tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post5550162819445168622..comments2024-03-28T19:03:28.661-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: Gracedale Referendum Tally Now at 21,589 Raw SignaturesBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger114125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-20054016236744716112011-01-17T09:04:29.965-05:002011-01-17T09:04:29.965-05:00"So cite the specific regulation. The study &...<em>"So cite the specific regulation. The study "claims" that the County will get less but does not provide the specific law."</em><br /><br />The law and regulations are cited. Read the study. <br /><br />As for the slam at the study and law firm, that would figure. It is just part of a long list of things and people who are wrong. You viciously attack the people and their motives. <br /><br />Nobody has suggested, for even a moment, "dumping" the residents. This is hysteria from unhinged people.<br /><br />I can have a logical discussion with some people, even those who oppose Gracedale's sale. People of good will can have different views. But the outright hate and hostility pouring from you sickos is amazing. <br /><br />I am closing comments here. 113 comments is enough. You've had an opportunity to make a case here, but chose instead to smear everyone. What you don't realize is that, in the process, you've smeared yourselves.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-35747551637174094212011-01-17T05:01:47.761-05:002011-01-17T05:01:47.761-05:00We the taxpayers are paying 225 Dollars an hour fo...We the taxpayers are paying 225 Dollars an hour for a person from the firm to drive to the town meetings, one and half hours out one and half hours back , he gave us a brake no charge for milage, plus meals. the second, thrid and fourth, no charge,but cost plus. 300,000 dollars to a firm for the sale, but councel does not know if they have the votes to sell it.Who was in leadership when this was done? Good job looking after the taxpayers money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-53302554745536360452011-01-17T05:01:43.953-05:002011-01-17T05:01:43.953-05:00We the taxpayers are paying 225 Dollars an hour fo...We the taxpayers are paying 225 Dollars an hour for a person from the firm to drive to the town meetings, one and half hours out one and half hours back , he gave us a brake no charge for milage, plus meals. the second, thrid and fourth, no charge,but cost plus. 300,000 dollars to a firm for the sale, but councel does not know if they have the votes to sell it.Who was in leadership when this was done? Good job looking after the taxpayers money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-2645631149655533792011-01-17T03:49:55.380-05:002011-01-17T03:49:55.380-05:00So cite the specific regulation. The study "c...So cite the specific regulation. The study "claims" that the County will get less but does not provide the specific law.<br /><br />It was brought up at one of the Courtroom one meetings by a former County Councilman, but the question was ignored.<br /><br />I understand that the "exhaustive" study of 45 days that was done by a company charging $18,000 as opposed to the companies that wanted at least $40-50,000 for a "real" study is your "reality" crutch. Also we are aware that even this "paid for" company first suggested private management but was told by the Administration to take that off the table as a serious option. That is a fact some members of the "elite" oversight committee have admitted to but fear for their jobs if they go public.<br /><br />Many falsehoods and outright lies by those wishing to dump the facility.<br /><br />Sadly, if they were just honest and said, "look we want the money for some other things and this is a great way to slash employee's", at least they would be respected for their honesty. It is this bullshit about dumping the residents for their own good that is so galling. They would destroy this facility in order to save it. As stated before these pol's don't give a shit about Northampton County's elderly.<br /><br />Saddest chapter in the long history of Northampton county.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-76001803828907251912011-01-17T03:16:10.068-05:002011-01-17T03:16:10.068-05:00I think I will check it out again,all I have to do...I think I will check it out again,all I have to do is go to the Saylorsburg Post Office and ask.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-39357279211671543032011-01-17T03:04:01.428-05:002011-01-17T03:04:01.428-05:00"Mr. O'Hare please cite the specific regu...<em>"Mr. O'Hare please cite the specific regulation that proves the private facility gets more money for providing the same service."</em><br /><br />Section 3 of the study you deride spent 18 pages talking about that, providing the specifics. You could have questioned any of the experts when they were here on multiple occasions. But you instead wait and make an anonymous claim on a blog. Once again, you are wrong. Read the study. It's posted on the county web page.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-28493933226833791632011-01-17T02:50:12.217-05:002011-01-17T02:50:12.217-05:00" some people in Northampton County have a Sa...<em>" some people in Northampton County have a Saylorsburg mailling address"</em><br /><br />Wrong. Nobody in NC has a Saylorsburg mailing address or a P-burg mailing address. Remember, I search titles. This is more disinformation.