tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post3839152453041139031..comments2024-03-29T06:50:30.056-04:00Comments on Lehigh Valley Ramblings: Gracedale Initiative: The Case Against Government by Mob RuleBernie O'Harehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-23017047035255387962011-01-28T05:30:27.471-05:002011-01-28T05:30:27.471-05:00Bernie O'Hare said...
Wayne does not mind bein...Bernie O'Hare said...<br />Wayne does not mind being attacked,...<br />----------------------------<br /><br />What I don't mind are people displaying the very best they have to offer in the way of sparkling conversation and intellect. I saw the two you removed and was so impressed with them I was content to leave them unanswered.<br /><br />I don't blame you for deleting them though... nobody likes it when somebody leaves poop lying on their property.Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419749813954782484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-18926911965979991182011-01-27T23:19:46.242-05:002011-01-27T23:19:46.242-05:00Wayne does not mind being attacked, but I will not...Wayne does not mind being attacked, but I will not tolerate personal attacks against a reader who himself is not an elected official. Also, stick to the topic.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-53600393404542648472011-01-27T21:36:36.715-05:002011-01-27T21:36:36.715-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-72568049409232655352011-01-27T21:30:44.158-05:002011-01-27T21:30:44.158-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-83364303898201237962011-01-27T18:18:40.304-05:002011-01-27T18:18:40.304-05:00BTW... I'm not a union man, far from it.
Read...BTW... I'm not a union man, far from it.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/northampton-county/index.ssf/2010/08/northampton_county_council_vot.html#comments" rel="nofollow">Read the comments HERE</a>Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419749813954782484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-58323547633694189992011-01-27T18:16:36.472-05:002011-01-27T18:16:36.472-05:00Bill Coker said...
"These legacy costs are dr...Bill Coker said...<br />"These legacy costs are driving taxes to ridiculous and unsupportable rates."<br />---------------------------<br /><br />My point was that it takes somebody in management or administration to go along and approve pay rates and benefit packages --- doesn't it?<br /><br />Either management is stupid or cowardly or both to approve something that will destroy them or their successors down the road.<br /><br />Every time management concedes to union demands the union tells the rank & file, "See, they had the money".<br /><br />Management sends the wrong signal. They should learn to say no before they dig themselves into a hole.<br /><br />BTW... I'm not a union man, far from it.Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419749813954782484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-88587066486578233872011-01-26T22:51:17.005-05:002011-01-26T22:51:17.005-05:00Wayne,
You are stating the union is looking out f...Wayne,<br /><br />You are stating the union is looking out for the workers? What a surprise! They are not for the corporations or the taxpayer as the case may be?<br /><br />Do you think this is why unions, except in the public sector, are pretty much dead? Ask IBEW or any construction union guy how he's doing.<br /><br />The pendulum swings both ways. It swung the unions way for too long, now it is going the other way.<br /><br />These legacy costs are driving taxes to ridiculous and unsupportable rates. Police, fire, teachers, government workers pensions and benefits have to be the next cut. Society can't afford them much longer as the system exists.Bill Cokernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-82657899262363019882011-01-26T22:24:30.249-05:002011-01-26T22:24:30.249-05:00Very true Wayne, Even while complaining about Gra...Very true Wayne, Even while complaining about Gracedale and the need to "fix" the problem, the Stoffa Administration negotiated 7-9% pay increase with social workers in the other part of Human Services.<br /><br />One can only wonder about the competence or sincerity that mix message sends to all.<br /><br />FaustusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-31258292119240658522011-01-26T21:39:20.478-05:002011-01-26T21:39:20.478-05:00Monkey Momma said...
