tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post6172328629265972394..comments2024-03-28T17:07:56.753-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: LV Tea Party Commends Norco on No-Tax-Hike Budget, Gracedale SaleBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-8603326076449266092010-11-22T19:19:06.333-05:002010-11-22T19:19:06.333-05:00Who coined "Tea Party" for your club?
9/...Who coined "Tea Party" for your club?<br />9/12 is Glen Becks Tea Party<br />the original leader of the TeaParty speaks out against the "new" Tea Party<br />Tea Party was coined on the stock exchange floor by Rick Santelli<br />corporation highjacked<br />now end of debateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-20754267248702878472010-11-22T19:15:56.188-05:002010-11-22T19:15:56.188-05:00Meeting = Klonvocation
Nader = Whack
Tea Party =...Meeting = Klonvocation<br />Nader = Whack<br />Tea Party = co-opted<br />I attended 3 Berks County Patriot Meetings and was thoroughly disgusted by the leaders speeches and the guest speakers<br />end of debateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-34047607157352453962010-11-22T06:09:41.688-05:002010-11-22T06:09:41.688-05:00Funny, I haven't seen you at a meeting (nobody...Funny, I haven't seen you at a meeting (nobody has written "anon" on a name tag yet!). Sorry to see you have this impression of us.<br /><br />What can we do to correct it? What are these ideas that are the ideas of corporations? I've read Nader's article meant to challenge the Tea Party -- the accusations of being corporate tools seemed to be the most lame IMHO.Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419749813954782484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-52265942947355785182010-11-21T22:18:32.485-05:002010-11-21T22:18:32.485-05:00Let's see... a wager with an anonymous poster ...Let's see... a wager with an anonymous poster on an ill defined bet with an open-ended time frame?<br /><br />First everybody thinks we're a 3rd party, then we're just spoilers supporting independents, radicals with unrealistic expectations, now we're Republican lackeys. <br /><br />So really... what's up, what's your beef? Upset about people that want limited government living within its means?<br /><br />Anyway, you speak of falling "in line with the DC mainstream"... how does that jive with going to county council, city meetings, & school board meetings? We'd like to see financial responsibility at all levels of government. You are aware of the billion dollar local debt, right?Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419749813954782484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-67103691765989619352010-11-21T19:38:29.884-05:002010-11-21T19:38:29.884-05:00Donna
1 month salary
is the wager
the conditions...Donna <br />1 month salary <br />is the wager<br />the conditions<br />the "Tea Party"<br />falls in line with the<br />DC mainstream<br />wanna bet<br />thats about $4700 for meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-84394130716999205922010-11-21T10:18:04.913-05:002010-11-21T10:18:04.913-05:00Anon 8:23, based on both election results and ongo...Anon 8:23, based on both election results and ongoing communication with elected officials at all levels, a LOT of people care what the "tea party thinks." <br /><br />Of course, you seem to assume that the tea party is a single monolithic entity, espousing a single position.<br /><br />While you'll find a lot of similarity between positions taken by individual grassroots tea party groups across the nation, don't make the mistake of lumping us all together. We don't march to a single drummer - although we DO all support constitutionally limited government.<br /><br />For the anonymous posters in the room who aren't very brave OR smart, that means government which carries out only the duties enumerated by the constitution - or whatever governing document applies, depending on the level of government.<br /><br />The public - which identifies itself far more with the values and principles of the tea party movement than it does with the "San Francisco values" of the Pelosi-Reid crowd - will see a level of consistency from the tea party movement that it's unaccustomed to seeing in the majority of its elected officials.<br /><br />To wit: smaller government focused on carrying out the duties enumerated by the governing documents of that level of government; lower government spending and subsequently, lower taxes; greater transparency in what government is doing, at all levels; greater accountability for all elected officials - if they<br />don't do what they promised, they're gone; less unwarranted government intrusion into our lives and more personal liberty, as guaranteed by the Constitution.