tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post2598503764636416765..comments2024-03-18T21:53:54.073-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: Lehigh County Voters Say No to ExtremismBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-2230165723804146122013-11-07T17:41:52.481-05:002013-11-07T17:41:52.481-05:00Both Ott and Callahan's campaign's were dr...Both Ott and Callahan's campaign's were driven by ego. Both were seriously flawed candidates for a county race. They both had horrible records of broken promises and arrogance.<br /><br />Unfortunately, that is what happens when you push personality and ideologically based candidacies, instead of what is the most logical or needed choice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-12178998388718127502013-11-06T21:52:35.836-05:002013-11-06T21:52:35.836-05:00Following 5:58's logic Cunningham beat Ervin 1...Following 5:58's logic Cunningham beat Ervin 10767 to 5360 in Allentown in 2005. That's 3645 votes worse Cunningham did against Ott in 2009 and Ott still couldn't win. I'm not defending Pawlowski or Fleck but there might be greater factors here at work. And at the end of the day, Ott's ego has allowed for the only 2 democrats ever to be elected County Executive in Lehigh County.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-40756874297717764162013-11-06T21:47:22.075-05:002013-11-06T21:47:22.075-05:00Schware is a teabag hack.Schware is a teabag hack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-78889800416959080022013-11-06T20:17:39.820-05:002013-11-06T20:17:39.820-05:00Nothing's better than spotting Scott Ott 1200 ...Nothing's better than spotting Scott Ott 1200 votes in Allentown while tanking for your gubernatorial candidate. You're right, O'Hare, Fleck's a fucking genius.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-26597987257547239432013-11-06T18:58:29.318-05:002013-11-06T18:58:29.318-05:00115 votes is not handily 115 votes is not handily Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-63567662305526234792013-11-06T18:51:17.056-05:002013-11-06T18:51:17.056-05:00schware won re-election handily schware won re-election handily mikey Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54618875770592922232013-11-06T18:35:59.097-05:002013-11-06T18:35:59.097-05:00you can only re-use a tea bag a few times than its...you can only re-use a tea bag a few times than its time to throw it away. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-26026516980813352932013-11-06T18:35:54.663-05:002013-11-06T18:35:54.663-05:00I'm unsure how much of a factor Barrett was. W...I'm unsure how much of a factor Barrett was. Where Barrett was strong Muller under preformed, and where Muller was strong Barrett underperformed Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-10994273755206916272013-11-06T18:20:31.022-05:002013-11-06T18:20:31.022-05:00Keep telling yourself that. I'll be reviewing ...Keep telling yourself that. I'll be reviewing the numbers soon. I don't think Muller would have won without Fleck, and i say this as someone who has tormented the Fleckster over the years. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-21472671715787128482013-11-06T17:58:12.406-05:002013-11-06T17:58:12.406-05:00Muller only received 62.5% of the vote in Allentow...Muller only received 62.5% of the vote in Allentown; Cunningham received 67.5% of the vote there in 2009, and that was with more overall voters.<br /><br />Cunningham/Ott in Allentown was 7122 to 3427<br /><br />Muller/Ott in Allentown was 5895 to 3518<br /><br />Ott's number of votes versus 2009 increased slightly (+91), Muller's dropped significantly (-1227!!!). There's no positive way you can spin it.<br /><br />With these Allentown results, all Ott had to do was perform the same elsewhere as he did in 2009 and he would have won by several hundred votes.<br /><br />In Ott's favor, 37.5% of the vote in a city that couldn't even nominate a Republican mayoral candidate is a strong showing. Fleck fucked up bad in Allentown and was saved by moderate Republicans who rejected Ott in far greater numbers than they did in 2009.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-47664408813491010302013-11-06T17:50:17.177-05:002013-11-06T17:50:17.177-05:00Anon 5:06
Woodman and Ott put together a group 2 ...Anon 5:06<br /><br />Woodman and Ott put together a group 2 years ago to run for Commissioner and their mailers proclaimed they were "the new Republican Party in Lehigh County". For two straight years the SOLE focus of the Lehigh County Republican Committee under Woodman has been to elect Ott as County Executive so Woodman could use Lehigh County as his high school science fair project. Absolutely nothing else mattered, not registering voters, not running candidates in Allentown, not fielding candidates for school boards - Nothing mattered other than how it would relate to Ott's run for County Executive. Everything, and I mean everything, was viewed through that lens. There was no other focus - none. This has been the Wayne and Scott show for two years and the elected State Committee people sat on their asses and watched it happen and didn't say a word. They are either useless or cowards or both. Last night we saw the net result of that strategy and the "new" Republican Party.<br /><br />Heckava job Woody. Heckava job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-23392146663208466732013-11-06T17:06:50.032-05:002013-11-06T17:06:50.032-05:00Muller won Allentown 5895 to 3518. Ott only won 1...Muller won Allentown 5895 to 3518. Ott only won 1 west Allentown precinct--6 votes to 1. Ott also lost 6 out of 8 South Whitehall polls. That's not a winning formula. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-78273885626019572162013-11-06T16:03:18.206-05:002013-11-06T16:03:18.206-05:00Bar couldn't get a Mormon elected in Salt Lake...Bar couldn't get a Mormon elected in Salt Lake City.