tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post1688477766591934281..comments2024-03-29T00:30:47.101-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: Osborne: Time For Trust in South Whitehall IIBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-29056680179384961572021-04-20T10:52:57.642-04:002021-04-20T10:52:57.642-04:00Ben has submitted to be appointed, along with Tom ...Ben has submitted to be appointed, along with Tom Johns, Mark Luethe, and Dean Browning<br /><br /><br />Tom Johns will be appointed by a 2-2 ties with Keisha Champagnie deciding it as the vacancy board tie breaker....<br /><br />Very interesting vthat Madam Morgan replaced Dave Torrey with Keisha for no other reason but to have a puppet<br /><br />South Whitehall Puppet Show will be Wednesday night and all next week<br /><br />#MorganHasGottaGoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-30821050621673820472021-04-20T09:53:10.940-04:002021-04-20T09:53:10.940-04:00To Anonymous 8:06: interesting to everyone who rea...To Anonymous 8:06: interesting to everyone who reads this blog, Benjamin, you started out with your ill-advised premise of “the tyranny of the majority”, then when that was challenged, you morphed to “let’s save the fish” pseudo-science (wow!), and now you’re curious as to which commissioner championed the massive developments being thrust upon our residents? Really? Answer . . . your president of the board, Ms. Tori Morgan, who sponsored the destructive “Innovative Overlay District” in 2014 that has led to where we are today in absolute contrast to the 2009 Comprehensive Plan adopted in 2009!!<br /><br />BTW, Benjamin, have you submitted your resume for the board vacancy to continue this tragedy for our township? Askin’ for a friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-34212911015017088122021-04-19T08:06:33.719-04:002021-04-19T08:06:33.719-04:00"Warehouses are not truck terminals moron, go..."Warehouses are not truck terminals moron, google the difference internet tough guy"<br /><br />Yes!! An angry hypocrite, perfect. I stand corrected, a warehouse is where trucks bring things to be stored for subsequent distribution by other trucks. A Truck Terminal is where trucks bring things in for more immediate transfer to other trucks for distribution. THANK YOU, so much for demanding clarification of this extremely important distinction. I'm still curious as to which former Commissioner was the puppet for your subdivision.<br /><br />Mr. Internet Tough Guy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-64838023489802771892021-04-16T21:16:06.735-04:002021-04-16T21:16:06.735-04:00Lehigh County wants to spend 8.9 million to rehabi...Lehigh County wants to spend 8.9 million to rehabilitate Wehr's Covered Bridge.<br /><br /><b>Wehr's Dam Covered Timber Bridge Rehabilitation - Carrying Wehr's Mill Road over the Jordan Creek - South Whitehall Township - Lehigh County - $8,899,043</b><br /><br />8.9 million for a wooden bridge that is obsolete, a burden to taxpayers, and serves no legitimate purpose.... sounds alot like the dam? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />(Note: to be fair the covered bridge could be replaced with a concrete structure for half the cost, burn it down and make it modern I say!)Roscoenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-25196444682977948092021-04-16T14:06:28.234-04:002021-04-16T14:06:28.234-04:00Do you know what the natural water course of the J...Do you know what the natural water course of the Jordan creek was? Do you know the township altered the natural flow of the Jordan creek below the dam with those ugly stone squares? Why aren’t you complaining about that? The dam has an historical value of the region. The majority decided to repair the dam. Live with it and stop being a hypocriteChris Peischlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17247522838493859998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-5480919088332020952021-04-15T22:42:00.023-04:002021-04-15T22:42:00.023-04:00The person above admitted losing the "legal&q...The person above admitted losing the "legal" argument after a previous post. It certainly exposes his "fishy" self.<br /><br />Does this individual think that the actions and policies of Morgan, Setton, and Mad Matty are examples of "tyranny of the majority?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-81327490935477447202021-04-15T22:20:48.291-04:002021-04-15T22:20:48.291-04:00"I wonder who was the puppet for the builder ..."I wonder who was the puppet for the builder who built your subdivision? People sell land to developers and they build subdivisions because of high consumer demand for new houses in the location, same as you did. Unless you have never done on-line shopping with home delivery, you are a hypocrite for criticizing truck terminals, they are being built everywhere not just in SWT.