tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post116394751643849506..comments2024-03-29T07:55:45.977-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: NorCo's Thursday Night at the Fights: Dertinger and AngleBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164155864156518962006-11-21T19:37:00.000-05:002006-11-21T19:37:00.000-05:00Sounds like C&Y needs to yank Little Georgie out o...Sounds like C&Y needs to yank Little Georgie out of his home & put him in foster care or protective custody. Given his age & his cyberbehavior, he's obviously in a nasty home situation there with mom & pop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164082300264202132006-11-20T23:11:00.000-05:002006-11-20T23:11:00.000-05:00LVDem, I'm going to go out now and smash my head a...LVDem, I'm going to go out now and smash my head again.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164079629668745812006-11-20T22:27:00.000-05:002006-11-20T22:27:00.000-05:00this is just very odd... and I'm not drinking toni...this is just very odd... and I'm not drinking tonigh.LVDemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359661408192860813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164077746758157192006-11-20T21:55:00.000-05:002006-11-20T21:55:00.000-05:00OK, I spelled sociological wrong, but I'm a little...OK, I spelled sociological wrong, but I'm a little kid, give me a break, JESUS!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164077625930977022006-11-20T21:53:00.000-05:002006-11-20T21:53:00.000-05:00My dad crunches numbers for a living, he's no farm...My dad crunches numbers for a living, he's no farmer hick that just crawled out from under a corn stalk out here in eastern PA. He's an accountant, not just some hay seed lawyer. He doesn't believe in uncivil behavior! You can tell LVDem to piss off because I don't care, I am what I am, I am confused though... Dad! Why the F do I have a greek and an italian name? I don't even know my nationality, but my dad is right, Bernie O'Hare, you suck! And I challenge you to a duel, I am sick of your bullying tactics. And I want everyone to know that my father, Papa George Speros Maniatty, Jr. is not a bully, and will standup to O'Hare. F O'Hare, who does he think he is anyway, he lives in Nazareth, PA... ooooooh wow, all those cows scare me. Let me tell you something, I'm from Allentown, OK!!! We have murders and real socialogical problems here, I'm not some hick from Nazareth, PA eh hyuck hyuck... I will kick your ass OHare. I stand up for the little guys like alan jennings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164068042479477512006-11-20T19:14:00.000-05:002006-11-20T19:14:00.000-05:00Little George, I think LVDem just gave you a time ...Little George, I think LVDem just gave you a time out.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164066923773701042006-11-20T18:55:00.000-05:002006-11-20T18:55:00.000-05:00LVDem, First, Thanks for the nice words. Man, I'm ...LVDem, <BR/><BR/>First, Thanks for the nice words. Man, I'm going to have to be nice to you now for a few days. <BR/><BR/>Second, George Maniatty thinks I'm a bully. That's fine with me. In fact that's a step up. Usually, I'm threatened with libel. Then my previous drinking history and law license suspensions are discussed. But seriously, when are people going to attack me for being a male pole dancer. Nobody wants to talk about that, for some reason. <BR/>I'm appearing at Wilson's old Mirage on Thanksgiving Day if anyone is interested. I'll ask management to save a front row seat for George. <BR/><BR/>Third, regarding Angle, you've asked me "to acknowledge for a moment that Angle specializes in one thing: pissing people off." I think you're right and freely acknowledge it. In fact, Angle would acknowledge it, too. Once he sees he is getting to someone, he pours it on. I've told him that many times. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's not. He told me a few times that he thinks there should be an open season on bloggers. But I didn't let his joke get to me. At least I think he was joking. <BR/><BR/>I'll go one step further. Ron is not the best person at working with other people. And even I know you have to try to do that if you expect to get anything done.<BR/><BR/>And as I mentioned, there's no doubt in my mind that Ron instigated Dertinger's explosion. Dertinger's mistake was to let it get to him, make a scene, and nearly deck the guy. He got that way at the debate in Pen Argyl, too. He has a petty side. I think Angle has his number, and was pushing the button. <BR/><BR/>I like Dertinger. He's always been gracious to me. I damn near voted for him. And I think he has potential. But the way he acted demonstrates he's just not ready. I think he could be ready someday. But now a proven winner is expressing interest, and Angle doesn't have her number. <BR/><BR/>I disagree with pretty much everything else you say about Ron. I love the guy, and think we need him. But I'll save that argument for another day.