like to know why the whisper campaign against Karen Dolan started the moment she complained about Long Dems.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-35405460958298039582009-06-11T10:18:56.592-04:002009-06-11T10:18:56.592-04:00Why do some people write anonymous comments? Maybe...Why do some people write anonymous comments? Maybe because retards like Dertinger print attributed comments out, take them to political meetings start reading them and confronting people for expressing their opinion. Not everyone likes immature, unprofessional, catty confrontational catfights. Hooray for Karen Dolan. I love her. She has more balls than Long and especially Dertinger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-71272307795217361662009-06-11T10:10:47.653-04:002009-06-11T10:10:47.653-04:00The LongDems are experts at their own demise. The...The LongDems are experts at their own demise. They couldn't be more adept at alienating themselves and losing support for their cause if they tried. Who the hell does Dertinger think he is going there? What if Stoffa crashed a Bangor Democratic Committee meeting and started lecturing people?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-8616775619191225022009-06-11T10:07:10.943-04:002009-06-11T10:07:10.943-04:00Lorraine Pasquali hitched her wagon to Charles? W...Lorraine Pasquali hitched her wagon to Charles? What's that about? Miss Progressive Democrat hot on national issues is a Longdem? That is odd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-77674045021654510682009-06-11T09:50:54.368-04:002009-06-11T09:50:54.368-04:00Dan says,
"Charles is sexy hot"? anon 3...Dan says,<br /> "Charles is sexy hot"? anon 3:38 am, what are you snorting? If my dog looked like him, I'd shave his ass and make him walk backwards!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1937222093538016552009-06-11T09:16:38.784-04:002009-06-11T09:16:38.784-04:00BOH
You have just made Dertingers argument for him...BOH<br />You have just made Dertingers argument for him in offering to attack his brother and perhaps other family members. You are a hateful individual! <br />Dertinger ran for congress and all the Republican / Dent attack machine could dig up was some ridiculous unamed connection to a "corrupt political wheeler dealer". I'll bet Dertinger is squeaky clean or else you Dent and the Republicans would have brought it out then. <br />And since you have tried to throw everything including the moronic "low hanging fruit" Bullshit you have already shown your hand and...You got NOTHING!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-26833205519326913352009-06-11T06:45:51.173-04:002009-06-11T06:45:51.173-04:00Bernie, my brother is a multiple felon who has ser...Bernie, my brother is a multiple felon who has served time in more than one state prison. What does that say about me?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-88019030776589744862009-06-11T05:22:20.564-04:002009-06-11T05:22:20.564-04:00Donald,
Running for office is an enormous of time...Donald,<br /><br />Running for office is an enormous of time, privacy, and investment. Finding people willing to run is not easy. Finding qualified people willing to run in a district with a republican incumbent in a district with more republicans than democrats is nearly impossible when you are honest with them. What would you suggest party leaders lie to people to get them on the ballot?<br /><br />Being qualified makes them not stupid. Which makes the party leaders jobs hard in making a sale. <br /><br />That and the limited resources the local parties have and the many hands who want those resources and the fact that the party is a totally volunteer run organization.<br />I swear if you read Bernie's blog you'd think we had a Washington D.C. Style DNC up and running here.<br /><br />But keep your criticism, its easier and makes you feel better about not being involved. <br /><br />Other than Donald. I have no clue who the heck you are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-24867293591980315912009-06-11T03:38:22.138-04:002009-06-11T03:38:22.138-04:00Charles is sexy hot. He is better looking than An...Charles is sexy hot. He is better looking than Angle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-88840726987957922132009-06-11T01:32:36.126-04:002009-06-11T01:32:36.126-04:00Why the $%^& did he even go? What business do...Why the $%^& did he even go? What business does he have there? Who the hell does he think he is? He's a nobody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-2451293269229338362009-06-11T01:29:15.176-04:002009-06-11T01:29:15.176-04:00Heavily edited and opinionated statements dressed ...Heavily edited and opinionated statements dressed as fact democracy;yes, this is true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-39974516474946984222009-06-11T01:26:10.558-04:002009-06-11T01:26:10.558-04:00Donald, Bernie has stated his acceptance and under...Donald, Bernie has stated his acceptance and understanding for people who choose to post anonymously. I used to hate it too, but this is a popular blog, and publicly expressing political opinions can cost one a job. I know I can't take that risk.