tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post5206203641374085500..comments2024-03-29T07:55:45.977-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: Saucon Park Open to Bethlehem Residents Only, Starting Labor Day WeekendBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-88545364594586110862015-09-04T08:56:59.210-04:002015-09-04T08:56:59.210-04:00I think people who do not live in close proximity ...I think people who do not live in close proximity to the park, nor have been to the park, when there has been this recent and increasing mass chaos of summer weekend visitors(and overcrowding), are confusing and incorrectly equating this as a racial issue/decision. This is NOT about the color of their skin, nor economic status, nor "those Jersey people" invading our parks. Its about low class, self-centered, disrepectful people who come to the park, and DESTROY an asset and burdening the City and its taxpayers holding the repair bill---not the color of their skin. While NOT ALL of the Saucon "non-Pennsylvania" visitors exhibit disrespectful behavior at, or towards the park, many show blatant disregard to the posted no parking signs, the residents that live adjacent to the park, and towards the very facility they drive to. The problem is that too many of the visitors illegally park on the grass or next to the concrete barriers, where it clearly says no parking (which then makes for lovely dirt patches), or move barriers to make their own makeshift parking spots(which block the driving isles), as well park on the side residential streets blocking resident driveways(and then yell at the residents when they are asked not to block the driveway), block the traffic lanes (and then violently yell at those driving by who interrupt their party on the street), throw trash everywhere (adding cost for clean up and potential hazard to kids playing near broken glass), start making out while on the hoods of the cars (try responding to your toddler in the car when they ask"daddy/mommy, what are they doing on the car?").By the end of the weekend day, you can drive up and down the park and its perimeter and the side residential streets and see EXACTLY where the visitors parked and walked, and 'picnic-ed', because there is a trail of soiled baby diapers, empty beer cans, water bottles and plastic bags, and condoms resembling their footprints of their activities. They get out of their cars when they park (on the residential side street), and get changed outside, pee outside by the car, or make-out in public instead of waiting to get home. When you try and drive by to get to the side street, their cars are blocking the narrow isles, and they yell at the driver for wanting to drive by, and interrupt their gathering, which they have moved partially onto the street (as if THEY own the place). This blatant disrespectful behavior of a couple of dozens of the visitors, has ruined it for the rest of the parks visitors (who actually respect the park, and its residents.) The color of their skin is a NON-issue to Bethlehem. It is the way in which they treat the park, the significant cost to repair their vandalism and blatant disrespect for the park and the residents (and NOT the color of their skin) that Bethlehem has FINALLY decided to take action. I challenge anyone to drive by on the weekend and see first hand for themselves what it looks like, and then imagine being in the shoes of the City footing the bill with limited resources they have, or being in the shoes of a resident who is being impacted because they are adjacent to the park!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-31704685502649405032015-09-03T23:52:03.302-04:002015-09-03T23:52:03.302-04:00If Jim Gregory hadn't been robbed of the mayor...If Jim Gregory hadn't been robbed of the mayoral seat by devious Bob Donchezes these poor wetbaxks would be free to sip modelo in peace under the trees of saucon park<br />Greggy was a swarthy lothario who appealed to Latino voters because he can dance and sing(somewhat) now that he gets out in the fall booby d will have to vacate office because Greggy knows how to get his coup onPorcinePrincessnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-90827268604248963272015-09-03T16:15:26.043-04:002015-09-03T16:15:26.043-04:004:01, and on public assistance4:01, and on public assistanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-75754725768257536822015-09-03T16:01:48.374-04:002015-09-03T16:01:48.374-04:00@3:36: hispanics (most) don't give a shit nor ...@3:36: hispanics (most) don't give a shit nor do they vote on election day. If you did, we'd all be speaking spanish...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-15059171576909744932015-09-03T15:36:39.075-04:002015-09-03T15:36:39.075-04:00I am Hispanic and have always respected the park. ...I am Hispanic and have always respected the park. When I go there during the week with my children I have them pick up litter and put it in trash cans. I have family that comes to visit once or twice a month from Queens NY and we enjoy cooking out at the park on week-ends. They are coming for Labor day and now am I to tell them that my family can go to the park and they have to stay at my place. I would say not. Looks like I can't enjoy a park in my own city. Donchez is quick to say he grew up on the southside but does he care about the people that live here now. Remember how he keeps turning his back on the southside come next election. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-48341071985088259842015-09-03T15:15:48.978-04:002015-09-03T15:15:48.978-04:001:52,
but at least honest1:52,<br /><br />but at least honestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-75407440310994220042015-09-03T14:42:34.474-04:002015-09-03T14:42:34.474-04:00No booze and no smoking would help keep the locust...No booze and no smoking would help keep the locusts out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-37999284169831883452015-09-03T13:52:55.409-04:002015-09-03T13:52:55.409-04:00Your culture is apparently to trash other people&#...Your culture is apparently to trash other people's cultures and show no respect to them. Like I said, this issue brings out bigots and trolls.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-85821529878653090902015-09-03T13:46:49.228-04:002015-09-03T13:46:49.228-04:00these people's culture is to trash everything ...these people's culture is to trash everything they can and to show exactly no respect to real humansAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-63303715661545581982015-09-03T13:30:28.995-04:002015-09-03T13:30:28.995-04:00I hope my comment at 9:17 was not taken to have an...I hope my comment at 9:17 was not taken to have any racial undertones. The point being that there are folks willing to spend the money to drive past parks which:<br /><br />1. Don't allow smoking<br />2. Don't allow booze<br />3. Don't let you jump off dams. Or put yourself in a position to sue the muni when you break your neck.