I blame unions for this whole...Monkey Momma said...<br />I blame unions for this whole mess, not the County or activist bloggers.<br />---------------------------------<br /><br />Actually the unions were only looking out for the workers when they negotiated the pay and benefits that government can't afford now. I really can't find fault with that.<br /><br />The fault lies with the administration or employer who didn't have enough foresight to see how they would be unable to finance this down the road. They only saw the advantage of being non-confrontational and getting along today at the negotiating table and that bought themselves trouble later. Pass the problem down to the next administration or generation, just like all government debt.Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02419749813954782484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-62038149444727720092011-01-26T20:28:23.527-05:002011-01-26T20:28:23.527-05:00"Congratulations to Bernie, Ron, and the educ..."Congratulations to Bernie, Ron, and the educated among us."<br /><br />The inane dribble that is American Idol is on as I write. My young daughter enjoys it so I endure. One thing about this show I see is the fact some of the entrants are deluded by parents and or loved ones to fancy themselves talented singers. this when in fact they are terrible. <br /><br />See the above quote by some Patriot<br /><br />BTW patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. So says one of the founding fathers you like to quote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-34100286611196188912011-01-26T20:23:30.844-05:002011-01-26T20:23:30.844-05:00Again with the fake Rev
Oy VeyAgain with the fake Rev<br />Oy VeyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-15860681335659078902011-01-26T20:12:52.750-05:002011-01-26T20:12:52.750-05:00A legislator owes his constituents his best judgme...A legislator owes his constituents his best judgment. He is not elected to stick his finger in the wind and see which way the wind is blowing. If you don't like what his is doing, you are free to replace him. <br /><br />The Court of Common Pleas is in fact a safeguard against the tyranny of a whimsical court of public opinion, in which demagogues who pretend they are "Reverends" and other nasty people atempt government by mob rule.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-47988425542798452782011-01-26T20:07:32.838-05:002011-01-26T20:07:32.838-05:00Sometimes the Court of Public Opinion is more powe...Sometimes the Court of Public Opinion is more powerful than the Court of Common Pleas. Those of you who disagree with Angle and Stoffa, remember it when it comes election time. That's really all you can do at this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-17084066723107430912011-01-26T19:54:40.940-05:002011-01-26T19:54:40.940-05:00The idea of the "20%" tax hike was a num...The idea of the "20%" tax hike was a number bought by the Administration for $18,000. Stoffa and Angle have wanted to dump Gracedale for years, that is a fact, all can agree. Yes, Stoffa did; he had Angle, quoting him as far back as 2003, just check it out.<br /><br />So the problem is the level of "trust" in this government, just isn't there. If it was people might have believed some of the things being said. <br /><br />Once some knowledgeable folks cast light on the questionable "20%" tax hike number, the new strategy shifted to, this is in the best interest of the "residents" or as some of the ignorant still call them, "patients".<br /><br />The concern over the crammed four to a room issue was an Angle/<br />Stoffa production, never uttered by residents or families. People with absolutely no expertise in such issues, declared Gracedale was barbaric and inhumane. Bernie brayed on about star ratings until he was shown how they are done and the better ratings Gracedale received than the "model" agency in Dauphin County ever got. Then Bernie declared the raings don't matter, who cares about Dauphin, he meant most private facilities are better. Which way that wind blowing now Ron, just tell me what to say.<br /><br />The anti-democracy crowd wants to sell Gracedale because they want to sell Gracedale. Fair enough, why play games. Why hide behind tarnished accounting and mystic medical science. The fact is the supporters of the sale would sell all of Human Service if they could. Mr. Stoffa tried to sell part of it during his Lehigh County days but the Sate stopped him.<br /><br />It is an interesting lesson in civics to read how the Tea bag folk don't like the "they" in government when "they" don't get what "they" want, and then demand direct participation. Yet when leaders do their bidding and another group embraces direct participation the "They" become the evil "them".<br /><br />Damn the bolsheviks until you get the nice Dasha then its, damn those other peasants not we bolsheviks.<br /><br />Intellectual dishonesty taken to the extreme by those who claim to champion participatory government.<br /><br />The use of the law firm hired to sell the "sell", used by the election commission to write his opinion. Even conservative judges shake their heads on that one. So much fear from Stoffa, Angle and O'Hare on the idea of people getting a say. Interesting civics lesson indeed.<br /><br />Bray on good folk bray on!<br /><br />Douglas from Hellertown who will remain just that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-50008735802794866272011-01-26T18:44:43.496-05:002011-01-26T18:44:43.496-05:00Isn't it just amazing to read these comments. ...Isn't it just amazing to read these comments. On the one hand we have informed writers who rely on the facts of the matter and come to a conclusion and present it in an proper way. On the other hand we have individuals who spew bile against those who know what they are talking about pertaining to the matter. <br />Congratulations to Bernie, Ron, and the educated among us.The Battle Cry of Freedomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00375663013875506308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-40507808083762455952011-01-26T18:06:29.919-05:002011-01-26T18:06:29.919-05:00AS I SEE IT THE UNION NEEDS TO GO LOOK AT THE WHOL...AS I SEE IT THE UNION NEEDS TO GO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING WHAT HAVE THEY DONE FOR US IF HECTOR AND JUSTICE WOULD HAVE BARRINGED RHEN WE WOULDNT BE WERE WE ARE , THE UNION IS GREEDY BOTTOM LINE.YES AND WE WANT TO TRY TO SAVE IN THE MEAN TIME THERE IS ALOT OF OVERTIME GIVEN EVERYDAY TO THE SAME PEOPLE WHY IS THIS. YOU CANT TELL ME THAT IT WONT BE GOOD IF SOLD YOU DONT NO THAT LOOK WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND WHO CAN AFFORD A TAX HIKE............Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-22764015628076445672011-01-26T17:44:18.964-05:002011-01-26T17:44:18.964-05:00The powers to be have derailed the real power --- ...The powers to be have derailed the real power --- the election process. Why are they so afraid of letting the public speak? Something is fishy here and its not the voters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-47260747862386821732011-01-26T17:24:49.386-05:002011-01-26T17:24:49.386-05:00It appears that this can now be defined as a "...It appears that this can now be defined as a "personnal agenda" as was denounced as such early on by chief cook and blogger washer Bernie, in regards to Angle filing in court. Isn't that a conflict of interest? I know he is a private citizen and I fully expected Bernie to file I just didn't think Angle would tie his name to the suit. Bears looking into.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-45291194409309299542011-01-26T15:46:12.970-05:002011-01-26T15:46:12.970-05:00anonymous 2:22...