<br /><br />Anon 6:55, your focus on my fashion reference -- at the expense of actually dealing with the true substance of my post -- is an attempt to reduce my factual recounting of what happened on Monday to my sole fashion observation that Charles Dertinger came to the meeting dressed like a flag. Sorry, Anon., but I think it's a telling detail, in a story about Democratic values being put to the test, that the most anti-constitutional guy in the room was dressed in an Uncle Sam costume without the stilts, or the stature.<br /><br />To Anon. 7:56, your deeply personal and undated attacks on the host of this blog were irrelevant to the subject. The troubles Bernie had in the past don't matter in this moment; what matters is he is the best Blogger host we've got in the Valley. Do you not enjoy the opportunity to exchange ideas? Do you not appreciate the quality of discourse available on Bernie's blog as opposed to the racist, idiotic, and grammatically offensive Morning Call Topix? I do not agree with all of Bernie's posts or all the posts I read when I am on this site, but Lehigh Valley Ramblings is local democracy on the web.<br />Anon 6:40Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54058759526244073262009-06-11T01:24:50.884-04:002009-06-11T01:24:50.884-04:00Charles Dertinger is very obnoxious and insufferab...Charles Dertinger is very obnoxious and insufferable oaf. He thinks he is God's gift to Democrats. After running a million times he finally won. Talk to him and you find out that this guy thinks he is the smartest and greatest political mind ever.<br />He is the best, just ask him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-30702906669011203492009-06-11T00:08:16.831-04:002009-06-11T00:08:16.831-04:00To the person not willing to use his or her name. ...To the person not willing to use his or her name. Why is that?<br /><br />I did look at those slots and more times than not over the last 30 years they have been held by Democrats.<br /><br />There are few places in this county that a Democrat will not run as a favorite? <br /><br />Surely there had to be some lawyer or young person willing to brave the waters and start building for the future.<br /><br />By the way I really don't understand why people who express his or her opinion do no have the conviction in that opinion to put his hor name to itDonaldhttp://viewbeyondbethlehem.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-40720895233028480302009-06-10T23:33:26.809-04:002009-06-10T23:33:26.809-04:00With respect to the numerous personal attacks comi...With respect to the numerous personal attacks coming from Anon 7:56, everyone knows all about my past. I have hid nothing from anyone. But these attacks always come anyway whenever the Long Dems are criticized. <br /><br />Shall I go into Dertinger's personal life? I can start with his brother. You wanna' dance? I generally stay away from people's personal lives. It would be in your best interests to do so as well.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-20330379663684681622009-06-10T23:24:31.669-04:002009-06-10T23:24:31.669-04:00"People are more interested in Sarah Palin...<em>"People are more interested in Sarah Palin's clothes than in her policy positions."</em><br /><br />The subject of this post is no idle gossip. It's pretty important to me and other new Dems. We adviocate more transparency, while backroomers like Joe Long and Charles Dertinger prefer closed doors. I advocate open government and have long maintained that the way Northampton Dems select their candidates leads to officials who step all over the Sunshine Act.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-3312070971633058882009-06-10T20:51:29.148-04:002009-06-10T20:51:29.148-04:00The Dertinger is nasty and uncouth, but his politi...The Dertinger is nasty and uncouth, but his political manner is not unlike Obama and Rahm Emanuel and the change crowd that everybody craved. A recent post about "new" Democrats was backwards. Dertinger is a perfect example of exactly the new Democrat we "changed" to in November. Stoffa and the like are old school and very out of fashion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-65532050014161249542009-06-10T20:09:55.867-04:002009-06-10T20:09:55.867-04:00To Donald,
