tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post7578985969062544573..comments2024-03-18T21:53:54.073-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: U Mt Bethel Tired of Angle's ShitBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-7746693860804051972013-12-12T16:13:00.019-05:002013-12-12T16:13:00.019-05:003:37, actually, it's true. Heinz does have a ...3:37, actually, it's true. Heinz does have a rep for hiring illegals. <br /><br />As for shit, it certainly does stink. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-73973215331402274972013-12-12T15:53:12.464-05:002013-12-12T15:53:12.464-05:00So here at UMBT we went from BS to just str8 Sh-t....So here at UMBT we went from BS to just str8 Sh-t......when will the sh_t hit the fan,.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-16930703464953672842013-12-12T15:37:32.724-05:002013-12-12T15:37:32.724-05:00Environmental law is there to regulate environment...Environmental law is there to regulate environmentalists.<br /><br />This sludge stinks! It's evil stuff. If you like it, spray yourself with it and keep it the heck away from us.<br /><br />Bernie, you piece was funny, except for the remark about illegals. That was offensive and you should know.<br /><br />You're a better man than that, even if you are a bottom-feeding blogger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-20893968563575495682013-12-11T18:23:12.330-05:002013-12-11T18:23:12.330-05:00It was fully vetted in court. In fact, it was full...It was fully vetted in court. In fact, it was fully vetted in a case in which Upper Mount Bethel was a party, and attempted to do things far less intrusive than proposed here. Moreover, there is an entire line of cases that prevent townships from interfering with agriculture. Pennsylvania takes that very seriously. Talk to Ron Karasek. He'll tell you he has a loser.<br /><br />Were you there?<br /><br />It was wild. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-32031686086456248912013-12-11T18:18:29.073-05:002013-12-11T18:18:29.073-05:00Bernie:
I believe that you and others are mis-int...Bernie:<br /><br />I believe that you and others are mis-interpreting the result in the Packer Township case. Essentially, the only actual decided law in that case was that a municipality has no authority to restrict the right of the AG to sue them under ACRE. All summary motions were eventually dismissed. The Township then repealed it's ordinance and the case was dismissed under the ripeness doctrine. Therefore, nothing was actually decided by that action. Even the AG herself noted that, of the 5 (now 6) cases involving her challenge to a local ordinance under ACRE, NONE have ever gone to a conclusion on the key issue of whether or not the dumping of sludge is a "normal agricultural activity". That is not to say I believe the law and regulations favor a local ordinance in UMBT, but an argument that this issue has been fully vetted in the courts is not entirely accurate. Stay tuned, this one will probably be interesting.AMOrlandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479629009925718765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-69693244298812613892013-12-11T15:25:06.963-05:002013-12-11T15:25:06.963-05:00Ron seems to bring the best out of an angry crowd ...Ron seems to bring the best out of an angry crowd and this was no exception. Pure vitriol..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54437307140349739532013-12-11T15:21:38.300-05:002013-12-11T15:21:38.300-05:00Nice picture of Rick Fisher before they strung him...Nice picture of Rick Fisher before they strung him up in the parking lot. Poor guy..he was only telling the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-44138328369555260062013-12-11T12:50:07.820-05:002013-12-11T12:50:07.820-05:00The state law is ACRE.
http://caselaw.findlaw.co...The state law is ACRE. <br /><br />http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-commonwealth-court/1606017.htmlBernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-65518504944323143132013-12-11T12:45:15.163-05:002013-12-11T12:45:15.163-05:00Boh 1126. What State law? Beneficial reuse?