<br /><br />April 15, 2021 at 1:09 PM"<br /><br />Warehouses are not truck terminals moron, google the difference internet tough guyFake namenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-49605625589477121382021-04-15T22:18:42.832-04:002021-04-15T22:18:42.832-04:00April 15, 2021 at 9:40 PM, and why are 4 dams stil...April 15, 2021 at 9:40 PM, and why are 4 dams still in existence? Ya'll would think that the wildlands would be targetting other scientific dams and removing them, what was the last dam they removed?<br /><br />The community of those other dams like south whitehall residents who voted want to keep the dam.<br /><br />The removal of Wehr's Covered bridge would be even better from a traffic aspect if it was torn down and replaced with a modern 2 lane concrete bridge! Why is Lehigh County sinking $1,250,000 into Manassas Guth Bridge, a functional obsolete and falling down wood bridge, doesnt make scientific sense right?Roger Muddnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-77509702271740193612021-04-15T21:40:16.810-04:002021-04-15T21:40:16.810-04:00The science behind dam removal is irrefutable.
Bu...The science behind dam removal is irrefutable.<br /><br />But y'all go on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1066100377317942342021-04-15T18:30:23.631-04:002021-04-15T18:30:23.631-04:00Annonymous @April 15, 2021 at 9:18 AM
You ever se...Annonymous @April 15, 2021 at 9:18 AM<br /><br />You ever see the fish alive when the entire riverbed is dried up in the summer months?<br /><br />What fish do you want to save by killing them by removing the dam?<br /><br />you sir really are a Tori Lover<br /><br />#NoMoreTori2021<br />#DrainTheSWTSwamp<br />#MorganHasGottaGo<br />#SaveWehrsDam<br />#ReneeBickelHasGootaGoOscarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-64012766037377104452021-04-15T18:27:41.072-04:002021-04-15T18:27:41.072-04:009:18 AM
Why hasnt the wildlands removed the dam o...9:18 AM<br /><br />Why hasnt the wildlands removed the dam on the Jordan River at Kernsville Road?<br /><br />Why hasnt the wildlands removed the dams for the Cedar Creek in Trexler Park?<br /><br />Why hasnt the wildlands removed the Cementon dam on the Lehigh River?<br /><br />Why hasnt the wildlands removed the Spring Mill Dam at the Spring Creek in Cementon?<br /><br /><br />--- Whitehall, Cementon and the Trexler Trust told the Wildlands to go fuck themselves, that is why. They dont have the politicians through family in their pockets in those communities<br /><br />Mr. Frank Rizzonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-23849912421382322392021-04-15T13:09:44.866-04:002021-04-15T13:09:44.866-04:00"Take a drive around and see the signs for Mo..."Take a drive around and see the signs for Morgan... and puppet Setton are placed<br /><br />Jaindl properties<br />Kay Builders property<br />Abe Atiyeh properties<br />Park view hotel property<br />Warehouses under construction property<br />zator law property<br /><br />Maybe Morgan is the puppet for these land owners"<br /><br />I wonder who was the puppet for the builder who built your subdivision? People sell land to developers and they build subdivisions because of high consumer demand for new houses in the location, same as you did. Unless you have never done on-line shopping with home delivery, you are a hypocrite for criticizing truck terminals, they are being built everywhere not just in SWT. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-79132580750497910012021-04-15T09:18:00.622-04:002021-04-15T09:18:00.622-04:00Put another way, how many fish have to die so that...Put another way, how many fish have to die so that certain "voters" can look at an old dam on rare occasions?<br /><br />This question doesn't involve legal debates, it involves one obviously right answer. Obsolete dams should be removed, the sooner the better. Will there be any fish left by the time the "voters" finally do the right thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-4069517235397630122021-04-15T06:59:06.770-04:002021-04-15T06:59:06.770-04:00Take a drive around and see the signs for Morgan.....Take a drive around and see the signs for Morgan... and puppet Setton are placed<br /><br />Jaindl properties<br />Kay Builders property<br />Abe Atiyeh properties<br />Park view hotel property<br />Warehouses under construction property<br />zator law property<br /><br />Maybe Morgan is the puppet for these land owners<br />Robnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-81050173925440460732021-04-14T22:07:24.855-04:002021-04-14T22:07:24.855-04:00Make South Whitehall Great again Vote out Tori Mor...Make South Whitehall Great again Vote out Tori Morgan and Our Own Sleepy Joe Setton !