<br />4. Have a staff onhand to enforce these rules.<br /><br />Methinks that the parks on this side of the river will now adopt and enforce these rules in essence turning our parks into the same ones they passed on their way here. It is not about the "bucolic" setting. It is about gettin my drink on and my smoke on then jumping into the water hazard. Bottom line. I can have more fun in PA since the Fun Police didn't follow me across state lines.<br /><br />Moreover this may be a cultural issue. How do other cultures view natural resources? <br /><br />Discuss Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-19400325163937651082015-09-03T12:34:43.429-04:002015-09-03T12:34:43.429-04:00There are going to be trolls like you who will try...There are going to be trolls like you who will try to make this a racial issue, and there will be racists who slam different groups. Neither of you sign your names. There is a compelling state interest in preserving parks against those who would destroy them. We spend precious tax dollars to preserve natural resources. I'd prefer to see the park closed when it is at capacity, regardless whether they are residents or nonresidents. But I see nothing wrong with limiting park se to residents as a stop gap measure to deal with what is really an emergency. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-37768665066306921072015-09-03T11:34:58.724-04:002015-09-03T11:34:58.724-04:00"There is nothing about this decision aimed a..."There is nothing about this decision aimed at doing anything other than preserving a precious asset."<br /><br />Reads like George Wallace protecting precious Alabama public schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-75855999126040714602015-09-03T11:33:28.388-04:002015-09-03T11:33:28.388-04:00The racial undertones here and on other media outl...The racial undertones here and on other media outlets tell the true story!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-16922123276841443502015-09-03T11:16:41.298-04:002015-09-03T11:16:41.298-04:00We've become a society in which cowards lack t...We've become a society in which cowards lack the personal responsibility to stand behind their words. There is nothing about this decision aimed at doing anything other than preserving a precious asset. Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-55039715451642038312015-09-03T10:56:49.617-04:002015-09-03T10:56:49.617-04:00Take it one step further and alternate day's o...Take it one step further and alternate day's of visitors by ethnicity / skin color. Is this the society we've become?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-58650829447873588352015-09-03T09:17:00.249-04:002015-09-03T09:17:00.249-04:00People are like water as they will seek the path o...People are like water as they will seek the path of least resistance. <br />The problem lies in the fact that their actions will turn our parks into the parks they drove by to get here. We will be left with sterile sidewalks with a nice view and an entrance fee. Look but don't touch.<br />The meek shall inherit the parks. . . Yeah if there’s anything left by the time I’m done with it!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-84884598482226853922015-09-03T08:54:26.147-04:002015-09-03T08:54:26.147-04:00Fire at willFire at willAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-7222620848018599212015-09-03T08:29:58.970-04:002015-09-03T08:29:58.970-04:00@7:04,
How about if they send them to your house?@7:04,<br />How about if they send them to your house?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-74953921979266022452015-09-03T07:07:03.934-04:002015-09-03T07:07:03.934-04:008:12,
You are dead wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole p...8:12,<br /><br />You are dead wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole problem revolves around filthy hispanic and latinos being exactly what they are - less than human Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-20496680172380978892015-09-03T07:04:12.648-04:002015-09-03T07:04:12.648-04:00Wow! Maybe Bethlehem needs to take Saucon Park of...Wow! Maybe Bethlehem needs to take Saucon Park off the PA Visitors Guide webpage then. Here people in metropolitan areas work hard all week and found something beautiful to enjoy close by and Bethlehem is taking it away from them. Does Saucon Park receive state funds? county funds? federal funds? Does the state stock the creek with fish? What if people from outside Bethlehem and PA residents want to enjoy the park. Hmm....sounds like some people's rights are being violated since this Bethlehem park I'm sure is not self funded by Bethlehem. Maybe the race in November should cancel having it at Saucon Park since Bethlehem doesn't want outsiders. Don't see Bethlehem banning outsiders at Musikfest even though there are drunks, litter and crime,etc... Maybe just have a number limit of guests at the park. Then they should have a flyer and offer the guests another place to go after the limit is filled. It'd be a shame after traveling a long distance to have to return home. Some people may get mad about this. A flyer offering other choices to visitors with directions after limit is filled may be appreciated. Nockamixon for example, Hugh Moore Park, the Lehigh Valley and surrounding areas are beautiful, let's share. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-35982777757012950412015-09-03T07:03:02.436-04:002015-09-03T07:03:02.436-04:00Did the puppet master JM tell booby d he could do ...Did the puppet master JM tell booby d he could do this? RC, AKA "little napoleon" is getting his jollies here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-14974136567828922712015-09-03T06:59:20.732-04:002015-09-03T06:59:20.732-04:006:20,
Like staking?6:20,<br /><br />Like staking?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-54901380029361049882015-09-03T06:06:42.232-04:002015-09-03T06:06:42.232-04:00It is an attempt to prevent the several buses a da...It is an attempt to prevent the several buses a day that have decended upon the park throughout the weekend. The park can't handle the unexpected numbers. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-27529317955752035912015-09-03T05:59:34.432-04:002015-09-03T05:59:34.432-04:00Bethlehem does what it wants and begs for what it ...Bethlehem does what it wants and begs for what it needs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-8152575190507460692015-09-03T05:38:28.818-04:002015-09-03T05:38:28.818-04:00It is a disgusting display of ethnic "pride&q...It is a disgusting display of ethnic "pride" in Saucon Park. Stoped going years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com