Chri...Boh 1126. What State law? Beneficial reuse?<br /><br />Christies dredge material from NJ is dumped here in the LV.....Palmerston and Whitehall to name a few. In some cases, it as manifested as contaminated sand. If it were going to a landfill in NJ, a municipal tipping fee would apply. However, not here in Pa. Why?<br /><br />The dredging is ultimately paid for by FEMA. Lehigh County was not good enough for FEMA aid after Sandy, however, we are good enough for NJ dredge waste.<br /><br />Never mind global warming and rising oceans. FEMA and NJDEP isbbringnthe beach to the LV.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-6322394764469843032013-12-10T21:45:24.978-05:002013-12-10T21:45:24.978-05:00Ron Angle has always been a shitty guy. This conf...Ron Angle has always been a shitty guy. This confirms it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-60959839267100050032013-12-10T20:29:02.525-05:002013-12-10T20:29:02.525-05:00It didn't infringe so much on individual right...It didn't infringe so much on individual rights, but as it stands it is unconstitutional. It takes on the whole "corporate personhood" aspect of the constitution, as ammended in the 1870's to support the railroads. I liked the fact that it is geared towards allowing a community to govern itself, but there are some things in the ordinance that I just don't think America will ever be ready for....such ascribing rights to an ecosystem. I read the ordinance until I was blue in the face, but in the end I just didn't think it was right for our community. It may serve well as a short term stop gap measure, but I'm not certain that a solicitor would give it the thumbs up....leaving the UMBT Board in the same position of personal exposure. cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-69965274890725475622013-12-10T18:13:40.977-05:002013-12-10T18:13:40.977-05:00C, Your solicitor is a good one, and I don't t...C, Your solicitor is a good one, and I don't think he would let you vote on something that would be doomed in court. A community bill of rights has a nice defiant ring to it,but it seems to be used to actually impair individual rights in most instances. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-55470686549757904912013-12-10T18:04:50.111-05:002013-12-10T18:04:50.111-05:00Our ordinance in Lehigh Township has never been ch...Our ordinance in Lehigh Township has never been challenged. Our solicitor did however give us the green light. I'm not so certain that the community rights bill is the right way to go. The idealist in me loved it though. cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-78186235963239314012013-12-10T17:42:21.450-05:002013-12-10T17:42:21.450-05:00As I said, I am unaware of any decision that has a...As I said, I am unaware of any decision that has actually upheld a challenged community bill of rights. But I did some cursory research in response to your comment. In July, the Commonwealth Court invalidated a community bill of rights almost identical to the draft floating around in Upper Mount Bethel. In fact, it was the AG who sued Packer Township. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-65403323497856362552013-12-10T17:12:18.800-05:002013-12-10T17:12:18.800-05:00You can't regulate sludge farming per se, you ...You can't regulate sludge farming per se, you can however regulate certain components of sludge farming when it is not done safely, properly and well. You can regulate those things that the state does not. You are right, the problem does lie with the state. I went to Harrisburg to speak with the AG's office about it back in the day....cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-40556242549757269602013-12-10T15:44:17.034-05:002013-12-10T15:44:17.034-05:00C, I am unaware of any local regulation of sludge ...C, I am unaware of any local regulation of sludge farming that has withstood judicial scrutiny. Am I wrong? If not, then the remedy lies with the state.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-22537075523394041032013-12-10T15:31:36.931-05:002013-12-10T15:31:36.931-05:00Yet he ran from Ton Severson like a scalded cat!Yet he ran from Ton Severson like a scalded cat!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-7788044885061953542013-12-10T14:42:49.387-05:002013-12-10T14:42:49.387-05:00Why not craft an ordinance that controls those thi...Why not craft an ordinance that controls those things that the state does not? It has been done successfully ;-). cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-12136125402410070632013-12-10T11:32:32.700-05:002013-12-10T11:32:32.700-05:00" his wallet is bigger than anybody else in t...<em>" his wallet is bigger than anybody else in the township."</em><br /><br />This has nothing to do with wallet size, but state law. Don Miles points out that the state only tests for a few substances. Why not pressure the state to tighten up on that? It is a state problem. <br /><br />I will say this. Ron is one of the few people I know who is willing to take on a room full of people who are ready to string him up. When I got there, the PSP had just left. They were worried that someone might get too rowdy, but everyone was fine. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-5497362584158090022013-12-10T11:26:42.836-05:002013-12-10T11:26:42.836-05:00" would be a little concerned, if I were an e...<em>" would be a little concerned, if I were an elected UMBT Supervisor, as you describe going against the advise of a solicitor and case law, of no longer having municipal protection and exposing themselves to potential personal liability. "</em><br /><br />Ron did point that out to them last night. He added he would be represented by the AG, who would be defending a state law. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-38567975597709127392013-12-10T11:24:21.368-05:002013-12-10T11:24:21.368-05:00"Although I'll bet this post practically ...<em>"Although I'll bet this post practically wrote itself."</em><br /><br />It did. I love when it works out that way. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-58035297540542212992013-12-10T10:50:13.271-05:002013-12-10T10:50:13.271-05:00I love it when elements of your Catholic upbringin...I love it when elements of your Catholic upbringing show up in your writings; that comment containing reference to Barabbas was hilarious ! Whethervainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05709776231229905223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54969185322537092492013-12-10T10:17:12.995-05:002013-12-10T10:17:12.995-05:00Appeasement is just the worst and it usually is ju...Appeasement is just the worst and it usually is just a bandaid that falls off eventually. It solves nothing. UMBT doesn't have a legal leg to stand on yet they will spend precious tax payer money on an already lost legal cause. It accomplishes nothing. Regime change needed as these people have no clue about governance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-15750274709695006412013-12-10T09:58:53.737-05:002013-12-10T09:58:53.737-05:00For unfettered analysis:
www.ratemypoo.com
You e...For unfettered analysis:<br /><br />www.ratemypoo.com<br /><br />You expel. They decide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-8207361543199771852013-12-10T09:50:42.116-05:002013-12-10T09:50:42.116-05:00Governing at times becomes a popularity contest an...Governing at times becomes a popularity contest and that's not proper or truly ethical. Going against advise of your own atty. is dicey at best. UMBT is not your normal political situation though. As much as I dislike Ron..he's got the law on his side and his wallet is bigger than anybody else in the township. That board is truly conflicted at this point and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. A mess..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com