<br /><br />It's not hard to believe that most Americans agree with those positions - after all, who, other than Rosie O'Donnell and Keith Olberman would admit to supporting bigger and more intrusive government, higher government spending (i.e., greater debt), higher taxes (OK, they'll admit that one, but only on evil RICH people, got it?); less transparency and accountability (which means more sneaky, secret back room deals - they'll DO that, but won't admit it); and more government instrusion into our lives and bodies (parents, don't you DARE buy a Happy Meal for your children, and by the way, stand by quietly while a 40 year old man gropes your three year old son's "junk" at the airport because he's likely to be a terrorist.)<br /><br />Anon. 10:40, there's something about YOU I just don't trust...can't put my finger on it, but I have a gut feeling you're up to no good....oh, WAIT, it's because you're too pathetic to sign your name when you attack a decent person you probably don't even know. <br /><br />Bernie, thanks for sticking up for Mat Benol, who most assuredly IS up to something - and it's ALL good.Donna Baver Rovitonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-27839925533567239412010-11-21T10:17:59.319-05:002010-11-21T10:17:59.319-05:00Anon 8:23, based on both election results and ongo...Anon 8:23, based on both election results and ongoing communication with elected officials at all levels, a LOT of people care what the "tea party thinks." <br /><br />Of course, you seem to assume that the tea party is a single monolithic entity, espousing a single position.<br /><br />While you'll find a lot of similarity between positions taken by individual grassroots tea party groups across the nation, don't make the mistake of lumping us all together. We don't march to a single drummer - although we DO all support constitutionally limited government.<br /><br />For the anonymous posters in the room who aren't very brave OR smart, that means government which carries out only the duties enumerated by the constitution - or whatever governing document applies, depending on the level of government.<br /><br />The public - which identifies itself far more with the values and principles of the tea party movement than it does with the "San Francisco values" of the Pelosi-Reid crowd - will see a level of consistency from the tea party movement that it's unaccustomed to seeing in the majority of its elected officials.<br /><br />To wit: smaller government focused on carrying out the duties enumerated by the governing documents of that level of government; lower government spending and subsequently, lower taxes; greater transparency in what government is doing, at all levels; greater accountability for all elected officials - if they<br />don't do what they promised, they're gone; less unwarranted government intrusion into our lives and more personal liberty, as guaranteed by the Constitution.<br /><br />It's not hard to believe that most Americans agree with those positions - after all, who, other than Rosie O'Donnell and Keith Olberman would admit to supporting bigger and more intrusive government, higher government spending (i.e., greater debt), higher taxes (OK, they'll admit that one, but only on evil RICH people, got it?); less transparency and accountability (which means more sneaky, secret back room deals - they'll DO that, but won't admit it); and more government instrusion into our lives and bodies (parents, don't you DARE buy a Happy Meal for your children, and by the way, stand by quietly while a 40 year old man gropes your three year old son's "junk" at the airport because he's likely to be a terrorist.)<br /><br />Anon. 10:40, there's something about YOU I just don't trust...can't put my finger on it, but I have a gut feeling you're up to no good....oh, WAIT, it's because you're too pathetic to sign your name when you attack a decent person you probably don't even know. <br /><br />Bernie, thanks for sticking up for Mat Benol, who most assuredly IS up to something - and it's ALL good.Donna Baver Rovitonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-29280264648047301062010-11-19T07:20:48.220-05:002010-11-19T07:20:48.220-05:00Lets continue to cut.. how about the LVPC, LVEDC, ...Lets continue to cut.. how about the LVPC, LVEDC, Discover Lehigh Valley and on and on? Make these functions of County Government using EXISTING county staff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-59512530308820137592010-11-19T00:59:33.417-05:002010-11-19T00:59:33.417-05:00Anon 12:39, you make excellent points and for the ...Anon 12:39, you make excellent points and for the most part are right. problem is the Administration and County Council have the ear of the media.<br /><br />Remember that the Press wants the place to be sold because a deal ha been cut to use some of the money to start a Public Health Department.