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164066220499840942006-11-20T18:43:00.000-05:002006-11-20T18:43:00.000-05:00I'm younger than 22! Don't you see the little in ...I'm younger than 22! Don't you see the little in front of my name, I'm a little kid. My father, papa George, left his computer on, so here I am hacking away at that jerk, Bernie, he's the one that needs to get a life, I heard from my dad he barely knows how to wipe his own butt, Wahh!! I pick fights, Wahhhh!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164062112687732592006-11-20T17:35:00.000-05:002006-11-20T17:35:00.000-05:00Wahhh! Bernie yelled at Alan Jennings, Wahhhh!!! ...Wahhh! Bernie yelled at Alan Jennings, Wahhhh!!! Bernie is picking a fight with Dertinger, Wahhhh! I need my diaper changed, Wahhh!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164061860011266152006-11-20T17:31:00.000-05:002006-11-20T17:31:00.000-05:00I will step into this.Bernie is a lot of things, b...I will step into this.<BR/><BR/>Bernie is a lot of things, but I haven't seen a bully. Bullies have an element of power over their victims. What power does Bernie have? Lawsuits? That's the last realm of opportunity to those who have lost all other power... political, social or otherwise. If holding people accountable is bullying, consider a lot of people bullies.<BR/><BR/>Having interacted with Alan Jennings in the past, I'm not surprised at the behavior that Bernie described. Likewise, having seen bernie in action, I'm not surprised that he said a few things for which he apologized. <BR/><BR/>But Bernie, I will hold you to something. You constantly defend Angle from the statements that I make about him. He is terrible for government for one significant reason: he is incapable of reasonable conversation. He seeks to push buttons just so that he can say he did something. Dertinger was not wise to fall into the trap, but I'd like for you to acknowledge for a moment that Angle specializes in one thing: pissing people off. I don't care if he talks about good government, sunshine and the like, the bottom line is that government is made of men and women and requires relationships and an element of trust. If an individual can't conduct himself in their company, then he doesn't belong in gov't. I'll say that about anybody who is incapable of building relationship and trust. Angle, in my mind, is the worst personality for gov't.LVDemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07359661408192860813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164056500055628102006-11-20T16:01:00.000-05:002006-11-20T16:01:00.000-05:00Alright, I'm stepping out of this one.Alright, I'm stepping out of this one.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16156821106883484918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164055926610976732006-11-20T15:52:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:52:00.000-05:00As my good Friend Ronald Wilson reagan would say, ...As my good Friend Ronald Wilson reagan would say, "There you go again!"addictedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11110289650559232806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164055765253172102006-11-20T15:49:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:49:00.000-05:00Rich Wilkins, Bernie is a bully.End of story.Rich Wilkins, Bernie is a bully.<BR/><BR/>End of story.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869794999685416186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164055675144471112006-11-20T15:47:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:47:00.000-05:00I saw the altercation face to face with Ron Angle ...I saw the altercation face to face with Ron Angle and Charles Dertinger.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869794999685416186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164054640071550132006-11-20T15:30:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:30:00.000-05:00George,Don't hate me 'cause you can't be me. The o...George,<BR/><BR/>Don't hate me 'cause you can't be me. <BR/><BR/>The only person I saw doing any bullying on Thursday was your candidate, Charles Dertinger. Maybe you missed that when you were shaking hands with Alan Jennings. He lost his cool, acted the fool, and you're his tool. Fortunately for Charles, the press did not pick up on it. If it had, he could kiss his congressional aspirations goodbye.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164054311830441802006-11-20T15:25:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:25:00.000-05:00George,It's Rich, calm down, Bernie's not trying t...George,<BR/><BR/>It's Rich, calm down, Bernie's not trying to bully you, I think you two have a misunderstanding. I had one of these a few days ago with someone far more senior than I, so I'd know.