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-69524768192824439782021-04-14T22:00:58.343-04:002021-04-14T22:00:58.343-04:00You present yet a third perspective, which is an i...You present yet a third perspective, which is an interesting one, and may draw some additional comments. Thank you for your feedback!Brad Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02801529052577879833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-61321241006351534832021-04-14T21:52:58.339-04:002021-04-14T21:52:58.339-04:00You present yet a third perspective, which is an i...You present yet a third perspective, which is an interesting one, and may draw some additional comments. Thank you for your feedback!Brad Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02801529052577879833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-4861282403854676272021-04-14T21:50:47.906-04:002021-04-14T21:50:47.906-04:00Anonymous 11:34 has taken a simple local topic and...Anonymous 11:34 has taken a simple local topic and obscured it with national politics. In his/her twisted logic, the proposed library tax (which failed to gain voter support in a separate referendum that same year) should be enacted anyway because of the "tyranny of the majority"??<br /><br />BTW, how did South Whitehall get a new and renovated library building without the benefit of this tax that was needed so badly to make it happen?? Tori??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-27683233375062600742021-04-14T21:47:42.479-04:002021-04-14T21:47:42.479-04:00You present yet a third perspective, which is an i...You present yet a third perspective, which is an interesting one, and may draw some additional comments. Thank you for your feedback!Brad Osbornehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02801529052577879833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-45890420345081888992021-04-14T20:33:50.498-04:002021-04-14T20:33:50.498-04:00Oh BenOh BenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-6123571580211318092021-04-14T19:28:48.713-04:002021-04-14T19:28:48.713-04:00Apparently, Anonymous 11:34 is not well-versed in ...Apparently, Anonymous 11:34 is not well-versed in the basics of both U.S. Constitutional and PA law. <br /><br />Anonymous 11:34 claims that when voters chose to protect Wehr's Dam via the 2016 referendum, they were demonstrating the centuries-old idea of "tyranny of the majority." In Federalist No. 51, James Madison argues that in order to avoid avoid incidents in which the majority threatened the rights of the minority (i.e. tyranny of the majority), power should be spread out in a system of checks and balances. The tyrannic majority accomplishes its goals at the expense of the minority. Wehr's Dam was a policy decision, and it did not threaten the rights or livelihoods of those that voted against it. <br /><br />Putting aside the asinine claim of "tyranny of the majority", let's take a closer look at how the referendum came to be. Another astute idea the Founding Father's had was to utilize the republican principle...or the creation of a republic where decisions were delegated to a small number of citizens elected by the rest. This is how decisions are made in South Whitehall Township. We have an elected board of five commissioners. <br /><br />Under PA law, referendums are initiated by legislative bodies. In this case, it was those Commissioners, who, in 2016, made the unanimous decision to put the referendum on the ballot. <br /><br />There's no "tyranny of the majority" going on as it related to Wehr's Dam. SWT Commissioners (and the voters) simply followed all appropriate laws and procedures. <br /><br />Anyone trying to dramatize or ridicule the citizen efforts and referendum vote to save Wehr's Dam is just a sore loser -- probably someone in cahoots with the notorious Dam-Demonizer Tori Morgan and her neighbor/designated attack dog Mad Matty Mobilio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-77900502426820015842021-04-14T11:47:55.592-04:002021-04-14T11:47:55.592-04:00"cant wait to move out of South Whitehall. Ev..."cant wait to move out of South Whitehall. Everything has gone to shit, the administration, elected officials, the police have attitudes unless your a friend of Morgan<br /><br />Why so many people employed in south whitehall after retiring from the city of allentown<br /><br />do we want south whitehall to be allentown? no! south whit3ehall became a first class township in order to not be annexed by the city, but the current old guard and incompetent township manager has surrounded themselves with lackeys and malcontents skimming a second municipal pension ,after collecting for the city.