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-38016049754422532162013-11-06T14:57:26.506-05:002013-11-06T14:57:26.506-05:00Pawlowski's performance was weak. Allentown h...Pawlowski's performance was weak. Allentown had little influence on the election's outcome. Rs in the suburbs decided the exec race. Pawlowski's gubernatorial campaign should be a regular vo-tech project with Fleck regularly slicing his hands on the band saw. You hire an amateur; you get amateur results.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-69631052873123607772013-11-06T14:39:38.601-05:002013-11-06T14:39:38.601-05:00Spot on 1:33 pm Flecks no professional and Na...Spot on 1:33 pm Flecks no professional and Nagy did even worse. With the money Ed P had he should have gone pro,same for Callahan. Norco had weak ground game thanks to Garvin and in Lehigh thanks to Bar and Martin got the vote for Muller and Ed P. Sorry Ed your numbers stink though against an Independent,not good for attracting big D donors away from Allison S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54989102872671240872013-11-06T13:33:30.279-05:002013-11-06T13:33:30.279-05:00Bye Bye Woodman! Have a nice flight back to LA Bye Bye Woodman! Have a nice flight back to LA Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-31559620054341654872013-11-06T13:33:03.644-05:002013-11-06T13:33:03.644-05:00Bernie,
Fleck's turnout claims in Allentown a...Bernie,<br /><br />Fleck's turnout claims in Allentown are complete nonsense. 1136 fewer votes were cast in the Exec race in Allentown than were cast in 2009. Of that, Muller received 1227 fewer votes than Cunningham did; Ott actually gained 91 votes relative to his 2009 performance.<br /><br />In Bethlehem, Muller gained 87 votes over Cunningham in 2009, but Ott gained 142 votes over his 2009 race.<br /><br />Muller won in Lower Mac (net gain of 721 votes in his favor versus 2009 with 409 additional voters), Sailsbury (net gain of 182 votes with 382 additional voters), South Whitehall (net gain of 375 with 751 additional voters), as well as large net gains in Upper Milford, Upper Saucon, Emmaus, Lowhill, and Whitehall.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-38227060165559824882013-11-06T13:10:34.797-05:002013-11-06T13:10:34.797-05:00A real crass arrogant ass won.
Thank God------the ...A real crass arrogant ass won.<br />Thank God------the alternative was so much worse!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1423057901233760312013-11-06T12:30:59.437-05:002013-11-06T12:30:59.437-05:00Politics is a very strange science.
Lots of surpr...Politics is a very strange science.<br /><br />Lots of surprises. Interesting results to spend hours debating the causes.<br /><br />In the end someone wins and someone loses. And we start the next round again. <br /><br />It's our favorite sport.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-57717186545584691402013-11-06T12:25:49.075-05:002013-11-06T12:25:49.075-05:00Forget Bar Jhonston ---- Fleck won it for Muller. ...Forget Bar Jhonston ---- Fleck won it for Muller. If Johnny Casino was unpopular so was Muller. Both were Donny boy stepsons.<br />Like em or hate em, Fleck is the big winner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-69030471787069831002013-11-06T11:25:19.675-05:002013-11-06T11:25:19.675-05:00So the low turnout was due to D's not thrilled...So the low turnout was due to D's not thrilled with Muller and the R's even less thrilled with Ott. So the turnout came from diehard Tea party fans for Ott and diehard D's and moderate R's for Muller. So while you all were fartin around I stayed home and clipped my toe nails.Off My Rockernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-66746358937902602912013-11-06T11:05:28.375-05:002013-11-06T11:05:28.375-05:00you also have to remember that Ott's reform te...you also have to remember that Ott's reform team passed that real estate tax reassessment through, costing a a lot of people in the suburbs a lot more in RE taxes.<br /><br />rightly or wrongly, i know a bunch of my neighbors whom like myself saw a big RE tax increase stayed home because of itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-82916454891366874922013-11-06T10:35:17.592-05:002013-11-06T10:35:17.592-05:00I'll go with the combination of the Pawlowski ...I'll go with the combination of the Pawlowski Machine getting out higher numbers of voters in the City along with Donovan supporters who were more than likely Democrats as well. I suspect the City turnout percentage was higher than suburbs and it carried Muller and almost carried Barrett. I'm not sure this is an indictment against Ott. I think the powerful and effective Pawlowski Machine got out the D votes while Ott's team did not inspire R an equivalent amount of his base in the suburbs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-87974283963162995572013-11-06T10:33:05.751-05:002013-11-06T10:33:05.751-05:00Ott was defeated by negativism ---- his own.Ott was defeated by negativism ---- his own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-65986624086479835312013-11-06T10:30:12.054-05:002013-11-06T10:30:12.054-05:00Bernie O'Hare said...
Ott was defeated because... Bernie O'Hare said...<br />Ott was defeated because of his own words, which were used against him. There is absolutely nothing wrong with negative campaigns, so long as the negativism concerns issues, record and qualification. It was not a dirty campaign by any stretch. I do consider Ott a mean-spirited person, and his words are evidence. He might claim negativism defeated him. I think he was defeated by his own behavior. <br /><br />9:54 AM<br /><br />Wow, we agree on something! I could not agree with you more!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com