<br /><br />I hope the Tea party fights that as much as they have fought Gracedale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-3853124204070858212010-11-19T00:39:36.873-05:002010-11-19T00:39:36.873-05:00The truth of the matter is.....Northampton County ...The truth of the matter is.....Northampton County is good at fudging numbers. No one has done their "real Homework" on Gracedale and what it means to the community. Northampton County has repeatedly (year after year) taken millions of dollars from the Retirement Account to offset their employees retirement costs and used those funds to delay tax increases year after year. Tens of millions of dollars were diverted from the "pension fund" and used to offset County expenses. Now because of a poor economic climate and extremely poor investments which resulted in losses for the Retirement Account, the County must make up those losses(BY LAW) and repay some of those dollars to the pension fund.<br />More than half those dollars (6million) that the county needs for Gracedale is because they had their fingers in the cookie jar and now it caught up with them. Instead of admitting what they did, it is easier to point the finger at the union and blame soneone else. <br />The truth is, Northampton County will inherit almost 5 million dollars of liabilities because they sell Gracedale and will have no possible way to offset those costs. After the sale of Gracedale, No. Co. must pay into the reitrement account, approximately 5 million dollars a year. The cost for the medical benefits and the make up losses for the retiree will not change.<br />Watch the noses of the administration as they grow after telling lie after lie. <br />Selling Gracedale is a quick fix to offset tax increases. After you spend that money we have the same obligations and committments and as taxpayers will be hit with the largest tax increase ever. Please, please, just tell the public the truth now. Tax increases are coming whether we sell the facility or keep it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-79965021361050710762010-11-19T00:07:20.470-05:002010-11-19T00:07:20.470-05:00Balanced Budget?
No layoffs?
800 Layoffs at Graced...Balanced Budget?<br />No layoffs?<br />800 Layoffs at Gracedale<br />Fuzzy MathAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-50188106399124081062010-11-18T23:29:37.237-05:002010-11-18T23:29:37.237-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-82974626431431746372010-11-18T23:25:31.586-05:002010-11-18T23:25:31.586-05:00"I can't quite put my finger on it, but I...<em>"I can't quite put my finger on it, but I just get a gut feeling that he's up to something and it's not good."</em><br /><br />So you slime him in an anonymous attack? I would think that people like Mat Benol, who is a decent and honorable man, would be upsetting to someone like you.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-27636492001729794512010-11-18T23:23:47.118-05:002010-11-18T23:23:47.118-05:00""This crowd has inflated union contract...<em>""This crowd has inflated union contracts out of control with 8-9% annual increases being common."</em><br /><br />Cuckoo.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-20184305791950991322010-11-18T22:40:41.211-05:002010-11-18T22:40:41.211-05:00There's something I just don't trust about...There's something I just don't trust about that Mat Benol.<br /><br />I can't quite put my finger on it, but I just get a gut feeling that he's up to something and it's not good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-18865100742683861902010-11-18T21:46:52.565-05:002010-11-18T21:46:52.565-05:00"This crowd has inflated union contracts out ..."This crowd has inflated union contracts out of control with 8-9% annual increases being common."<br /><br />Can you show me those increases? I would love to see them!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-27976202091074163042010-11-18T20:34:18.433-05:002010-11-18T20:34:18.433-05:00Okay, so when will they ask County Council to quit...Okay, so when will they ask County Council to quit kissing the Stoffa Administration's ass and end the huge over budget money spent in the rest of Human Services and General Government. What about Stoffa's pal, the assistant Director of Administration, people still don't know what the guy does.<br /><br />This crowd has inflated union contracts out of control with 8-9% annual increases being common. They are spending millions of County dollars they don't have to, where the Hell is Angle. Why aren't you pushing this Tea Party, not as sexy as Gracedale?<br /><br />Let's see if the Council is wiling to do more than sell Gracedale to curry favor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-21124440883956239092010-11-18T20:23:01.903-05:002010-11-18T20:23:01.903-05:00Who cares what the Tea Party thinks?Who cares what the Tea Party thinks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com