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-87419861115475618782011-01-17T02:47:34.121-05:002011-01-17T02:47:34.121-05:00What is CC? You're using the same abbreviation...What is CC? You're using the same abbreviation used by the Fake Rev over at his hate blog.<br /><br />County Council spent $18k for an exhaustive study of Gracedale, primarily aimed at seeing if it could be salvaged. It included an appraisal, and is one of the first places where the variance in reimbursements was mentioned. A very small part included a survey of county officials. It is disingenuous to suggest that was the purpose. <br /><br />County Council has hired a law firm to negotiate a sale that will approximate $30MM. Given that sale price and the complexities involved, $300k is a bargain. <br /><br />Council will NOT vote to sale Gracedale unless 5 members are assured that provisions are made for the same or higher standards of care, and that indigents will be accepted.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-6314933472435687822011-01-17T02:45:30.684-05:002011-01-17T02:45:30.684-05:00In case you do not know some people in Northampton...In case you do not know some people in Northampton County have a Saylorsburg mailling address, print what looks good for you not the truth.RABBITnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-6559753295133105762011-01-17T02:44:15.281-05:002011-01-17T02:44:15.281-05:00Mr. O'Hare please cite the specific regulation...Mr. O'Hare please cite the specific regulation that proves the private facility gets more money for providing the same service. Please ask Mr. Marcus or Mr. Stoffa or the "firm" they hired that makes this claim to cite the specific regulation. They state it as fact but provided no true state regulation, since none exists.<br /><br />Could you please post that information on your blog. Or have the County post it on their web site.<br /><br />The so-called fact has never been proven, only stated by the "paid consultant", hired to make the case to dump Gracedale.<br /><br />Of course you claim the residents, families and management experts we consulted are all to stupid to understand Mr. Stoffa's "cultural" concerns. The almighty government claiming it knows whats best for us. I thought the baggers fought that sort of thing. I guess they just hate over-reaching governemnt when African-Ameircans are President.<br /><br />So we have Stoffa and Angle claiming to know whats best for us. I think we will take our chances with some more knowledgeable and honorable sources.<br /><br />You sound more and more desperate O'Hare.<br /><br />The Peace of God be with you, as it currently is notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-22822057485595697032011-01-17T02:24:49.974-05:002011-01-17T02:24:49.974-05:00CC spent 18,000 dollars for a servey to have the p...CC spent 18,000 dollars for a servey to have the people call CC Members to see how there are going to vote. CC spent up to 300,000 dollars plus to a law firm to sell Gracedale, But never voted to sell it. Big hurry why, about six months back we will be here till two am. to vote, guess what no vote. They are in a big hurry for what reason? the outfit from the middle east has one Dalphin County, when asked adout other holdings they refused to answer. AGAIN COUNCIL NEVER VOTED TO SELL GRACSDALE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-70968596908682570472011-01-17T02:05:24.871-05:002011-01-17T02:05:24.871-05:00Isn't this amazing? Everyone is a crook but yo...Isn't this amazing? Everyone is a crook but you. You folks don't hold up too well when I respond to your hate with facts. The UNREBUTTED truth is that Medicare/medicaid reimbursements are lower for publicly held b=nursing homes than for private. It was a $4.6 MM difference last year. That alone is a reason to sell. <br /><br />More than half of the rooms at Gracedale are 4 to a room. That;s barbaric, and you have not only failed to rebut it, but try to defend it. This is another reason why it must sell. As John Stoffa has stated, the problem is cultural. You don't even recognize the problem. <br /><br />You've just made another unsubstantiated claim of "dirty dealing," and accuse me of venom for pointing out that your ckaims are as real as the Fake Rev's ordination papers. .Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54128538757777621132011-01-17T01:18:10.797-05:002011-01-17T01:18:10.797-05:00The MA argument is in fact a ruse. It was brought...The MA argument is in fact a ruse. It was brought up and ignored. Just as the issue with the real ability of a County to control something it sells. Not just writing it in a contract but how to enforce it in the real world.<br /><br />When issues have been raised your hero Mr. Angle shouted people down who want to discuss the real issues.<br /><br />Frankly, Mr. O'Hare you have provided the most venom and hate on this topic. You have not only continued to carry water for those who want to dump Gracedale for a fast buck, but the lies of a better life.<br /><br />I think that's what the Indians were told when they were moved west of the Mississippi, and the Jews when forced to relocation camps. You can make fun of all this but at the end of the day, no one trusts this County Council or this Executive. We know the motives for the sale and it not the well being of the residents.<br /><br />Mr. Marcus doesn't know anything about Gracedale, he was in Economic Development and a political hire by Stoffa. He has rarely been seen on the floors out there. His opinion is just that an opinion. He is merely a mouthpiece for Angle and Stoffa.