The petitioner cannot fill in a...anonymous 2:22...<br /><br />The petitioner cannot fill in anything relative to what the signees provide...If they fill in the addresses for the signers, the signature is invalid...<br /><br />DUH...but you knew that...don't throw stones at Bernie without looking in the mirror...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-86042118153367069732011-01-26T15:44:24.190-05:002011-01-26T15:44:24.190-05:00what goes around comes aroundwhat goes around comes aroundAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-53328170008589513982011-01-26T14:22:45.446-05:002011-01-26T14:22:45.446-05:00@anonymous 10:16 MAKE ME LAUGH!!!! Keep believin...@anonymous 10:16 MAKE ME LAUGH!!!! Keep believing the lies Bernie is saying. He tells only half the truth and spins things to make these petitions sound like they are soooooo fradulent! The bottom line is over 23,000 signatures received. When he says that 50 some had the same writing.....he didn't tell you that all the signatures were different, address was written in the same handwriting. Obvious that the petition circulator simply wrote down the address as they were getting signatures in their neighborhood. What a twist he put on that one, making it sound like someone forged signatures! Bernie, some day you will pay for all your lies. Like the famous saying "payback is a bitch" can't wait till you get yours!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-62865723555648663892011-01-26T13:53:35.892-05:002011-01-26T13:53:35.892-05:00"It wouldn't bother you if your employer ..."It wouldn't bother you if your employer came to you and told you we are letting you go because we found a "good" person willing to do your job for less?<br /><br />I hope that comment comes back and bites you where the sun don't shine."<br /><br />Been there, done that. got the tee-shirt. It's called the free market and yes, I'll agree that it can be harsh. I didn't make the rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-46773773255984935952011-01-26T13:35:10.585-05:002011-01-26T13:35:10.585-05:00"Yesterday afternoon, Houston called to tell ...<em>"Yesterday afternoon, Houston called to tell me that she was just presented with a wonderful opportunity and is giving up on The Butterfly House."</em><br /><br />Actually, it might cost $20 MM. No one knows. And when Gracedale was a cash cow, it's true that the County took money and spent it elsewhere. But all this does is demonstrate why the best thing for Gracedale would be its sale. <br /><br />County government has different priorities and needs than a privately-run nursing home. It will skimp there, even when times are good. <br /><br />And the personnel costs are astronomical and beyond the norm for nursing homes because of the union benefits being paid. That's simply the truth. <br /><br />The primary concerns here are (1) quality of care; and (2) indigents. Gracedale will be sold only if a private home can meet the concerns about the residents. What happens to the unions should not be part of that discussion. It should be about the residents, right?Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-89814757969039770572011-01-26T13:28:17.989-05:002011-01-26T13:28:17.989-05:00I have reached the conclusion that comments from M...I have reached the conclusion that comments from MM are no longer welcome here. It has nothing to do with his position on Gracedale, which is contrary to mine. It is because conversations with him tend to deteriorate into petty squabbles that diminish all of us. I refuse to play his game.Bernie O'Harehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756311150988957401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9299655.post-33855997883555643862011-01-26T13:08:03.838-05:002011-01-26T13:08:03.838-05:00Saw BO and RA on TV 69
I actually tried to adjust ...Saw BO and RA on TV 69<br />I actually tried to adjust the aspect of my TV bacause Bernie looked so bloated. It wasn't necessary.<br /> Bernie you better hop back on your bicycle, you don't look good. I invite you to join me at the Jacobsburg Park bike trails when the weather breaks It will help you melt some of those pounds off. I suffer from being overweight as well so don't take this as a barb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com