<br /><br />disgusting what is happening<br /><br />Why is known jaindl attorney Zator the solicitor for the Township, why is known jiandl engineer scott pidcock (who never veer shows up at a meeting anymore) the township engineer?<br /><br />let the fox into the hen house!<br /><br />I bet they dont go back to in person meetings with full public participation, bet they make it a lottery to get in....whata joke this township has become"<br /><br />I'd love to help you pack the truck, maybe you can move to a place that does not participate in the best school system in the region, that has the best level of municipal services and has the highest quality of life in Lehigh Valley. As far as your comment about "turning SWT into Allentown", you should be glad to have those employees who voluntarily left Allentown for the security and outstanding work environment at a first class Township. I'll bet Allentown really misses those competent professionals. One could argue that you are the joke, I'd love to live in South Whitehall. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-17483284632148270022021-04-14T11:34:32.973-04:002021-04-14T11:34:32.973-04:00In answer to your question, Brad Osborne, "no...In answer to your question, Brad Osborne, "no" I don't agree that because people voted to keep a dam that is terrible for the watershed, that justifies it.<br /><br />As our founders noted, there can be a tyranny of the majority. Not that the small number of voters who voted for this can be considered a majority.<br /><br />What is more bucolic that a stream in its natural state? If you take the position that this "history" of this dam justifies keeping it, we might as well pause all development everywhere, because of the "history" of everything. In counterpoint, progress marches on, and in this case, removing the dam would be a small step forward for the local wildlife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-73837890334043292952021-04-13T20:51:44.080-04:002021-04-13T20:51:44.080-04:00the natural state after removing the dam will dest...the natural state after removing the dam will destroy the covered bridge. also create snakes and insects next tot he precious child soccer fields! oh no!!!<br /><br />if the Township manager of Operations ofr whatever his title is Randy Cope didnt have a family connection trying hard to remove the dam it would be shocking if the township tried to remove it at all<br /><br />also why hasnt the wildlands conservancy tried to removes kerns dam off of kernsvilel road in north whitehall, that dam is probably way more unsafe then the one on south whitehall.....<br /><br />north whitehall loves it and told the wildlands to go pound sand<br /><br />wouldnt it be prudent for the fish if all the dams were removed, why doenst the wildlands remove the north whitehall dam and say look this wehrs dam is the last dam to be removed, you are killing the fish that we want to die on a naturally dried out rvier bed in july and august!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-6133554020643126452021-04-13T20:47:00.407-04:002021-04-13T20:47:00.407-04:00cant wait to move out of South Whitehall. Everythi...cant wait to move out of South Whitehall. Everything has gone to shit, the administration, elected officials, the police have attitudes unless your a friend of Morgan<br /><br />Why so many people employed in south whitehall after retiring from the city of allentown<br /><br />do we want south whitehall to be allentown? no! south whit3ehall became a first class township in order to not be annexed by the city, but the current old guard and incompetent township manager has surrounded themselves with lackeys and malcontents skimming a second municipal pension ,after collecting for the city.<br /><br />disgusting what is happening<br /><br />Why is known jaindl attorney Zator the solicitor for the Township, why is known jiandl engineer scott pidcock (who never veer shows up at a meeting anymore) the township engineer?<br /><br />let the fox into the hen house!<br /><br />I bet they dont go back to in person meetings with full public participation, bet they make it a lottery to get in....whata joke this township has become<br /><br />#MorganHasGottaGo<br />#DrainTheSouthWhitehallSwampAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com