<br /><br />You are getting very angry and desperate. You and the baggers never expected the families to achieve this. You and the Stoffa/Angle machine have been damning and disparaging families and residents for months. You will now concentrate on stopping the petitions from being counted.<br /><br />The people now see the elected people for the cold hearted folks they are. In the face of overwhelming support by the citizens of the County they are determined to push this dirty deal through by hook or by crook.<br /><br />By the way, why not tell which of the offers came from the firm that was in personal contact with Ron Angle.<br /><br />Dirty dealing all around.<br /><br />Proud Resident named John, now join the Stoffa backroom team and find my name. I will be awaiting a reassessment on my property or some other retaliation by this gang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-68165467164030670632011-01-17T00:51:34.687-05:002011-01-17T00:51:34.687-05:00Again, a vote will be decided only by those with a...Again, a vote will be decided only by those with a mission.bilcnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-5891803682073905752011-01-17T00:48:42.854-05:002011-01-17T00:48:42.854-05:00Not signatures...petitions presented by union memb...Not signatures...petitions presented by union members. All apparently trying to save their jobs. Two actually said they provide more personal care. I said they should, there are 3 employees for every patient!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-59720888799375644002011-01-17T00:40:12.975-05:002011-01-17T00:40:12.975-05:00Out of 900 signatures only 3 were from union membe...Out of 900 signatures only 3 were from union members.lets get a vote and see what the people want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-77565863787646227362011-01-17T00:38:21.788-05:002011-01-17T00:38:21.788-05:00Out of 900 signatures only 3 were from union membe...Out of 900 signatures only 3 were from union members.lets get a vote and see what the people want.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-13615609507711940492011-01-17T00:26:24.011-05:002011-01-17T00:26:24.011-05:00If this actually makes it to a vote, the only peop...If this actually makes it to a vote, the only people who will vote are those with a mission. Any rational person can see the only logical option is a sale. From my experience, 90% of the petitions were by union members. This tells me something. Plus 75% of other counties have privatized their homes for the same reasons suggested here and have been quite successful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54756250902827407222011-01-17T00:22:24.195-05:002011-01-17T00:22:24.195-05:00The Fake Rev not only reads my blog, but was addre...The Fake Rev not only reads my blog, but was addressing many of my points when he spoke to ET Reporter Sarah Cassi. He is the author of the Gracedale hate blog and many of the hateful comments here are from him. <br /><br />Are you suggesting there was booze in my thermos and that I had DTs? Sorry to disappoint you. I have something called essential tremor, a harmless medical condition that requires no treatment. <br /><br /><em>"What power do you have to remove anyone. You keep saying I will have you removed"</em><br /><br />I have the power of an ordinary citizen. Had I called the Sheriff, he would see you disrupting a meeting and would remove you on his own volition. But that does not happen unless someone makes him aware.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54072423659854237242011-01-17T00:18:17.705-05:002011-01-17T00:18:17.705-05:00What power do you have to remove anyone. You keep ...What power do you have to remove anyone. You keep saying I will have you removed. You have two interchanable parts take time to change you might make better choises of words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-51164914342446047392011-01-17T00:12:22.283-05:002011-01-17T00:12:22.283-05:00The rev. does not read your blog nor does post her...The rev. does not read your blog nor does post here. Iif you cant understand that tough. BO at THURSDAYS meeting why were your hands shacking when you tried to drink from your small bottle, the shaking stoped after you got your drink WHY.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-6283878620367189062011-01-17T00:10:15.998-05:002011-01-17T00:10:15.998-05:00You were disrupting a public meeting, and I would ...You were disrupting a public meeting, and I would have you removed if you had continued. You were interfering with the rights of others and were obstructing a government meeting.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-34686008088793366092011-01-17T00:07:03.586-05:002011-01-17T00:07:03.586-05:00What does that have todo with Mr. Marcus talking t...What does that have todo with Mr. Marcus talking to people in the hall. YOU SAID YOU WOULD HAVE THEM REMOVED YOU WOULD HAVE THEM REMOVED.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-5217048777455846572011-01-17T00:05:05.844-05:002011-01-17T00:05:05.844-05:00"Why did voter reg, give us the forms if weco...<em>"Why did voter reg, give us the forms if wecould not do it?"</em><br /><br />The voter registrar did not give you forms to have them sit unattended in bars with no circulator present.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-7800765990018183252011-01-17T00:03:54.330-05:002011-01-17T00:03:54.330-05:00"You mean like forging a Will?"
No, but...<em>"You mean like forging a Will?"</em><br /><br />No, but you like to make vicious personal attacks that have no foundation in fact, and without signing your name, Fake Rev.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.com