Look at those slots and ask yourself i...To Donald,<br /><br />Look at those slots and ask yourself if they were competitive slots for a democrat to run in. <br /><br />When people are recruiting candidates on both sides they have to be honest with the candidates. You don't discourage people from running but if they are going to have an extremely hard battle you need to let them know. Its not easy to sell someone on running a campaign as a democrat (which is a substantive personal effort and opens your life to full scrutiny) against an incumbent in a district that is heavily republican or vice versa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-79576323531222613492009-06-10T19:59:08.240-04:002009-06-10T19:59:08.240-04:00This year before the primary I noticed that Dem sl...This year before the primary I noticed that Dem slots for boro and twp offices there many without a name on the ballot and there was often Republican, who will now get a free ride in November. It is these offices that a party builds it's bench strength. Is it not the chairman's role to find people to run for these offices?<br /><br />I have been out of the loop within the party for awhile and maybe things have changed but I don't think so. If for no other reason the county chair is a failure and perhaps another one should be found.Donaldhttp://viewbeyondbethlehem.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-49016298751224483202009-06-10T19:56:33.506-04:002009-06-10T19:56:33.506-04:00Charles Dertinger is an honorable family man. By ...Charles Dertinger is an honorable family man. By all accounts he is a good Son, Brother, Father and Husband. Boonie is none of these things. Boonie's wife kicked him to the curb when his children were still small.<br /><br />Charles Dertinger is an incorruptible public official. Unlike Boonie, who once sold out his client for $60. Boonie then forged his client's name and settled the legal case without his client's knowledge<br /><br />Charles is honest. Unlike Boonie, who lost his license to practice law because he lied to his superiors at the United States Justice Department.<br /><br />Charles has no vices at least none that are out of control. Unlike Boonie who is an admitted drunk and who brags about having an extensive porn collection.<br /><br />Most importantly, Boonie hangs out with Rong Angle who has been arrested for shop lifting and fleeing and eluding the police.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-77038344188995914822009-06-10T18:55:01.329-04:002009-06-10T18:55:01.329-04:00Do you want to know why the tone in politics is so...Do you want to know why the tone in politics is so bad right now, blog post like this. Politics at all levels have turned into national enquirer postings. I swear this reads like your reporting on an Oscar eve dinner where two actor ex's run into each other. <br /><br />There can be a debate over whether or not the Northampton Democratic Party did the right thing in the last election. Those debates are best held during committee meetings. <br /><br />However, now we get people posturing for Bernie's blog. We've seen politics denigrate into a pissing contest on the national level over the past 8 years and the reporting of gossip instead of policy debates is the biggest cause. Should not be surprised it is there now on a local level.<br /><br />People are more interested in Sarah Palin's clothes than in her policy positions. People are more interested in the President's date night than what is in the health care reform bill.<br /><br />I'd criticize Bernie, but the public eats this crap up so the public is more at fault than Bernie or the Politicians involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-48554093846955234782009-06-10T18:40:23.835-04:002009-06-10T18:40:23.835-04:00Dertinger didn't lecture. He yelled, pontifica...Dertinger didn't lecture. He yelled, pontificated, huffed, puffed, and made an ass of himself. I haven't attended a NorCo Council meeting in a few years, and the newspaper accounts just don't capture how divisive, arrogant, and blatantly mean this guy is.<br /><br />He was preceded by Fadia Halma who proved beyond a doubt that she is no longer the wide-eyed Democratic idealist she once was. Now that she works for T.J. Rooney, she's at best a party hack. A terrible transformation.<br /><br />Dertinger was followed by Joe Long who was as loud, blustery, and arrogant as Charles, minus Charles' good grammar, weird New York accent, and crass all American flag outfit. He looked like he'd just come from a rodeo. Charles!<br /><br />Relatively new Dem City Chair Jim Schlener took responsibility for not informing all the Bethlehem candidates what "perks" T.J. offers, but when Fadia explained the perks system, she had to admit, when asked several times, that the rules are not in writing and they can change at T.J.'s whim at any time. In other words, there are no rules.<br /><br />I think any love some local Dems had for Joe Long is long gone or waning, and those of us who didn't know the full extent of the wrath, pettiness, and unmitigated power lust of Charles Dertinger, know it now. And we are going to talk, and blog, and make calls, and send emails, and do whatever it takes, legally and democratically, to put an end to the political career of Charles! Dertinger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com