<BR/><BR/>Bernie,<BR/><BR/>You saw the altercation, not me, so I defer to what you saw I guess. I can't say anything the different, nor have I talked to Charles to know what happened. Seems out of character for him.<BR/>Dent and McHale probably would not get so heated, but as I think you imply, they were more seasoned when they made their runs. Could he use more seasoning too? Who couldn't?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16156821106883484918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164053608727007352006-11-20T15:13:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:13:00.000-05:00I will stand up to Bernie O'Hare and stop his bull...I will stand up to Bernie O'Hare and stop his bullying tactics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869794999685416186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164053481910397412006-11-20T15:11:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:11:00.000-05:00Rising Sun,You're right. There's no doubt in my mi...Rising Sun,<BR/><BR/>You're right. There's no doubt in my mind that Angle instigated the whole thing. But Dertinger's reaction was not a case of unscripted and in your face honesty. He simply lost control. And it wasn't over some important issue. It was over who gets credit for what. I couldn't see Dent or McHale acting that way. And Dertinger was physically menacing. He very nearly decked Angle. <BR/><BR/>As far as George is concerned, I don't hold anything against anyone who takes an interest in government. But I think there's something else going on there.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164053437795090592006-11-20T15:10:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:10:00.000-05:00Rising Sun, thanks for your comments.George Speros...Rising Sun, thanks for your comments.<BR/><BR/>George Speros Maniatty, Jr.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869794999685416186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164051177421431582006-11-20T14:32:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:32:00.000-05:00George was a super volunteer for us at the Derting...George was a super volunteer for us at the Dertinger campaign Bernie and is still an Allentown resident. He just happens to care about good government in both counties and attends meetings for his own information. I wish more citizens did that, although I myself am not found at a ton of meetings.<BR/><BR/>As for Charles battling Ron, that's nothing new, and Ron brings out the worst in everyone. One REPUBLICAN county councilman once told me he felt blessed to see them in the minority so that Ron would be Wayne's problem to control.<BR/><BR/>With that man's history of ignorant remarks, Charles should have shown some fire and gotten in his face, as he did. It's that kind of unscripted response that shows people you care about more than your next run for office. So much for the "faithless politician" of the Morning Call?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16156821106883484918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164049837963883302006-11-20T14:10:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:10:00.000-05:00Is Angle that fat bloated rich guy that shoplifts ...Is Angle that fat bloated rich guy that shoplifts socks in NJ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164049738100187652006-11-20T14:08:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:08:00.000-05:00Tights? I just had the thought of Ron Angle in Spa...Tights? I just had the thought of Ron Angle in Spandex and began to choke!addictedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11110289650559232806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164045033787418962006-11-20T12:50:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:50:00.000-05:00I've checked George Speros Maniatty, Jr and his pr...I've checked George Speros Maniatty, Jr and his previous postings to Morning Call's Cumminity Forum, a truly scary place. On November 1, he posted a commment making clear he was part of the Dertinger campaign. He askes readers to <A HREF="http://www.mcallcommunity.com/forums/?usersearch/1926" REL="nofollow">"give us a call at (610) 797-6014"</A>. So I did. That number has been changed. It now rings directly to the Dertinger residence. <BR/><BR/>Now I understand why I'm so uncivil.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164042793232293982006-11-20T12:13:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:13:00.000-05:00Only if I get to see George in tights.Only if I get to see George in tights.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-1164042594399538702006-11-20T12:09:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:09:00.000-05:00In the future, I'll be a good little boy and keep ...In the future, I'll be a good little boy and keep my mouth shut. I keep forgetting we second class citizens are there to be seen, not heard. And pardon me for insisting on an answer to my question.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.com